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🎵 Every day I hear a different story
People sayin' that you’re no good for me
Saw your lover with another
And she’s making a fool of you, oh

🎵 If you love me baby, you'd deny it
But you laugh and tell me I should try it
Tell me I’m a baby, and I don't understand

Go Wham!

@Worldgonecrazy

I’m stepping away from the crazy mask threads but would like a sensible comment to a query I have. According to JVT the most common places for spreading covid are hospitals, care homes and in close indoor settings (inter family transmission).

So why are those who are wearing masks “to protect others” not wearing them at all times at home when in the same room as family? Or are they? If HVT is right then I should be wearing a mask when in the same room as my mum. (That would not go down well!)

Supermarkets, the tube, and the high street are much lower risk of transmission.

Like all things covid, it doesn’t make sense.

Anyway, I hope everyone stays cool today. Remember to check on any vulnerable neighbours. This heat is a real killer and probably contributing more to the black alerts than covid, but that doesn’t suit the narrative. My best friend was a prisoner indoors during heatwaves due to a lung disease, sadly she died a few years back.

Anyway, the CTs say climate change is going to be the reason behind the next global lockdown. When I think how extreme the weather is becoming I find it quite scary.

And another reason why the mask fuore really raises my hackles.

Most people draw the line at wearing a mask in informal social occasions because ultimately they are recognising the trade off between "safety" and human connections. They are more willing to sacrifice casual connections in public places, but they matter too, they bond wider society, but in most settings the masksare of limited efficacy (especially of the dubious fit and quality of most of them...)

As much as I loathe the whole face covering thing, I have taken ventilation and making the most of outdoor opportunities far more seriously. Even if I could reliably cover my face for more than 45s, it only has a purpose if I did have Covid, and my chances of exposure are pretty bloody low with my family's lifestyle.
So when I'm walking around in a public place with a bare face, my chances of being a publuc health hazard (at least for that anyway) are pretty bloody low.

I genuinely think it's because they so visibly cover the mouth.

It's also herd mentality. And that if 'research' came out that showed, for example...

@Worldgonecrazy "My fear is the U.K. will start treating flu like covid!"

You are not alone. Sherelle Jacobs in The Telegraph writes today:
"Major experts now warn that we face lockdown this winter - not due to Covid, but flu.
"Some evolutionary biologists even argue that we cannot risk any flu whatsoever..."

This is an opinion piece and it's noticeable that she does not indicate who these "major experts" and "evoluntionary biologists" are. Nor their political affiliations which the case of Susan Michie suggests might be worth knowing.

@justasking111, thanks for the Singapore article.

My attention was caught by the last line
"History has shown that every pandemic will run its course”.

Quite.

[quote amicissimma]@justasking111, thanks for the Singapore article.

My attention was caught by the last line
"History has shown that every pandemic will run its course”.

Quite.[/quote]
Even the Black Death!

Ah, there you all are! It’s good to see you.

I saw the footage of the young people clubbing in Leeds and it made my heart sing. So good to see them so happy. The commenters were a bunch of miseries, mind.

In other news - we are at a play barn / petting farm and my children are very excited to see an axolotl because it is in Minecraft. How do you pronounce axolotl?

There are signs about masks but the lady at the entrance said it was up to us. So very few masks. Hot though

Just googled axolotl and it is pronounced ax- a - lotl (this is how I would spell it, they used those funny dictionary pronunciation spelling guides which I don't understand!) Have fun at the petting farm

I think it's ax-er-low-tul but I'm not 100% on that

Well it's started different rules in Wales re masks. Abuse because of this directed at staff. But it's not just masks, or running out of a beer, some visitors are as folk said so angry and rude all round. Now these maybe visitors who were not normally UK holidaymakers who are missing their overseas break.

Well please shout at Boris it's not the Welsh or Scots that are running this green, amber shit show

OH and sign-in mandatory too sigh which upset some campers

On the other hand in Thailand whose government think vaccines too expensive they're doing a Brazilian it seems

thethaiger.com/coronavirus/worst-case-scenario-covid-infections-could-hit-32000-bases-a-day-in-3-months

@justasking111

OH and sign-in mandatory too sigh which upset some campers

We went there earlier this season. To be fair, they did the standard hoop jumping then generally let you get on with things.

It does tend to attract some DIY festival types who like to get tanked up in the sun and some of them would have no qualms about shooting their mouths off.
I love the site, but could do without some of the campers that go.

What was great was that it was very easy to spend a few days enjoying the location and going out walking in lovely places and swerving the general beauocracy of any organised attraction.

Hello lovely people. I'm so glad these threads are still going. I haven't posted in a while but these got me through some cry dark days and it's lovely to read through the latest chats and updates.

Here's a question and please forgive me if this has been discussed/ mooted before...

Do we have any stats on the risk factor of covid versus cancer/heart disease etc? Eg you've a 1 in 1000 chance of getting xxx or dying from xxxx versus covid?

Personal risk seems to have gone out of the window for so many people I know, including husband which is making life very hard. I'd love some solid stats to help.

I have seen a covid risk calculator but it was a while ago. Even my elderly parents, one of whom is very cev was about a 1% risk of death IF she caught symptomatic covid 19.

I think it’s roughly about 450 to 500 deaths a day from cancer and the same with heart disease.

Definitely a much greater risk from those than covid for everyone, but of course the illnesses associated with them can increase risk of covid complications.

I think I would definitely prefer covid to either heart disease or cancer !

@amicissimma Christmas parties are a thing of the past then.

I’d take Covid over the mental illnesses I see at my work, any day. Never mind long Covid, these are people with really desperate lives from when they are young.

My risk in the Covid calculator was 0.003 or something even though I’m old and fat and was in a Covid hotspot

I only know about axolotls because there was a one in the 2019 AQA biology GCSE paper that I think might have been dying through lack of oxygen. Traumatised a whole year 11 cohort. Lots of funny memes though.

First they came for...............

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806517/Journalists-face-14-years-prison-embarrassing-Government-proposed-law-change.html

@MercyBooth maybe this will finally spur the journalists into doing their job and bringing the government’s actions in to the light,

[quote MercyBooth]First they came for...............

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806517/Journalists-face-14-years-prison-embarrassing-Government-proposed-law-change.html[/quote]
It just gets worse and worse 🙈

I think I'm having a denial week and knuckling down with my final few days of non-child freedom.

Currently looks like our travel plans are viable... but in 10 days a lot can change...
There's also considering what we do to minimise risk of exposure prior to travel in terms of exposing family plus not ending up in an isolation situation. Will keep things mainly outdoors, although I have anyway. Plus there's not rushing to book stuff when we're back in case there is an issue... that's half the school holidays being impacted!

I want to go, but there's no excitement in it. No certainty that it will happen until the final moment. We're going because of family rather than the excitement of the destination. Plus it's much more restricted when we are there than it is anyway.
I miss looking forwards to things that are booked more than a few days ahead!

@Worldgonecrazy Hope so but it will also prove that they are only bothered when it affects them. So Niemoller quite apt here.