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Wayne Couzens has entered a guilty plea to Sarah Everard's murder

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RickiTarr · 09/07/2021 11:07

Thank goodness for that.

At least it spares the family a full trial.

I hope the sentence is a whole life tariff.

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FreeBritnee · 09/07/2021 12:18

Well thankfully he was woefully bad at covering his tracks in any way, shape or form. Another psycho off the streets.

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/07/2021 12:26

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

Yes, there probably is more to come out.

I still find I'm so angry about it all. Right now, in Scotland (not the MET but still), a woman has had the full force of the law thrown at her, they threatened her kids with social services, and is going to be hauled up in court later this month. For tweets. Tweets standing up for women's sex based rights.

And what happened about this indecent exposure? Pretty much fuck all. HE should have been investigated, HE should have had the rule book thrown at him, HE should have been watched. But no. Free to go. Free to go ahead and commit this awful crime. VAWG and they don't give a shit until it's too late.

More will probably come out. Lessons will be learned. And I'm fed up of it. I'm fed up of "lessons learned". As far as I'm concerned heads need to roll and he needs throwing in a dark pit to rot.

I totally agree. Meanwhile in Canada women are being abused for not wanting a naked penis in a woman’s only space.

One rule for men, especially police officers, and another for women.

I hope they throw away the key with this one. He should never be released. He’s incredibly dangerous.

Naaaaah · 09/07/2021 12:26

He was apparently using prostitutes regularly. He is a wank stain on humanity and I hope he gets what he deserves in prison. This case makes my blood run cold.

Maybeitsme5 · 09/07/2021 12:28

The fact he mentioned using sex workers in his fictitious account of why he did it is quite telling of his motivation, coupled with the indecent exposure previously.

Sex obsessed maniac. Hideous. I hope he fucking rots.

hayley037 · 09/07/2021 12:33

@Maybeitsme5

The fact he mentioned using sex workers in his fictitious account of why he did it is quite telling of his motivation, coupled with the indecent exposure previously.

Sex obsessed maniac. Hideous. I hope he fucking rots.

Exactly my thoughts, no doubt he was abusive and a bully too. Probably into paraphilia and that kind of stuff.

Makes me feel ill thinking about what she must have gone through.

malteasergeezer · 09/07/2021 12:34

His wife was arrested at one point. I wonder if she was in on it or else agreed to give him an alibi?

I feel truly sorry for his children. They will have to move, change their names etc. Imagine growing up and knowing your own dad did that. Sad.

Maybeitsme5 · 09/07/2021 12:35

How do these pathetic specimens manage to hold down a job and family life when their brains are so sex addled they behave in this way?

I don't understand it, how the desire for sex can lead anybody to stoop to those levels of depravity.

Pathetic, grotesque and weak little man he is.

MotionActivatedDog · 09/07/2021 12:35

When this story first made the news, while Sarah was still a missing person, I predicted it would turn out to be a man who

a) had a history of abusing vulnerable women (ie; paying “sex workers”- hate that term)

b) had done the same or similar before

And

c) had planned it.

And I’m no genius. These guys always follow the same script.
It’s so fucking predictable.

The powers that be need to wake the hell up, recognise all these patterns and start listening when women report worrying behaviours.

malteasergeezer · 09/07/2021 12:37

I think (hope) that the level of premeditation plus his position of trust will incur a whole life tariff. Mind you, even Ian Huntley didn't get one of those.

VikingVolva · 09/07/2021 12:38

And what happened about this indecent exposure?

Been reporting that the police actions following the complaint are still under investigation.

The issue is almost certainly that such crimes are not treated as urgent, so get a longer response time. I expect the individual officers will be cleared - because it's the whole policy that's wrong

Investigation still underway into the probationary copper who shared the meme

VikingVolva · 09/07/2021 12:41

@malteasergeezer

His wife was arrested at one point. I wonder if she was in on it or else agreed to give him an alibi?

I feel truly sorry for his children. They will have to move, change their names etc. Imagine growing up and knowing your own dad did that. Sad.

Charges dropped (though I can find reports only on one local news outlet, the main stream media haven't updated since the last time her bail,was extended)

She was arrested on suspicion of aiding an offender, not of any part in the actual offence. If there was the slightest hint that she had indeed known what he was planning to do, or had actively covered up something that she knew that he had done, then the initial charge would have been different.

DinosaurDiana · 09/07/2021 12:43

Motion - I was talking about rape and murder. The other has been widely reported.

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RickiTarr · 09/07/2021 12:46

@malteasergeezer

His wife was arrested at one point. I wonder if she was in on it or else agreed to give him an alibi?

I feel truly sorry for his children. They will have to move, change their names etc. Imagine growing up and knowing your own dad did that. Sad.

She has the option of taking them back to her home country. Can’t remember where that was, but Europe. Perhaps they’ll decide to brazen it out, though. Getting shot of him might have been the end of a nightmare for her, too. We don’t know what he was like at home. He could well have been abusive. She didn’t face any charges herself.
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VikingVolva · 09/07/2021 12:46

@x2boys

Did they know each other or was it completely random?
Random

The investigation looked for any prior connection between them, but found none. I know you can't prove a negative, but it seems unlikely. Especially given the detail in The Guardian account that he had driven round the area before spotting Sarah

MotionActivatedDog · 09/07/2021 12:49

@DinosaurDiana

Motion - I was talking about rape and murder. The other has been widely reported.
I know the other incident has been widely reported. That’s how we know about it Confused
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RickiTarr · 09/07/2021 12:51

@malteasergeezer

I think (hope) that the level of premeditation plus his position of trust will incur a whole life tariff. Mind you, even Ian Huntley didn't get one of those.
Yes that’s what I’m hoping. Police officer (with special duties) has to be seen as more a position of trust and responsibility than even a school employee, surely? Not that what Huntley did, wasn’t horrendous enough.

Just the presumption that he used the warrant card to help abduct her…It is such a manipulation of trust.

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EL8888 · 09/07/2021 12:52

@MotionActivatedDog same, my fiancé and l thought that from fairly early on. Depressingly predictable

Maybeitsme5 · 09/07/2021 12:53

I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was abusive toward his family, either.

I imagine once the shock had dissipated his poor wife will have had alot to tell the police about his character.

I remember when her identity was publicised and people were attacking her on her facebook account, speculating that she was involved in the cover up because of her profession.

EL8888 · 09/07/2021 12:54

@RickiTarr here is hoping, my understanding is a position of trust worsens your sentence. I had a nasty suspicion he used his warrant card to get her in the car.

MissChanandlerBong90 · 09/07/2021 12:54

Her poor poor family. At least they are spared a trial but it doesn’t bring her back or change the horror of what has happened.

And he’ll go to prison, but it doesn’t change anything. Women will still continue to be murdered by men for no other reason than the fact they’re female.

I’m just so ANGRY about it. A woman couldn’t walk home along a busy street without a man deciding to kill her just because she’s female. The victim-blaming, both subtle and unsubtle. How can a woman possibly be responsible in any way for her death at the hands of a serving Metropolitan police officer? How is the answer to this crime - where it seems highly likely that he abused his status as a police officer in order to commit the crime - to put more undercover police officers in bars and clubs? What steps can be taken to ensure women are safe from errant police officers, given the very significant power they have and the huge trust the public places in them? Why did he still have his police warrant card available to abuse if he had committed an offence three days before?

Sorry for that incoherent rant but it’s just horrific.

x2boys · 09/07/2021 13:02

@MissChanandlerBong90

Her poor poor family. At least they are spared a trial but it doesn’t bring her back or change the horror of what has happened.

And he’ll go to prison, but it doesn’t change anything. Women will still continue to be murdered by men for no other reason than the fact they’re female.

I’m just so ANGRY about it. A woman couldn’t walk home along a busy street without a man deciding to kill her just because she’s female. The victim-blaming, both subtle and unsubtle. How can a woman possibly be responsible in any way for her death at the hands of a serving Metropolitan police officer? How is the answer to this crime - where it seems highly likely that he abused his status as a police officer in order to commit the crime - to put more undercover police officers in bars and clubs? What steps can be taken to ensure women are safe from errant police officers, given the very significant power they have and the huge trust the public places in them? Why did he still have his police warrant card available to abuse if he had committed an offence three days before?

Sorry for that incoherent rant but it’s just horrific.

I don't know the circumstances had he actually been charged with exposing himself. at that point? Had they established it was him or did this come out after he was arrested for murder?
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RickiTarr · 09/07/2021 13:05

I don't know the circumstances had he actually been charged with exposing himself. at that point?
Had they established it was him or did this come out after he was arrested for murder?

I think it’s that Twitter thread that @hayley037 linked that says it’s been established that the police had enough information to link it to him at the time, but failed to. They finally made the connection at some point after he fell under suspicion for SE’s abduction. He hasn’t yet been charged with that crime but the possibility remains that he could be.

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MotionActivatedDog · 09/07/2021 13:08

From the way it’s phrased it sounds like the police had the information they needed to identify the culprit in the indecent exposure but hadn’t yet done it by the time he abducted Sarah Everard and that his identification as suspect in Sarah’s abduction brought to light the link between him and the indecent exposure.

MotionActivatedDog · 09/07/2021 13:09

Xpost with @RickiTarr

MissChanandlerBong90 · 09/07/2021 13:09

@x2boys

No, I don’t think he’d been charged. But I think the police have accepted they had the information to know it was him.

In most jobs if you were suspected of gross misconduct you’d be suspended on full pay pending an investigation.

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