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Should DH move abroad for job alone or should we join him? Dilemma.

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insertrandomusernamehere · 22/06/2021 23:48

DH has been offered a job abroad in a Middle Eastern country to start in a few weeks and he’s accepted. As happy as I am for him; I’m absolutely terrified of what life is going to be like alone, raising our very young DC (18m and almost 3 year old). Both DC are at nursery PT and will be doing longer hours from September when I’d planned to return to work. This job offer has completely thrown me. It means changing our lives entirely- the children having to settle at a new nursery and adjust to a new way of life is panicking me the most. Or, maybe I’m projecting and am worrying about how I’ll cope in an environment/culture that is materialistic/superficial/misogynistic?

My plans for September also included taking driving lessons and becoming a bit more independent with a car for my sake and the DC. Husband is desperate for us to move but I’m not sure what to do. Should I throw caution to the wind, move us all out with him (pack our lives into boxes by the 2nd of July) and see how life works out for us all? Or, should I wait it out and let my husband settle there first, pass probation and get the ‘lay of the land’ before we join him? Or, should I stay put with the DC and we can take turns visiting one another every half term/end of term? The latter would mean less disruption for DC (my absolute priority) since they’ll still have their nursery space and key workers and other children they’re familiar with and would also mean I can focus on myself a bit too- I’m itching to get back to work. I’m scared I won’t cope alone but I won’t know until I try it, will I?

One of my biggest worries is that I’ve had horrendous PND since the birth of my older DC and I’ve needed my husband’s support to get things done and look after the children when I’ve not had the energy to get out of bed. I’m scared, left to my own devices, I might crumble. Massively. Having said that, he’ll be working silly hours in his new job so it’s not as if he’ll be able to help me out there BUT nannies/house help is cheap I’m the ME so I’d be able to buy in help? But, then I’ll worry they’re out of the British system/way of doing things and how that will negatively impact them when we come back? Argh, as you can tell, I’m struggling with all this massively. Can someone shed any light on living abroad with young children? Or even guide me on what I should do next? I’m so, so lost right now.

Apologies for the garbled post. I’ve been trying to sleep for ages but sleep just isn’t coming right now because of my anxiety around this impending move.

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MareofBeasttown · 23/06/2021 09:52

@Clymene I am sure there are cases but as another poster said, mostly husbands don't want the kids because they will be working the very long hours that expat jobs demand. And OP has already said he is unlikely to want custody because he can't handle the kids.

I agree about the imbalance in most expat marriages and yes, generally spouses HAVE to get on and cope. OP doesn't seem to be getting enough of a package to make this worthwhile. In my case, we did. Also during Covid, travel back and forth will be difficult.

ChargingBuck · 23/06/2021 09:55

I've got a really bad feeling about what he's doing here.

me too @Graphista

If she takes the DC, once OP's feet hit the ME soil, even if it's 'just' for this month in a hotel (why?!!) she is utterly dependent on DH's goodwill. She would be totally exposed & vulnerable.

Spandrel · 23/06/2021 09:55

[quote MareofBeasttown]@Clymene I am sure there are cases but as another poster said, mostly husbands don't want the kids because they will be working the very long hours that expat jobs demand. And OP has already said he is unlikely to want custody because he can't handle the kids.

I agree about the imbalance in most expat marriages and yes, generally spouses HAVE to get on and cope. OP doesn't seem to be getting enough of a package to make this worthwhile. In my case, we did. Also during Covid, travel back and forth will be difficult.[/quote]
But he doesn’t have to want the kids! He just has to say he does, and to know that this can be used to keep the OP compliant.

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Bagamoyo1 · 23/06/2021 10:03

No way would I uproot myself and my kids for a shit marriage. Recipe for disaster.

MareofBeasttown · 23/06/2021 10:05

OP did ask on what it's like to bring up kids abroad, not just about her husband kidnapping the kids.

KeepingTrack · 23/06/2021 10:06

I’m sorry but if my DH had decided to accept a job abroad wo talking to me first and be sure I was 100% on board, I would assume that
1- he doesn’t care about me as a person, my wishes and my needs
2- he doesn’t care about the family
3- he is one of those who thinks that being a man = head if the household = his word/way goes ALL THE TIME.

I couldn’t live with that.

Willlowbanks · 23/06/2021 10:08

Stay. If your marriage is wobbly it would be very unwise to uproot your life like this.

MareofBeasttown · 23/06/2021 10:08

@KeepingTrack

I’m sorry but if my DH had decided to accept a job abroad wo talking to me first and be sure I was 100% on board, I would assume that 1- he doesn’t care about me as a person, my wishes and my needs 2- he doesn’t care about the family 3- he is one of those who thinks that being a man = head if the household = his word/way goes ALL THE TIME.

I couldn’t live with that.

True. Moving out by July 2nd seems quite ridiculous.
Womendohavevaginasnick · 23/06/2021 10:09

I wouldn't move to the middle East, I have friends who did. No way would I want to bring my daughter's up around such sexism, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, and general intolerance of differences as she described. I don't know what it's like for racism so I can't comment on that, though she did mention white women were treat far better than local women.
I certainly couldn't hold my tongue with such discrimination everywhere, I'd probably and up in prison.
I'd not even go for a holiday. Would be like time travel where societal norms are concerned.
I know it's not perfect here but I'd rather be here fighting for equal pay than there fighting to be acknowledged as a person rather than property.

AryaStarkWolf · 23/06/2021 10:10

@insertrandomusernamehere

Our marriage is shit atm already so probably wouldn't survive the long distance which is why DH is probably insisting we move with him. We're currently doing couples counselling with mixed results. He wouldn't want custody of the DH if things went wrong- he knows how demanding being the primary parent is and he's not willing to sacrifice his wants and needs for the children. I'm scared I'd get there and be left just to get on with things.
If your marriage is shit right now, I certainly wouldn't be upping sticks and moving to the Middle east with him where you would have no other support (family & friends) plus you're throwing away your progress to Independence. Not a chance in hell
KeepingTrack · 23/06/2021 10:10

Sorry pressed enter too soon.

All of which is exactly the way he is behaving - shit marriage, wanting to put his needs before anyone else etc….

Don’t move. You’ll end up stuck in a foreign country with him having even more ammunition’s to stop you from coming back to the U.K./stopping the dcs from moving back etc…
Plus of course, you might well be much worse off with that salary than you are in the U.K. (has he looked at that?!?).

Time for you to start building your own life wo him.
Thé whether you marriage survives or not, you won’t end up in the shit just because you’ve done what worked for him rather than what worked for you too.

Ourlady · 23/06/2021 10:14

Hell no. I wouldn't go under your present circumstances even if he was going to make mega bucks. It's a crazy idea especially with young children.

Sisisimone · 23/06/2021 10:19

When you say 2k more than his job here I hope you mean a week. 2k a month more won't even hit the sides in the UAE. 2k a year is just a fucking joke to move for. The job offer sounds shit tbh and if you marriage is shit I'm wondering if its more like an easy getaway for your DH.

SapatSea · 23/06/2021 10:21

Don't do it. Let him get settled and then see what you both think. Also, he says he doesn't want custody of the DC if you split but that could change , especially if he can buy in 24/7 help.

Use the money you currently spend on counselling to buy in some home help here in the UK. You could have a cleaner. If you have a spare room you could get an au pair to help you out a bit, especially with nursery pickups so you don't stress at work (when you return) about getting back on time.

You may find that being on your own with the DC and looking after them according to your own instincts rather than having H around and also trying to please him will be a lot less stressful than life at present.

UmamiMammy · 23/06/2021 10:23

Don't move!!! A shakey marriage, history of pnd and a not great salary are all reasons not to go.
My father worked in the ME when we were growing up and we visited a lot. No way would I live there. My dad had a very high salary and flights and housing were included.
Go back to work, learn to drive and build a life for you and the children.

Sceptre86 · 23/06/2021 10:23

I don't get the point of your post. Why on earth would you consider moving abroad, especially an area you are prejudiced against with a dh you don't particularly like or have a good relationship with? Do you really need randomers on the Internet to tell you this is a bad idea? Maybe grow a backbone and speak up for yourself, ditch the dh and create a better life for yourself and your kids! Unless you think this is a marriage worth saving which would be really difficult to do living separately.

MrsExpo · 23/06/2021 10:23

From what you've said about your marriage I most certainly would not be going out there with two young children. It sounds to me like he's grabbing an opportunity to get away! And if your relationship falls apart you might struggle to get the children back to the UK.

Get those driving lessons and stay put in the UK to see how it goes.

noideawhatusernametochoose · 23/06/2021 10:24

@Sisisimone

When you say 2k more than his job here I hope you mean a week. 2k a month more won't even hit the sides in the UAE. 2k a year is just a fucking joke to move for. The job offer sounds shit tbh and if you marriage is shit I'm wondering if its more like an easy getaway for your DH.
I agree about the easy getaway, it does sound like it.

OP I hope you're seriously reconsidering any thought of going.

Ninkanink · 23/06/2021 10:29

Absolutely do not go.

Franklyfrost · 23/06/2021 10:29

Don’t follow him. Go back to work. Stay settled, independent and at home. You would be so vulnerable in a country with no regards for women, mental health or SEN, in a relationship that’s in the rocks with two children to look after and no income.

RedMarauder · 23/06/2021 10:31

@ChargingBuck

I've got a really bad feeling about what he's doing here.

me too @Graphista

If she takes the DC, once OP's feet hit the ME soil, even if it's 'just' for this month in a hotel (why?!!) she is utterly dependent on DH's goodwill. She would be totally exposed & vulnerable.

Exactly.

OP your husband wants out of the marriage.

I know plenty of couples, including one of my sisters, were one partner got a job aboard. Each person ensured they had talked to their partner about moving before they searched for the job. They didn't make it an ultimate about going as a result they are still together.

ArrrMeHearties · 23/06/2021 10:33

Do not go out of the country. Stay here where you and your dc are settled. If your dh wants to go he can go on his own

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/06/2021 10:33

I was a trailing spouse and I saw a few marriages apart. It was hard to up sticks and start afresh.

There is no way I would do this in your shoes. Please stay in the U.K. There is too much at stake.

Franklyfrost · 23/06/2021 10:34

Also, your husband has accepted the job regardless of what you and the kids would do? That’s not a relationship worth destroying your life for.

somethingischasingme · 23/06/2021 10:34

Don't go. X

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