I think this must be one of the most random things I’ve puzzled on

[Soubriquet]

Picked up a chicken yesterday (dead not alive), and suddenly thought how undignified it looked without it having the string tying its legs together

I mean...it’s a dead chicken. Not really dignified anyway but having its legs like that is just the cherry on the top for the poor chook

Yup. English is just complete random

Someone pointed out that when you buy say 12 chicken wings that's 6 chickens you've got there

Do you think? I often wonder whether that's the case or whether there's 12 (or somewhere in between) as I can't imagine they keep all the bits together when they're processed.

@FreezerBird

Someone pointed out that when you buy say 12 chicken wings that's 6 chickens you've got there

Do you think? I often wonder whether that's the case or whether there's 12 (or somewhere in between) as I can't imagine they keep all the bits together when they're processed.

Yes, I don't know, maybe we don't want to know. I don't eat chicken's underarms in any case they're horrible same as thighs and drumsticks. Breast is the only chicken body part I can do and that might not be for much longer.

It's had its guts stuck up its arse in a plastic bag, I think not having its legs tied together is the least of its indignity

Turkeys…
What is a female turkey called?
What does a female turkey even look like?
Why don’t we see turkey eggs for sale?

Also, back to prawns, I don't like eating them because there's so many little obliterated souls on my plate. Whereas with chicken there's just one (or a quarter of one)

Turkey eggs...you could probably get them from a turkey farmer

They must be a bit unpalatable compared to chicken and duck eggs or they would be sold more commonly

@LittleMissnotLittleMrs

Turkeys… What is a female turkey called? What does a female turkey even look like? Why don’t we see turkey eggs for sale?

I asked this once, at a farm, and was told that turkeys don't often lay, so there is no market for turkey eggs 🤷🏻‍♀️

@LittleMissnotLittleMrs

Turkeys… What is a female turkey called? What does a female turkey even look like? Why don’t we see turkey eggs for sale?

Google said

The answer turns out to be a wide combination of factors, all of which together add up to turkey producers pretty much deciding not to bother entering the egg market. For one thing, turkeys lay eggs much less frequently than other birds; a chicken or a duck lays about one egg per day, but a turkey lays at most about two per week. Turkeys are also more expensive to raise in a factory setting, requiring much more space and food than a chicken.

Even worse, turkeys are slow to start laying. “Turkeys have a longer life cycle so they need to get to about 7 months before they are able to produce laying eggs,” says Kimmon Williams of the National Turkey Federation. Chickens only have to reach about 5 months – may not seem like much, but given that turkeys are also more expensive to house and feed, those extra few months can be costly.

Because of the cost of production and scarcity, turkey eggs tend to be quite a bit more expensive, usually around $3/egg – about as much as two dozen commodity chicken eggs. That means that a fertilized egg is much more valuable than an egg for human consumption; it just makes more sense to breed more turkeys than to sell their eggs.

Become veggie, you'll never look back. Carrots won't give you these kind of problems.

Unless you watch Aldi adverts at Christmas @Lostthings

See, I look at a field of cows and just think about lovely fillet steak. Or a field of gambolling lambs, and just think of a fabulous leg of lamb, studded with garlic and rosemary.

I love vegetables, and eat a lot of vegetarian, sometimes vegan, meals - but I'll never stop wanting to eat meat/poultry.

Fortunately I live in a country where we have whole industries devoted to butchering and processing the animals, so I don't have to.

@LostThings

Become veggie, you'll never look back. Carrots won't give you these kind of problems.

Yes!

You’re eating Kevin! How could you?

Plus, apparently, that cut grass you smell when you cut the grass. That’s the grass screaming out a warning to other grass that they need to be careful as something is hurting them

And don't get me started on what happens when you behead a daisy or pierce their body to interlink their dying corpses to make daisy chains

Chickens don't like having their legs tied up together, they like to be free to run and peck around. So even in death, they wan't to have untethered legs,as though they might run again, instead of being sent into a hot oven.

I am just so torn. If I go out to eat now I always have the vegan/vegetarian option, there's some really nice dishes out there that don't involve meat.
I have started having soya milk because it tastes absolutely fine.

DH does 95% of the cooking. He likes meat, DS likes meat, he cooks meat. I don't eat huge lumps of meat like lamb/pork/beef. I might have something made with mince, I eat chicken breasts, and bacon, I always have veggie sausages. I just don't know whether to say I'll sort my own meals and let them get on with the meat as I'm getting less enthusiastic by the day.

Mutton would have been more usual, and the word related to the French, mouton. Not sure about the general sense of eating lamb when mutton would have given to many more consumers in a food and a fleece sense. Lamb as an Easter offering has a big symbolic element to it but it may have been rare/wasteful to eat it 'indulgently' once only just born.

Regarding chickens being trussed - possibly it might have looked 'right' to people who would have been used to buying meat hung up like this (particularly birds) from butchers before plastic and fridges were the norm.

@Tlollj

Why are pigs called pork and cows called beef but lamb is lamb?

Because of William the Conqueror.

The posh names for everything in this country came over from France and the common name for everything is ye olde Saxon English.

@Sparklingbrook

I am just so torn. If I go out to eat now I always have the vegan/vegetarian option, there's some really nice dishes out there that don't involve meat. I have started having soya milk because it tastes absolutely fine.

DH does 95% of the cooking. He likes meat, DS likes meat, he cooks meat. I don't eat huge lumps of meat like lamb/pork/beef. I might have something made with mince, I eat chicken breasts, and bacon, I always have veggie sausages. I just don't know whether to say I'll sort my own meals and let them get on with the meat as I'm getting less enthusiastic by the day.

Why would you need to sort your own meals?

Would DH try using veggie mince? Some are nicer than others, you just have to find the one you like.

Is he putting chicken into sauces/curries or serving the whole breast on a plate? Either way it's easy to do veggie alternative for you/all of you.

I don't use a lot of alternatives myself, but they have their place (veggie burgers) and cauldron sausages, but I don't bother in a curry, I'll just make a veggie curry and 99% of the time I'll just make a vegetable lasagne - every now & then I'll make one with veggie mince.

If you want more 'out there' veggie meals maybe you can learn to cook them together and they can have them as sides to a piece of meat?

Depends on how supportive/willing to be open minded your DH is?

I went veggie overnight, my then partner was brilliantly supportive, but he didn't do much of the cooking. He would always make sure he booked places to eat out that had options for me and check what was in things or whatever. That was a million years ago (30 years) when things were very different. Since then, I've come into every relationship as veggie, so it's a bit different. (And these days, due to health issues, it's probably the least troublesome of my dietary things!!).

@SleepingStandingUp

And don't get me started on what happens when you behead a daisy or pierce their body to interlink their dying corpses to make daisy chains

Jeez that is a thought..:

You are literally playing with Daisy corpses in order to make your Daisy chains.

Cut flowers...you are displaying the corpses of the flowers which you can only enjoy for a few days before they decompose

How morbid

”Yes, I don't know, maybe we don't want to know. sad I don't eat chicken's underarms in any case they're horrible same as thighs and drumsticks. Breast is the only chicken body part I can do and that might not be for much longer.”

We can share nicely, @Sparklingbrook - I much prefer the leg and wing meat to the breast.

I love a good drumstick

Between us, we could probably consume all the chicken anyway

@BIWI

Prawn of the Dead?

I'll get my coat ...

😀

when we were kids my sister used to pick up a whole raw chicken, hold it under the wings and move the body while I moved the legs so chicken could have a last party.
we'd sing too.

years later seeing Monica's head-stuck-in-turkey's-arse dance in Friends was incredibly familiar (though we never wore the chickens on our heads)

you are not the only weirdo

And if you play Miss Polly @soubriquet you're taking pleasure in popping their off from their bodies to entertain children.

Pressed flowers, you're squashing their bodies flat and drying them out to display them