I think harry is really brave

[ssd]

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

@justanotherneighinparadise

God I’ve just cringed so hard reading the excerpts. We’ve gone from ‘stuff upper lip’ to the victim olympics.

This. It's ridiculous. What is his endgame?

They should renounce their titles and go live their lives away from the public.

@LeilaLiesLow

How many of us have perfect parents?

How many of us ARE perfect parents?

Exactly.

And how many of us whether in counselling or not, would take to the media and criticise our families who are still alive?

Every single person could blame their parents and upbringing for something. I could. But I talk to my friends and DH about it when I need to.

Talking to the media and causing so much pain to your parent and grandparents who simply did their best at the time, is cruel and shows a lack of maturity.

I wonder what Archie's narrative will be in thirty years time?

I never thought I'd feel sorry for him, but I'm beginning to think he's actually quite unwell mentally, and is being exploited by those around him.

@HeraInTheHereAndNow

Harry and William are out now, blaming the media/press for the hounding of their mother and the lies behind the BBC Martin Bashir interview and yet... let’s not forget who is responsible for Diana’s fear, paranoia and isolation. I think the blame lies firmly with the Royal Family. Her duplicitous former husband, the mistress and all of those royals and royal staff who tried to silence her and sweep the reality of the marriage under the Royal Axminster.

I apologise for going off topic OP but really, I’d be depressed if I’d been led to believe one thing and then found that there was much much more to it.

OP, you do need to speak out and seek counselling/help. Really, see your GP.

I agree with you.

The RF + court is a toxic institution. Bashir merely echoed their own machinations.

They're all as bad as each other.

I think he's dreadfully stupid. I also find it very worrying that this all came about when he'd met a woman who was estranged from her family and how she said to him I felt suicidal but didn't do anything because I didn't want you to lose another woman in your life.

If he was my son I'd fly over there and bloody kidnap him to get him away from her. If a woman came on here and posted everything that had gone on with her son after meeting a new girlfriend everyone would be telling her to get him away from her.

So suddenly after what 20 years the fact his mother was dating someone of Egyptian decent is relevant to her death? Fits his racism narrative doesn't it. Diana was chased alone, and when dating men what ever their colour

@gobackanddoitproperly

Maybe he is an embarrassment to the UK, who knows. Not as much as an embarrassment as the royal family. Or more specifically, keeping up the tradition of the royal family. I think it's so incredibly bizarre a way to raise children, operate as adults and perpetuate this kind of antiquated idea that a person, or people, are so special by virtue of the fact that they happened to be born within a particular family. No wonder they're a bunch of fucked up misfits. I swing wildly between feeling incredibly sorry for them, and wishing the great unwashed would storm the joint.

I know, I know. Off with my head...

The idea that people are in some way 'special' by virtue of the fact that they happen to be born into a particular family is not unique to the royal family though. We do it for celebrity children all over the place. Would anyone care about the Beckham's child's photography 'career' if his parents weren't who they are? People who operate in the media industry, as much as they may hate the intrusion and bad headlines, know the game and understand that what they and their children can gain (money, status, media deals etc. etc.) is often worth the hassle. There are other royals who have gone about their lives in a much quieter way - Princess Anne's children. They are also grandchildren of the Queen. So it can be done.

@MoonshineTuttiFrutti and how do you think that sort of speculation helps his mental health?

How many people have siblings with very different personalities, are you accusing them of all having different fathers?

There was a cousin on Diana's side of the family who was the spitting image of Harry when they were little. Now Harry is older you can compare pictures of him with a younger Prince Philip and again you can see the family resemblance.

I think he’s a rich tosser

Not my definition of brave at all…

[quote Ihopeyourcakeisshit]@HeraInTheHereAndNow I'm also the child of an alcoholic (mum) in this case and had physical and mental abuse in childhood and beyond. to you.[/quote]
Another child of an alcoholic here who also lost a parent at an early age. I think what I'm struggling to understand, is what Harry is finding helpful about not just "getting on" with life. Raking it all up over and over, ruminating over it, it seems that he's letting what has happened in the past dominate and control his present and future. It just doesn't seem healthy to me.

And also, everything he went through, William went through as well. He has managed to find a way to cope without trashing everyone around him.
All parents make mistakes. Diana undoubtedly made some too. As a PP said, I wonder if he realises his own children may be complaining to the press in years to come about his parenting mistakes.

Can you not see how weird this all is?
He was so close to his brother his gran and granddad.
Loved his cousins.
Then Megs arrives and suddenly he destroyed all his support system and says he didn't see it till she showed him.
A woman who cuts people from her life, once they are no use to her.
This is no coincidence.
Harry is almost never smiling if she is with him, it's a toxic mix of two people who both have decided to be victims.

OP, i'm sure you would be 'brave' too if you were earning as much as he is from it

@DelilahDingleberry

I am appalled at the way people are talking about mental health on this site today. Absolutely appalled.

I'm appalled, absolutely appalled that a very rich man is using mental health as a platform to make money and is clearly being used by unscrupulous people. I feel that in the near future Harry is going to experience mental health issues of massive proportions.

The part about Diana driving with the two Princes strapped into their seats whilst being pursued by paparazzi sounds appalling. I do remember however that Diana indulged in a tongue in cheek cat n’ mouse game from time to time, with the media. So, up to a point, it was “Ok”. When the Royals want media “on their terms” it’s done but sadly, their position doesn’t allow the frenzy to be turned off when it suits them.

Same with Harry and MM. it’s all “How dare you print this/show that” but then, if the cash is right they’re happy to “pose” and give interviews. I do realise, it’s all about consent but even so, you’d think Harry would welcome his new freedom from it all and not want to be giving interviews to the masses, at all.

I should add, I was a big Diana fan. I think she was treated appallingly by the media. Worse, by the Royal family and her husband. Seems to me though that our monarchy always come up smelling of roses.

@Whythesadface

Oh ffs.

Will the misogyny never end.

He was seemed ok in the RF. Now it turns out he never was.
And always wanted to get out.

Blaming a woman for the actions of an adult male is risible.

I totally disagree with your definition of "brave"

Just seen another daily fail article about harry. More stuff he is saying about his family. When will he stop attacking his family?

@ssd

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain. I admire him.

I think he comes over very well. I hope he manages to do some good. I think both William and Harry have set a good example here.

@Fernie6491

As soon as I saw that report had come out I said to DH that it would give Harry the excuse to whine on for about another ten years. He's made a profession out of it.

He would do better to get a proper job and take his mind off it and give his mind a chance to be distracted for a while, instead of the constant self-pity. Many others lose parents at a similar young age, (obviously not always in such dreadful circumstances).

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My thought exactly when I read about the report. William made a concise statement expressing his fury, Harry issued a ramble of pseudo-psycho-babble.

@gottakeeponmovin

So suddenly after what 20 years the fact his mother was dating someone of Egyptian decent is relevant to her death? Fits his racism narrative doesn't it. Diana was chased alone, and when dating men what ever their colour

‘Suddenly’ ?

The way people twist and manipulate on MN for the sake of a Harry/Meghan bash is crazy. You’re saying that this is the first time in history that Dodi Al Fayeds race has been referred to in the context of Dianas death? Seriously?

They want to live privately so why don’t they do that? His grandfather was dying and they decide to go in telly and gave a massive interview airing the dirty laundry.

I'm really glad my mother didn't die in a televised car crash when I was 12.

Me too, with bells.

But also supremely concerned that all the Cambridges don't ever get in the same plane, and there's a horrifying accident.

Because then H is still our monarch in waiting.

Despite all this (I am not the UK, though in the C'wealth). Jeez - what a mess.

LOL!