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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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Notjustanymum · 21/05/2021 13:37

I’m not sure that he is being brave speaking out to the media about his family, as the backlash that it’s encouraging is likely to bite him back.

OP, as PP’s have said, it’s brave to open up to a trained therapist, and try to work through your problems that way, but to invite the Media, who he also blames for a lot of his problems, into his therapy is at best desperate, and at worst, madness.

Unfortunately, he neither comes across well, nor is likely to find resolution on the path he has chosen. Poor, poor, Harry.

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 13:37

All that "Be Kind" content on people's profiles, and it is, for the most part, just cosmetic, virtue-signalling bollocks on their part. They're not kind. At all

I think you will find this is precisely how people see Harry and Meghan, having spouting out the be kind messages etc, Harry choose to ignore his own Grandfather dying in London and instead of coming back to say goodbye, he launched the most horrific attack on the RF in the shape of the Oprah show, and then had the audacity to turn up for the funeral whilst lining up his next campaign against them?
Do you really think these are the actions of someone KIND or compassionate?
I mean seriously. Prince Philip was only buried last month and already he is attacking an elderly widow, that so happens to be his grandmother and the Queen. Running through his inherited pain at this point in time is a disgrace/
Do you think publicly slating a family in mourning is going to be met with anything other than disgust in the UK?

btwwhichonespink · 21/05/2021 13:38

@Whythesadface that is a most excellent point about the suicide. I don't believe she would have done it, or was even planning to although I don't personally know her so only speculating on past performance.

I worry what will happen when she inevitably ends it. He will lose everything. There is nothing attractive about a sulking moaning man-child which is what she seems to have turned him in to. She has helped to emasculate him, but won't want the new him when he isn't a prince, has no money and is just a moaning ball and chain that she created.

FreekStar · 21/05/2021 13:38

I think he's misguided in believing that airing your mental health in public will help him or anyone else. I don't even believe some of what he's saying.

If he thinks we'll believe he went out drinking with friends on Friday and Saturday nights in his 20s to drown out the pain, then he must think we're stupid. I went out drinking on Friday and Saturday nights in my 20's and drank a weeks allowance of alcohol in one go- and so did half the population. I had no pain!

ForgedInFire · 21/05/2021 13:39

@Bagamoyo1

What frustrates me is rich celebrities going on about how important it is to acknowledge mental health problems and seek help, when they have massive resources to get said help. Most people are dependent on the NHS, and psych services are woefully underfunded . So admitting you have a problem is just the first stage. You then have to wait months to get some counselling. I’d prefer wealthy celebs to sponsor services rather than do tear jerking interviews. But I guess if it encourages people to open up then it’s better than nothing.

I agree with this. The dialogue around MH right now is "people need to open up, they need to talk to people, don't be ashamed" and the fact that the MH services are underfunded and hard to access is just waved away. Harry is lucky that he could afford several years of therapy and didn't experience having to start again with a new person every few weeks because your old worker left or needed to adjust their workload. I wish a celebrity would try to raise a bit of awareness of that

ScienceSensibility · 21/05/2021 13:40

any of these threads which veer into criticism of Meghan Markle tend to get zapped fairly quickly.

Along with the McCann case, it’s a topic Mumsnet wish to censor.

Thephantom · 21/05/2021 13:40

Ahhh..the 'woe is me Harry' He will even sell his dead mother , not just his mental health to make it all about himself and how he is the victim of it all in order get million $$ deals to fund his lifestyle.

Lsquiggles · 21/05/2021 13:40

I'm very conflicted about the whole situation. I think he's brave to speak out about his mental health as this will help others reach out. However, he regularly mentions how he hates publicity, cameras make him angry and so on. He could easily step back from the limelight and have a quiet life with his family away from the cameras, especially now he has relocated to the US, but he is seeking out these opportunities for press. I think he is trying very hard to be relatable to the every day person by speaking about how he's struggled, but he grew up with a life of privilege unlike anything the everyday person will have experienced, so I don't relate to him and find it hard to feel bad for him

KowhaiWhy · 21/05/2021 13:41

Harry realises that the hatred will only stop when Meghan is dead. He mentions it in episode 3 of the series

Or they could simply live a very happy and contented life off the radar. They could have chosen anywhere in the world and had a low key life, they didn't need to blow up their families, both sides, nor choose the most public place in the world to live. An alternative was offered anywhere on the commonwealth and refused.
They are choosing to live this way, and not only that but they are actively stoking up the hatred and drama relentlessly on a daily basis.

They stopped being the 'victims' if they ever were, some time ago.*

This ^^ is very good.

And "realises" is - to borrow a phrase from PP - doing an awful lot of heavy lifting here. Could easily be substituted for (among others): thinks, believes, opines.

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 13:41

I hope she was worth it.

What a price to pay. Poor sod.

bathsh3ba · 21/05/2021 13:42

He's not being brave because he's stuck in the 'it's everyone else's fault I feel like this' stage. Bravery would mean accepting where he is right now, acknowledging what he can and can't change and getting on with it. Quietly, not in the glare of the media.

btwwhichonespink · 21/05/2021 13:43

@ScienceSensibility

any of these threads which veer into criticism of Meghan Markle tend to get zapped fairly quickly.

Along with the McCann case, it’s a topic Mumsnet wish to censor.

I didn't know that! So we are not allowed to say anything bad about her, even if it is personal opinion?

Maybe because she is so litigious?

MistySkiesAfterRain · 21/05/2021 13:44

Really he hasn't ever said a bad word about his mother and she was the one closest to him that had mental health issues.

He is going through a process but doing it all very publicly. I can see the desire to have his say. Starting to put his energies into something positive will help, and he is better at telling other peoples stories.

I still don't understand why they didn't get royal protection, I mean I always saw them as two equal brothers, and especially given Diana's death as a child he should have then been given protection for life. I feel that was truly deeply shocking and the fact that a nation mourned so exuberantly then went cold on him when he didn't grieve properly is wierd. Shame on us.

thereisonlyoneofme · 21/05/2021 13:44

I feel sorry for him in some ways but the way he has thrown the whole family under a bus, surely they havent all ignored how he felt, really makes mean lean more to the please just shut up and take a low profile, as you want "privacy"

Chamonixshoopshoop · 21/05/2021 13:45

I feel sorry for Harry and feel very sad we’ve lost him.
He was doing so much good for veterans, for example, and it’s such a shame we’ve lost him.
I also feel sad that this journey he’s on won’t cure him and in fact appears to be burning his bridgss with the UK out also making him incredibly unpopular in the US.
The whole thing is just really sad and it’s a shame it’s ended up like this.
I fear that Meghan will eventually leave him when his popularity starts to wain (even more so than now) and then who will he have?

Ylvamoon · 21/05/2021 13:45

Maybe we need to look at this from a different perspective.

Harry has grown up with the media. I'm sure he has received coaching in "how to... the media".

For this reason, sadly I believe he does know what he is doing and how he wants to be seen.
What he doesn’t know is how potentially damaging this will be for his future.
Imagine him (and Megan) re joining the RF in 15 years time just because blood is thiker than water. This could turn out to be disastrous when all this stuff gets regurgitated.

MmeLaraque · 21/05/2021 13:46

@Watermelon222 MN deleted that thread, because it broke their rules. I was reading it when it disappeared. A lot of the anti-H&M threads break the rules.

KaleSlayer · 21/05/2021 13:46

I’m glad Harry is speaking out. I like what I know of him and hope he has found happiness. I think he has.

RickiTarr · 21/05/2021 13:46

I’ve only seen a summary, but is he complaining that his family were terrible “even when Meghan was suicidal” despite not telling them Meghan had expressed suicidal thoughts?

RickiTarr · 21/05/2021 13:47

I didn't know that! So we are not allowed to say anything bad about her, even if it is personal opinion?

Maybe because she is so litigious?

Just don’t get carried away.

DogsSausages · 21/05/2021 13:48

On top of having to deal with his own personal anguish he had to support M through her suicidal thoughts too, I feel quite sorry for him, he seems to be on the path to self destruction and they seem like a very damaged unhappy couple.

IcedPurple · 21/05/2021 13:49

@Chamonixshoopshoop

I feel sorry for Harry and feel very sad we’ve lost him. He was doing so much good for veterans, for example, and it’s such a shame we’ve lost him. I also feel sad that this journey he’s on won’t cure him and in fact appears to be burning his bridgss with the UK out also making him incredibly unpopular in the US. The whole thing is just really sad and it’s a shame it’s ended up like this. I fear that Meghan will eventually leave him when his popularity starts to wain (even more so than now) and then who will he have?

We haven't lost him.

This is the real Harry. This is who he is.

The "cheerful captain Wales" Harry was a persona invented by his highly competent private secretary, Edward Lane Fox. It was people like him doing the actual work, and all Harry had to do was be driven there in a limo and get fawned over for an hour or two tops. But now we're hearing that even this was too much for him and he had to 'grit his teeth' to make small talk with hard-working people maybe once a week.

We haven't lost anything other than a phony PR creation. The Yanks are more than welcome to him.

Sylvan92 · 21/05/2021 13:49

@derxa

I think Harry should carry on. Let it all play out. He's at a certain stage of life where he thinks he will be the perfect parent as opposed to his neglectful father. (He did have another parent but let's just gloss over that) There is no perfect formula for life. 10 years hence he may see his family differently. I wish him all the best

I agree but unfortunately his relationship with his extended family will probably be irreparable by then.

Justme10 · 21/05/2021 13:49

Honestly from reading some of the comments on this thread it's no wonder people are too afraid to speak out when they are struggling.

Jojoanna · 21/05/2021 13:50

My god Harry enough now

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