Fed up of other peoples dogs complicating my life.

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I don't mind dogs. We don't have them because of environmental concerns - we have vegetarian pets.

However recently I am fed up as trying to arrange to meet various family members seems to be totally constrained by their dogs . Here are examples:

Lets meet up for a pub lunch - family member A - "are dogs allowed"
Lets go for a country walk - family member B "can it be dog friendly"
How about a beach visit - family member C - "will dog have to be on lead"

I want to see family - not their dogs. Why can't the dogs just stay at home ...............

We love our pets but we don't want to take them everywhere with us.

" wonder why they get a non-smelly dog groomed. Seems like a waste of money to me"

This is where the comparison came from, because it implies that the only reason to get a dog groomed is that it must smell rather than the myriad of other reasons why a dog might need to be groomed, such as keeping long coated breeds at a manageable length. 🙄 I'm not about to start cutting my own hair but I still manage to keep my hair clean in between hair dressing appointments.

@SchadenfreudePersonified

Agreed, a dog is different from a hamster, budgie or rabbit. Or even a cat. A dog is a real part of the family.

Cats are also aprt of the family, but they are the stroppy teenagers whole wouldn't be seen dead with you in public.

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@TheMNChicken

" wonder why they get a non-smelly dog groomed. Seems like a waste of money to me"

This is where the comparison came from, because it implies that the only reason to get a dog groomed is that it must smell rather than the myriad of other reasons why a dog might need to be groomed, such as keeping long coated breeds at a manageable length. 🙄 I'm not about to start cutting my own hair but I still manage to keep my hair clean in between hair dressing appointments.

I would assume that you take your dog to be groomed because it was a long haired breed maybe and needed a haircut. Most owners give their dog baths, I don't know why they would do that unless they smelt from rolling in fox poo or mud etc.Otherwise why bath them? You don't need a groomer for that.

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@Miljea

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Our dog is no more or less part of the family than the other animals we have.
There isn't an odd animal hierarchy with dogs at the top.
( in reality it is a flat structure with only one top animal the cat)
The cat doesn't want to be dragged around to see our friends however.

There isn't an odd animal hierarchy with dogs at the top.
(in reality it is a flat structure with only one top animal the cat)

🤣 So true!

I dont like dogs either. Im sick of folk whose whole life revolves round a dog.

@AlicjaCross

Hopefully they will realise that humans are more important than dogs

Dear me you are a sad sack 🤣

Massive LOL at someone who values human life over the lives of dogs as "sad sacks"

Also the grooming question was tongue in cheek so I'm amused to see it's caused so much debate

I love dogs and love a big dog walk followed by a dog friendly pub but I have to say the increase in dick head dog owners is noticeable - your dog doesn’t have a right to be off it’s everywhere you go. I’ve seen dogs running onto football matches, dogs bounding up to kids eating and licking their food, dogs in fields with livestock. I was raised with border collies and we KEPT THEM ON A LEAD unless it was a secure open space.

The owners are usually miles away chatting to someone. And the dogs have no recall.

Or just get so much aggro that they can't be bothered to say no to them anymore. And even if they lose some customers who don't like dogs around, it's worth it to avoid the aggro from the dog owners. Which I suppose is your point.
Not my point at all. I I made no reference to aggro.
Your reply sounds like you've just invented an entire scenario where your own chips about dogs are coming across loud and clear.

Many pubs have gone down the route of serving decent food and being open to families until a certain time. If I were to have a chip about children the way you seem to about dogs, I could argue they only do this because they are so fed up of all the aggro from parents. Of course, really they're opening up their target market because it means they can make more money. Naturally, there's always some adults who will moan about the fact there's families in their local, can't go anywhere without kids etc, but at the end of the day their Friday night drinks aren't as profitable as multiple food bookings which include families.

I don't take my dogs into cafes, but I can see why being open to dogs might be good for business.

• It means people who are walking their dogs might call in as passing trade when they otherwise might not.

-They might come in with their dog and get a coffee to go, which otherwise wouldn't have happened. -They are probably more likely to be a quicker customer than, for example, 2 friends who have been nursing the last cm of their coffee for the last 30 minutes.

• Not everywhere accepts dogs, and nor should they, so those who do get recommended to friends with dogs, which increases trade to the cafe
• More business for the cafe makes it a decent business idea.

I don't really see why a business making business decisions to increase profit is a problem.

I know of one couple who, from listening to the way they speak to both, put their dogs above their kids in the family hierarchy and it makes me cringe and want to weep for the kids.

Dog friendly eating places are also losing custom because people who don't like dogs around them while eating will avoid them.

Sometimes you just want a peaceful meal without barking dogs and/or screechy children.

I know of one couple who, from listening to the way they speak to both, put their dogs above their kids in the family hierarchy and it makes me cringe and want to weep for the kids.

No need for a hierarchy though. My kids worship our dogs. Everyone gets what they need but our dogs are centre of world, the kids wouldn’t have it any other way.

@Viviennemary

I dont like dogs either. Im sick of folk whose whole life revolves round a dog.

Ditch them then, it will probably be a win win situation all round.

@Voluptuagoodshag

I know of one couple who, from listening to the way they speak to both, put their dogs above their kids in the family hierarchy and it makes me cringe and want to weep for the kids.

That’s erm quite dramatic. Sounds great to not have spoilt brats dominating everything. My friends insist on dragging their screaming toddlers with them during day meet ups, I am switching to evenings now that pubs are open inside again.

I don’t wail and weep for children taught to value animals though.

@KaleSlayer if there is no hierarchy all well and good but when I hear the mum speak to dogs in doggy woggy woofles language then turn round and call the kids brats, to their face, in front of others, there is something far wrong, IMO!

@Bettyisboring they are not screaming toddlers though, they are teenagers. And to speak if your kids in that way in front of others is demeaning whilst the dogs rule the roost!

Voluptuagoodshag

That just means she’s doesn’t treat her kids nicely, not that she treats her dogs too good. Some people should just be alone.

@Voluptuagoodshag

I know of one couple who, from listening to the way they speak to both, put their dogs above their kids in the family hierarchy and it makes me cringe and want to weep for the kids.

There was a thread a few years ago called something like animals vs humans asking people if they had a choice would they save a stranger's child or their dog from a burning building.

Not only did an alarming number of people say they'd save their dog, a huge number of posters said they'd save their pet (be it a dog, horse, cat) before they'd save their own children it was a depressing read

And they justified it by saying "my kids would understand" - I don't think they would!

There was a thread a few years ago called something like animals vs humans asking people if they had a choice would they save a stranger's child or their dog from a burning building.

Who the fuck thinks that question up? Clearly someone who is very fucked up. If I had those thoughts, I’d seek some help.

OMG I’m 100% with you OP!

So many people have got fucking lockdown dogs and now we are back on inside socialising are causing so many problems!

A friend asked if they could bring their dog to mine for dinner on Friday. I said no. Then just before they were meant to come over called and said could they reeeaaaallly not bring the dog? I say can you guarantee she’ll sit on her bed and not go on any carpet areas or soft furnishings? No. Then no you can’t bring her!

Different friends on Saturday ‘can we get an outside table so we can bring the dog?’ No. It’s fucking freezing and we’ve booked inside.