Page 2 | Protesters stop immigration van in Glasgow

RedcurrantPuff · 14/05/2021 07:39

@Puttingouthefirewithgasoline

Ok confused actually, the street looks jam packed with people? Covid risk, yes nicola this is a pandemic? and two Indian natinals? When did they arrive? Can we at least give them a covid test if they arrived recently?

I'm not sure how large scale gathering of people with a new raging mutant strain is going to help anyone?

Not just that but the area is having a surge of the Indian variant.

I’m in Glasgow and my FB is full of people going on about how amazing it is, they’d be the first to moan if it was football fans gathering in a similar way

As people are so fond of saying on this site, “Covid doesn’t care” if your gathering is for a morally acceptable reason.

So no, I don’t think this is worth applauding at all, and I’m not being goady. If there’s a spike and it affects reopening up here I’ll be really pissed of.

TinyGlassOwl · 14/05/2021 07:50

God I bloody love Glasgow

And as for 'rounded up'? Get tae fuck.

midgedude · 14/05/2021 07:54

I heard they had been here10 years
10 years , 3650 days and you pick EID, in the middle of the pandemic, to deport people ?

Using Immigration laws that we know strongly divide the country ?

GlasgowsGreen · 14/05/2021 08:46

The spike in G41 is already here, it’s nothing to do with this event. What Glasgow did yesterday was amazing.

What will no doubt happen on Saturday will not be.

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GreenChips · 14/05/2021 09:04

For those saying they don't think it was a good thing or seem to be missing something, so you really think that dawn raids, dragging people (already vulnerable usually) out of their homes with no warning and no chance to obtain representation is how he should be treating humans?

Yesterday was calculated, all the MSPs were in parliament, it was sturgeon's constituency, it was eid, the guys had lived in Glasgow for years. It was completely disproportionate.

They were people's neighbours and friends, they are part of a community and I am glad that community came out and stood by them.

If there was no covid spike after a huge group of thugs were allowed to take over the city and smash the place up, and will be allowed to do so again this weekend, then I am sure this will be fine too.

Glasgow isn't without its problems and racism is an issue, even last week both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf were approached at the election. I am just glad that people came out and said not our neighbours.

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Soontobe60 · 14/05/2021 09:05

@Puttingouthefirewithgasoline

Ok confused actually, the street looks jam packed with people? Covid risk, yes nicola this is a pandemic? and two Indian natinals? When did they arrive? Can we at least give them a covid test if they arrived recently?

I'm not sure how large scale gathering of people with a new raging mutant strain is going to help anyone?

Misses the point completely!

Soontobe60 · 14/05/2021 09:08

@Whoarethewho

What's the point of immigration control of they can't round up people who may have been here illegally?

‘Round people up’??? They’re not cattle, they're human beings.

DipSwimSwoosh · 14/05/2021 09:11

OP thanks for taking the time to explain to those posters who seem completely ignorant about what happened but still want to give their (racist) opinion.

ssd · 14/05/2021 09:14

Glasgow is brilliant. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

Clawdy · 14/05/2021 09:20

Great to see some heartwarming news for once, well done Glasgow.

kikisparks · 14/05/2021 09:42

So glad the protest resulted in a peaceful resolution. It was very emotional when the two men were released after so many hours stuck in a van, well done Glasgow.

RedcurrantPuff · 14/05/2021 09:46

No I haven’t “missed the point” and my opinion is not “racist”.

There is a surge of the Indian variant in this area, we are supposed to still be under local restrictions, and yet this is supposed to be Ok?

Do we live under mob rule now then?

nellly · 14/05/2021 09:48

I'm also a bit perplexed at the widespread support of this too,
I agree that our immigration laws are divisive but I'm not sure that enforcing them against (two sikh men) on Eid is more controversial per se.

Also this notion that the law doesn't apply if your neighbours think you're a good egg

ItsSoFanny · 14/05/2021 09:49

"mob"

It was a peaceful protest that lasted around ten hours. There was no violence.
But yeah...
"mob"

Get it up ye, Priti.

Mylittlesandwich · 14/05/2021 09:51

I'm torn honestly. I don't think a huge gathering of people during a pandemic is a good idea but I also think detaining people during a massive religious holiday is shocking. There's absolutely no way this could have been done another time? I find that difficult to believe.
Imagine sitting down to christmas dinner with all your friends and family (within current guidelines) only to have the door taken off its hinges and see your family members dragged away. That would be so upsetting and you'd think about it every year.

RedcurrantPuff · 14/05/2021 09:53

@GreenChips

For those saying they don't think it was a good thing or seem to be missing something, so you really think that dawn raids, dragging people (already vulnerable usually) out of their homes with no warning and no chance to obtain representation is how he should be treating humans?

Yesterday was calculated, all the MSPs were in parliament, it was sturgeon's constituency, it was eid, the guys had lived in Glasgow for years. It was completely disproportionate.

They were people's neighbours and friends, they are part of a community and I am glad that community came out and stood by them.

If there was no covid spike after a huge group of thugs were allowed to take over the city and smash the place up, and will be allowed to do so again this weekend, then I am sure this will be fine too.

Glasgow isn't without its problems and racism is an issue, even last week both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf were approached at the election. I am just glad that people came out and said not our neighbours.

I dont know enough about the case to comment on whether I agree with the reason for the arrest. But for well over a year on this site people have droned on about “following rules”, compliance with the law is not optional. But now all of a sudden it is? People have been slated on here and called selfish for going to see family members against the rules - but this is OK?

As for Covid, this area is already spiking and the Indian variant is in circulation. I wish I shared your baseless optimism that it is likely to be fine.

I’m definitely angry about this but not with the police or home office.

UsedUpUsername · 14/05/2021 09:54

@GreenChips

So pleased to see how the community came together for their neighbours in my home city today.

Police release men from immigration van blocking Glasgow street www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57100259

Felt quite emotional watching the men being released from the van to all the cheers.

To do that today of all days in a Muslim community was just awful.

Hope this won’t turn out to be like the plane incident where they stopped the UK from deporting a literal rapist 🙄

Flowers500 · 14/05/2021 10:12

Christ some of you are useless human beings. If you can’t tell the difference between people getting drunk at football and a community seeking to save its residents you’re not only lacking heart, you’re lacking brains too

Originalyellowbelly · 14/05/2021 10:26

Flowers500 Covid19 can't tell the difference either.

Yakkabee · 14/05/2021 10:27

Also confused by this whole thing. How can we judge the situation this without knowing the background for their detention? Someone said they’d been in the country for years, do you mean illegally? If so, why? Had they committed a crime/avoided tax/deliberately avoided immigration procedure? Or are they completely innocent? I don’t know how I feel about it, can anyone provide links to reasons for such detention?

Flowers500 · 14/05/2021 10:31

@Originalyellowbelly

Flowers500 Covid19 can't tell the difference either.

Right. So there’s Covid in existence and you’re following all the rules. But your uncle (for e.g.) who lives around the corner is being dragged out of his house to be deported and taken to India? And you’d just shrug. Please tell me how that is consistent with being a rational, empathetic person?

midsomermurderess · 14/05/2021 10:32

If people, by their own admission, don't know 'enough' about the facts, why comment. Implying that they are recent arrivals carrying the Indian variant of COVID, that they might be 'literal' rapists. Your contributions are vacuous.

Flowers500 · 14/05/2021 10:36

@Yakkabee

Also confused by this whole thing. How can we judge the situation this without knowing the background for their detention? Someone said they’d been in the country for years, do you mean illegally? If so, why? Had they committed a crime/avoided tax/deliberately avoided immigration procedure? Or are they completely innocent? I don’t know how I feel about it, can anyone provide links to reasons for such detention?

It’s probably an issue with a visa, maybe it’s out of date or paperwork is incorrect, maybe they overstayed a visa because they had a kid here and were not granted right to stay, maybe they lost a job and therefore right to stay despite being here decades. These are all the most likely explanations. Obviously it could be something much darker too.

Immigration proviseures in this country are incredibly harsh and often utterly irrational. The home office takes particular joy in pursuing people for tiny paperwork issues. It’s well known to be the worst run department in gouvernement and basically the only area whey they will irrationally pursue people. They are getting constant court orders against them for refusing to follow protocol, refusing to address their issues.

Originalyellowbelly · 14/05/2021 10:38

Flowers500 while I am sympathetic to these persons, there case does not trump the safety and health of a whole community, city, country. Until this pandemic is over mass demonstrations should not, and are not allowed whether they are peaceful or not, or maybe you think the risk of major infection is ok in this case.

Yakkabee · 14/05/2021 10:50

Thank you @Flowers500. Of course in that case it is utterly inhumane.
I am still perplexed at the mass hysteria of it, and subsequent praise of the Glasgow community.. when the background is not known.
Seems strange to me. If people DID know the background and the reasons are purely admin-related then surely suggests the whole things a set up?