What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

[drinkingwineoutofamug]

As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

@Lockdownbear

Was it maybe a concern that the pill or contraption drugs could cause breast issues?

I just can't imagine that it was so common for that many Drs to be perves.

I think both your statements are probably correct.

I know someone who got a breast examination as part of a work medical. She's pretty sure it was pervy. I think those kinds of things are quite common. I remember Dr Chris Steele on This Morning saying medical students had an abbreviation for unnecessary breast examinations.

OTOH I do think there are sometimes good reasons for them.

@Lockdownbear

Was it maybe a concern that the pill or contraption drugs could cause breast issues?

I just can't imagine that it was so common for that many Drs to be perves.

I remember reading in Just Seventeen that when you went to the GP to ask for the pill, they would do a breast examination. So I wasn't surprised although I did feel a little bit uncomfortable (it was the first time I'd had any kind of 'grown up', intimate sort of physical examination).

At my booking in appointment when I was pg, I wasn't expecting a breast exam however and the male doctor who did it was very rough and left bruises. It was horrible.

Btw Summer of 69 is so called because Bryan Adams is recalling the summer when he first had a blow job. It has nothing to do with the actual year

Sorry, that should've said the summer he first did a '69' with his gf.

And that's enough thinking about Bryan Adams in compromising situations for one day

@Sunnyday321

When I was at school communal showers were obligatory and the P.E teacher would make us line up and tick off our name, we would then have to hold up our towel and go through the shower. The only time you got out of it was if you had a period. She would put a mark against your name to make sure it only happened once a month .

I recall our PE teachers doing this in the 80s. My mum went up and had a talk with the teacher, because she was giving me detention as I couldn't possibly be having periods when I said I was.

My family tend to have irregular periods, and in the couple of years after I started having periods aged 12, it was wildly swinging between 2 week cyles up to 6 weeks a couple of times, eventually settling down to a 32 day cycle.

It was so wrong to be monitoring girls in this way, and forcing girls to shower. I'm still cross my mum had to go and tell the teacher to knock it off.

I don't want to derail re Bryan Adams. But I always thought 69 was giving and receiving at the same time - not just a blow-job. Hence the 69 shape.

@apalledandshocked

I don't want to derail re Bryan Adams. But I always thought 69 was giving and receiving at the same time - not just a blow-job. Hence the 69 shape.

It is, I corrected myself. I'm off my tits on codeine for a dodgy foot and not thinking straight!

@TurquoiseDragon

I recall our PE teachers doing this in the 80s. My mum went up and had a talk with the teacher, because she was giving me detention as I couldn't possibly be having periods when I said I was ... It was so wrong to be monitoring girls in this way, and forcing girls to shower. I'm still cross my mum had to go and tell the teacher to knock it off.

What did the teacher say? Did your mum's intervention (which, I totally agree, should not have been necessary) have any effect?

@SingingSands

Who remembers cans of Tennents lager with "sexy" women on them? So men could combine alcohol with leering at young models in their lingerie. Grim.

Do you also remember the displays of bags of peanuts that used to be in pubs, that would have a scantily-clad woman on the card behind?

www.retrospace.org/2011/07/sex-sells-26-big-d-nuts.html?m=1

We used to bring home little books from school (early 80s)i think they were called Sunny Smiles. They were full of photos of children who lived in children's homes. You would choose your favourite child, rip their picture out of the booklet and put it in an envelope with some money to go back to school and supposedly go to help that particular child. I used to get really excited about choosing a child. So so odd now I think about it.

@Posyc

We used to bring home little books from school (early 80s)i think they were called Sunny Smiles. They were full of photos of children who lived in children's homes. You would choose your favourite child, rip their picture out of the booklet and put it in an envelope with some money to go back to school and supposedly go to help that particular child. I used to get really excited about choosing a child. So so odd now I think about it.

I had totally forgotten about these. Ugh.

@Posyc

We used to bring home little books from school (early 80s)i think they were called Sunny Smiles. They were full of photos of children who lived in children's homes. You would choose your favourite child, rip their picture out of the booklet and put it in an envelope with some money to go back to school and supposedly go to help that particular child. I used to get really excited about choosing a child. So so odd now I think about it.

I had totally forgotten about these. Ugh.

[quote Lockdownbear]@CirclesWithinCircles re unisex changing areas, these should have partitions that go to the floor.

Pervs will always exist.
It's better for mums and dad's to keep their DC with them in changing areas than to be separated.

I wouldn't be happy sending my 9yo son into a separate changing area where I couldn't get to.[/quote]
The ideal would be to have all three:

Male changing room - only for males

Female changing rooms - only for females

Family changing rooms - only for adults with children, NO single visitors allowed.

With all the talk of gymnastics and leotards.. does anyone else feel uncomfortable about small children having to have full faces of make up for dance competitions etc? I always find this so bizarre! I have a friend who didn't want to put make up on her primary child and fake tan, but she was told it was an absolute requirement at one of the local dance schools.

‘Sunny Smiles’ used to be printed at the National Children’s Home (NCH) near where I lived.

[quote ProfessionalWeirdo]@TurquoiseDragon

I recall our PE teachers doing this in the 80s. My mum went up and had a talk with the teacher, because she was giving me detention as I couldn't possibly be having periods when I said I was ... It was so wrong to be monitoring girls in this way, and forcing girls to shower. I'm still cross my mum had to go and tell the teacher to knock it off.

What did the teacher say? Did your mum's intervention (which, I totally agree, should not have been necessary) have any effect?[/quote]
Yes, it had an effect, I suspect because the teacher didn't want to deal with mum again. I was spared the humiliation. Sadly, others weren't, perhaps because their mums didn't do anything about it. It was the 80s and seemed pretty normal for then.

We had Sunny Smiles at Sunday school. They were to raise money for the National Children's Homes. We not only bought one ourselves, but we were expected to sell the pictures to relatives, neighbours etc. There would be a bit of competition to see who could sell the most pictures.
We used to go to the open day at the National Children's Home in Harpenden. I never succeeded in seeing any of the children from the Sunny Smiles book though.
You could look round the group flats where the children lived.
It seems very intrusive now.

I saw a clip of an interview between Ellen DeGeneres and Nicky Minaj where Ellen asked her how she felt about young people listening to her very explicit lyrics. She said she felt as though she didn’t have to deal with it, she’s not their parents.

@ladyinacampervan

As for 'What's the perviness of Depeche Mode?' - look at the lyrics for 'A Question of Time':

Well, now you're only fifteen
And you look good
I'll take you under my wing
Somebody should

Many of their earlier songs are bit pervy sounding but also open to interpretation, but the above has never sat right once I passed 15 myself and became an adult!

tbf when I was a teen I thought that Dave Gahan and Martin Lee Gore were a gay couple so I didn't think there was anything wrong in a gay man taking a 15yo under his wing as I thought it was platonic. I was quite wrong there I think.

So sorry I didn’t know that, I’m so disappointed and disillusioned 😪

It is, I corrected myself. I'm off my tits on codeine for a dodgy foot and not thinking straight!

I’m glad I’m not the only one posting through an opiate haze! The first hour after the tablets I can’t do anything more important than chat and drink tea. It’s a bugger though isn’t it? Have some fellow feeling.

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather

We had Sunny Smiles at Sunday school. They were to raise money for the National Children's Homes. We not only bought one ourselves, but we were expected to sell the pictures to relatives, neighbours etc. There would be a bit of competition to see who could sell the most pictures. We used to go to the open day at the National Children's Home in Harpenden. I never succeeded in seeing any of the children from the Sunny Smiles book though. You could look round the group flats where the children lived. It seems very intrusive now.

Just remembered another one. The SEN children in my primary school were all put in the same class, regardless of age or needs. Everyone - children, parents, teachers - used to call it the 'r***s class'. So disgusting I couldn't even type the word and please delete this if needs be.

It wasn't done in a derogatory way, more a matter of fact way. Just horrible.

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather I'm not sure why I've accidentally quoted you there, sorry!

@RickiTarr

It is, I corrected myself. I'm off my tits on codeine for a dodgy foot and not thinking straight!

I’m glad I’m not the only one posting through an opiate haze! The first hour after the tablets I can’t do anything more important than chat and drink tea. It’s a bugger though isn’t it? Have some fellow feeling.

Chatting and drinking tea, even, is a bit ambitious when I'm off my lips on them I really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the internet for at least four hours post pill popping!

Hope the pain (and daft head) eases soon

I really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the internet for at least four hours post pill popping!

What else is there to do in this state?

Everyone - children, parents, teachers - used to call it the 'r*s class'.

Bloody hell. That’s horrendous.

I was describing to DD yesterday the special needs bus that used to come round in the eighties and how all the DC on it were almost uniformly dressed in brown polyester, flares, generally 70s clothes and pudding bowl haircuts. I couldn’t decide how all the parents decided en masse that this was okay.

Your example is 100 times worse.

It’s like DC with SN really weren’t seen as human, by the system or even by their parents until the mid 90s. Was it the Children’s Act that changed things?