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What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

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drinkingwineoutofamug · 01/05/2021 12:18

As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

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MyHairNeedsASnip · 03/05/2021 21:51

@sar302

PE knickers. Big up and over ones that you wore with nothing but a gym T-shirt. In the winter. For cross country. Funnily enough the boys got to wear proper shorts 🤔

When we were in yr 9 they had a shake up of the pe staff and two younger female staff joined. They immediately added shorts to the girls PE uniform.

I was a bit "whatever" about it at the time. I was a "good girl" and just did and wore what I was told. But thinking now about how many women my age were put off exercise in their teens - well of course they bloody were. They were made to run around in a pair of knickers, at the start of puberty and periods, in front of hundreds of boys and male PE staff.

Why? Why on earth where those sodding knickers even considered an item of external clothing?

You've just broken a memory for me with that one! One day our year group refused to do PE dressed in the big knickers and tiny bum skimming skirts. Sat in the changing rooms and refused to move. They let us wear tracksuit bottoms after that day
SappysCurry · 03/05/2021 21:55

@RoSEbuds6

Miss World and Page 3 girls. We used to watch Miss World as a family and vote. Seems so demeaning now. Page 3 was just weird, why would a topless woman be even relevant in a newspaper? I never understood it.
80sactual.blogspot.com/2005/05/equality-in-80s-page-7-fella-and-story.html

They did attempt a redress with ‘page 7 fella’ but I remember it being quite short lived....surprisingly 😂😂

ladyinacampervan · 03/05/2021 22:05

There is nothing whatsoever wrong with Summer of 69 FFS. It's not a bloody autobiography, it's a song and the calling it the Summer of 78 doesn't have the same ring to it.

A nine year old wouldn't be getting a job and having friends that got married etc. Hmm

theDudesmummy · 03/05/2021 22:16

Yes, Miss World was a big thing in the country I gre up in, and a woman from there won in the 1970s. Such a big fuss and I bought into it as a young teenager. Embarrassing now...

Honeyroar · 03/05/2021 22:18

I don’t understand why anyone would be weirded out by Summer of 69. Springsteen’s I’m on fire has always made me cringe a little (despite really loving the melody!) However much it’s said to be about a woman and a sugar daddy (backed up by the video), the lyrics could 100% be about bloke lusting after a child, especially the “got a bad desire”. And he knew that when he wrote it!

ladyinacampervan · 03/05/2021 22:21

At 13 in the 80s I read a book called 'Easy Connections' and LOVED it at the time.

I thought it was totally normal for a man somewhere in his 20s to force himself on a 17yo girl and say it was fine because 'at the end she enjoyed it'. She got pregnant as well.

I'm horrified when I look back now especially because I re-read it so many times (which is why I remember the title) - and the girl ends up with the rapist in the end and that was romantic to me then.

Terrible!

thetwinkletoescollective · 03/05/2021 22:26

Never Ever by All Saints.

When ever that song comes on my spotify and I don't ff in time I get the rage...I think because the sentiment is so...'needy'/ girls taking on a disproporate amount of responsibliity in a romatic relationship breakdown...and I was listening to these messages as a teenage girl.

He was probably a shit and you just need to move on!

ladyinacampervan · 03/05/2021 22:34

As for 'What's the perviness of Depeche Mode?' - look at the lyrics for 'A Question of Time':

Well, now you're only fifteen
And you look good
I'll take you under my wing
Somebody should

Many of their earlier songs are bit pervy sounding but also open to interpretation, but the above has never sat right once I passed 15 myself and became an adult!

tbf when I was a teen I thought that Dave Gahan and Martin Lee Gore were a gay couple so I didn't think there was anything wrong in a gay man taking a 15yo under his wing as I thought it was platonic. I was quite wrong there I think.

BrownEyedGirl80 · 03/05/2021 23:03

My friend who was 15 at the time got into a relationship with a 32 year old family friend.Her parents knew about it and it became totally normal.

AnxiousWeirdo · 03/05/2021 23:07

My friend who was 15 at the time got into a relationship with a 32 year old family friend.Her parents knew about it and it became totally normal.

I'm 34, I couldn't imagine even looking at a 15 year old let alone being in a relationship with one. It's wrong on so many levels

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 03/05/2021 23:34

As for 'What's the perviness of Depeche Mode?' - look at the lyrics for 'A Question of Time'

Didn't they also release Stripped and A Question Of Lust?

That said, as we've already discussed, I don't necessarily have a problem with groups like DM singing songs about sex (as long as consenting adults and no exploitation), as they were never the kind of band that also targeted or really appealed to the teenyboppers, like The Spice Girls did (and, concerningly, Little Mix do now).

BrownEyedGirl80 · 03/05/2021 23:43

@AnxiousWeirdo I know.She was with him until she was 19.

theDudesmummy · 03/05/2021 23:48

I so loved Daddy Long Legs (book not film), thought it was the height of romance. Very dubious looking back now.

Gobbeldegook · 03/05/2021 23:49

Just been discussing the snow white ride with DH. He really doesn't get my points 🤷🏻‍♀️
The ableism surrounding the 'dwarves'
How its inappropriate to kiss someone who is incapacitated.
He's not thick and is pretty perfect in all other senses but my god. I don't understand why he doesn't understand 🤣 He says it's just a love story.
I said how would you feel if one of our dds were laid passed out in the woods and a stranger kissed them?
That's different apparently. Cause snow white isn't real 🙄
Yes leave it in the past to learn from but D**ney shouldn't be making new rides about non consented kisses.

TheSandman · 04/05/2021 00:47

How its inappropriate to kiss someone who is incapacitated

She wasn't 'incapacitated' she was in the original - as far as everyone knew - DEAD. She had snuffed it. Shuffled off this mortal coil... She was an Ex princess... That's why she was in a glass coffin!

Bit difficult to ask a dead person if they want a kiss so the idea of consent is totally pointless.

....though I suppose you could have a Ouija board by the side of the bier.

SingingSands · 04/05/2021 01:27

Who remembers cans of Tennents lager with "sexy" women on them? So men could combine alcohol with leering at young models in their lingerie. Grim.

RickiTarr · 04/05/2021 02:28

@theDudesmummy

I so loved Daddy Long Legs (book not film), thought it was the height of romance. Very dubious looking back now.
Oh my god. I remember borrowing that from my (secondary) school library when I was about 12. So late eighties.

Even then I was really freaked out that this had been chosen and purchased by the school as appropriate reading for teenaged girls. It was so obviously dodgy in its main storyline.

It’s as though there was this long period where society was split. The perverts and apologists on one side daring everyone else on the other side to speak up and put a stop to their antics.

Peanutbutterandbananatoastie · 04/05/2021 06:22

@meganorks

I haven't seen anyone mention it, but James Bond. I always hated bond films as a kid because the women seemed kind of pathetic. Even the baddies. They could be beating him up but he would manage to pin them down and start kissing them, and after some initial resistance they would be fully on board. I always thought Bond was a prick and the women were lame for not seeing it. That said, I do feel Daniel Craig's Bond isn't as bad as the old ones. Sean Connery is the worst!
Yes, always thought bond was a tit, even now all this stuff about who will be the next bond- hopefully no-one.
ProfYaffle · 04/05/2021 06:39

"I don't necessarily have a problem with groups like DM singing songs about sex (as long as consenting adults and no exploitation), as they were never the kind of band that also targeted or really appealed to the teenyboppers"

Though there was the time they did Master and Servant on the Wide Awake Club ....

bemusedmoose · 04/05/2021 07:43

A lot of 70s glam rock! Would sing along with out a care in the world, but suddenly something clicked and I actually 'listened' it's all about sex with young girls! Well not all of it, but by crickey there is a lot of crap going on they were openly singing about and brainwashing us all with.

bemusedmoose · 04/05/2021 07:47

Oh and My Sharona! I was in the car with my oldest sister and my kids, it came on and we started singing away - something just clicked we both just looked at each other in horror. How did that even get the OK!?! Just shows how rife abuse is.

Now we only sing the 'my corona' version! 😂

bemusedmoose · 04/05/2021 07:56

Oh and don't get me started on Disney! It's changed in recent years with more kick ass girls but the patheticness of the women and always needing to be saved and not life not being completely without a man. Don't even get me started on Snow White! What woman would just wander into a strange house and clean it!? Let alone happily be held captive by 7 men to be their slave - that's messed up. It was actually Hitler's favourite and was played a lot in his brainwashing campaigns as the way women should be to men!

Now frozen - that got me in feels. I was recently out of an abusive relationship and dear God - Ana was gaslighted by the narcissist Hans just like I had been. It was a real eye opener!

AbsolutelyPatsy · 04/05/2021 08:16

they did wake up to the sexism in Bond in the 80s i think

Sunnyday321 · 04/05/2021 08:24

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Michael Jackson and the boys who parents allowed them to have sleepovers and part time living at Neverland .

BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand · 04/05/2021 08:26

I wasn't comfortable with that at the time tbh.

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