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What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

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drinkingwineoutofamug · 01/05/2021 12:18

As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

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AutomaticMoon · 03/05/2021 00:26

I just realised these things don’t fit this thread because I was uncomfortable then too, but I think I only realised how bad they were later.

FortVictoria · 03/05/2021 00:31

@AutomaticMoon - so sorry this happened to you, especially at a time when you were vulnerable and needed love and support, not abuse, from the adults in your life Flowers

Luddite26 · 03/05/2021 00:48

Firstly i hate the song in the summertime by mungo jerry. I count this as the most misogynistic song.
Being illegitimate god knows what he could have done to me - no dad.
My mum never let us watch jim l fix it as in 1961 he used to pick up her best friend from their convent school in his rollsroyce .
God she hated him. And i did come across him in 2010 in the spinal unit at Pinderfields vile predatory man.

Last year when bobby ball died of covid i played the theme tune on spotify then sought out an episode of the cannon and ball show on youtube.
Oh my that Tommy cannon was disgusting. How was that ever entertainment?
I remember years ago him making me feel uncomfortable and bobby ball being the participant not the instigator.

The song relax never felt offensive as it was obviously about gay sex not some old age predator with young girls. Quite refreshing.

My mum never had Benny Hill on but used to say her work colleague's husband always made her have sex after Benny Hill. Yuk 8pm on a Monday night. Where were their four kids?

Men in their fifties who i look at and think over the hill they call me grandma and think they are in my daughters league! Yuk get to spec savers and have a reality check.

Bruce springsteen's i'm on fire - no excuses yuk.

Years of men lunging, perving and generally invading your space. The girls gym kit just not being about athletics but titavation. Communal showers after PE 1980s Noooo never again. Male pe teacher popping his head round to see if we were ok ye we were wonderful. Sent to prison - finally in 2010; for what being a sexual predator or having sex with young girls - didn't get very long - then his mates had a party for him on his release.

Parents not giving a fuck what predators were praying on us as long as they were having fun.

And Anime videos make me sick and anything of it's type.

Luddite26 · 03/05/2021 00:53

AutomaticMoon
I am so sorry to read your post. This thread is for people like us. Don't be sorry say what you want.

MouseholeCat · 03/05/2021 01:12

Pretty much all the Indiana Jones films. I remember watching one again a few years ago and being appalled by how overtly sexist and racist it was. I actually think it's unwatchable by today's standards.

The fact that everyone used "gay" as an insult or adjective for things that were bad in the 90's/early 00's. People would be really appalled if someone did that today.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 03/05/2021 01:17

@Sunnyday321 This is exactly what happened at my school from when I started to the end ofy GCSEs (‘93-‘98). The relief I felt when I started my A-Levels and no longer had to put up with this nonsense...

Luddite26 · 03/05/2021 01:24

So many paintings in the National Gallery. When i went last in 2019 compared to what we were taught at GCSE.
Many of those so called priceless paintings are so sickeningly rascist they need burning.

Rosehip10 · 03/05/2021 01:59

Noel's House Party.

Beelzebop · 03/05/2021 02:21

The first Midsomer Murders are really cringey!

everythingbackbutyou · 03/05/2021 02:38

@EineReiseDurchDieZeit, I watched Almost Famous again recently, and as a whole I love it. One thing that really stood out for me was when the band thought their plane was going down and everyone was blurting out confessions. It was a huge joke that one of the guys yelled "I'm gay" and then, when the plane didn't crash, it was treated as hilarious that he had said something so embarrassing and would have to live with it.

willowtree81 · 03/05/2021 04:57

Eating cheese. It's delicious and good for you, surely! Never gave it a second thought.

Found out what happens routinely in the dairy industry - OMG it's horrendous. 😭 calves brutally separated from mothers within hours of birth. Males often shot. Never again will I eat it. Also it's made from the breastmilk of another species- that's so weird! I realised I'd been taken in by an excellent advertising lie- that it's 'natural' and we need it. Madness.

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:29

@WhatTimeDoYouCallThis plenty of naked blokes in paintings, sculptures etc too so really don’t see your point there. Far better than the age of Instagram IMO...at least Botticelli et al were celebrating normal female bodies!

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:35

@Thants1 obviously I was not there and so cannot say what it really was but in France (and probably other countries) it is totally normal for sexually active women of any age to have a full gynaecological check every year, including breast examinations. Their parents are present until age 16 I think. But obviously you know if something else was afoot and I am so sorry if that was the case.

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:38

@Staffy1 indeed. They’re products of their time and comedically have stood the test of time for some good reasons.

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:42

@Frenchdressing again very normal in large French cities for kids to take the metro to and from school from not much older than 7. Definitely by age 10 they are. In the Netherlands, too, cycling to school on their own by age 10.

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:49

@QueenOfTheDoubleWide totally agree.

OldieButaGoodie · 03/05/2021 05:50

I was 15 when I left school (back in the 70's) and got a job in an office. There were so many creepy men back then, trying to kiss you, flicking your bra strap, making filthy comments etc, but if you complained "you've got no sense of humour" or "look at her over-reacting" and them all laughing at you, including other women. So I learned to just accept that's what being an adult in the workplace was like.

I had another big boss who did long boozy lunches and he was disgustingly drunk & leery when he got back to the office - to the point where my immediate boss would get out of the car first and quickly tell me to make myself scarce! Makes my skin crawl now, what we had to endure as young teenage girls in the workplace.

And to be honest, it's only since the beginning of this century that I've seen real change - still working in admin roles in an office.

Altho, I'm no spring chicken Wink .. and recently had a colleague in his probably mid-40's send me a work email and referred to me as "sweet cheeks" - I was horrified and when I raised it with my male colleagues, they laughed and said it was harmless - yeah, right, they all got a bullocking from me and a lesson is why I, or any other woman, DON'T have to put up with that shit in the workplace!!

Angelil · 03/05/2021 05:52

@MotherOfGodHoulYerWhisht fairly sure it’s “Every Breath You Take” that is based on a real experience and NOT “Don’t Stand So Close To Me”. Sting used to be an English teacher though so probably knew people just like the protagonist in that latter song.

OldieButaGoodie · 03/05/2021 05:56

@AutomaticMoon I'm also sorry you had to endure this as a child
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ToastofLandon · 03/05/2021 06:55

Early 2000s at my secondary school a teacher had an affair with a 6 form student. It made it into the newspapers because the teacher kept her job. No one seemed to have as much of an issue with it, presumably because they were both women and remained in a relationship once the student left school - think they got married. Looking back there was still about a 10 year age gap and it smacks of grooming to me.

Tara336 · 03/05/2021 07:12

An older colleague told me that when she first started work (in her fathers business) she was chased around a desk by a much a older man, this was considered something you had to put up with. I still feel shocked now when I think of that. Also as a young teen walking to meet friends and bracing myself as cars and lorries passed and would sound there horns and shout comments at you. I hated it. When I got into my 20s (more confident) and a lorry driver did it to me when I was at work walking through the car park. I challenged him about his behaviour, told him how it made me feel and what an absolute dick he was! I felt so much better and he look embarrassed and apologised

derxa · 03/05/2021 07:15

Growing up in the 60s and 70s I recognise a lot of these. However I'm happy I grew up then and not now.

Standrewsschool · 03/05/2021 07:23

@Everythingfromhome

'Porridge' gets of lightly when we do the revisionist thing of 70's T.V. programmes, incredibly racist to the character of McClaren, and homophobic to the character of Lukewarm.

Although it's not that old, I think the 'Big Bang Theory' is on very dodgy ground with it's treatment of the Indian character. It might be going for 'edgy', but it's just plain racist most of the time.

Away from that..I can't believe people used to smoke at their desk at work, and in the past 10 years I've noticed going for a drink at lunch in the middle of a working day has almost disappeared.

Re, Big Bang Theory - I’ve been uneasy about the comments made about Raj (and by him) as well. They definantly could be construed as racist.
Galdos · 03/05/2021 07:43

The past is a different country. A man I know told me that when he was 15 he and his 50 year old mother drove north, and stayed overnight at a motel somewhere near Leeds. The young female receptionist apologised for the fact the room only had single beds, not a double bed. It struck him as a strange thing to say at the time ...

Moonpeg · 03/05/2021 07:47

Like a virgin by Madonna. I used to sing to this as a child. Now as a 40 something grown women for some reason I get embarrassed when this comes on at work. Especially if I’m talking to the opposite sex. Silly I know

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