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Et tu Dominic? Political loyalty that didn’t last.,,

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VaVaGloom · 23/04/2021 19:57

So Johnson and Cummings are at each other’s throats. Anyone else think that it’s karma for them being such self serving, conniving, utter shit weasels last year? It’s so fitting that they are self destructing their own abominable empire.

United they stood, divided they fall.

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itsgettingwierd · 26/04/2021 15:59

@VaVaGloom

I might not have a cat in hells chance of seeing the whole picture but I knew that schools shouldn't be reopening in January with cases skyhigh. I had nothing to gain from them being closed and had to face the homsechooling / home working scenario again - but knew it was necessary. Heck, even my primary school aged child could see it coming!

No-one's saying his time as PM has been easy but throughout his life Johnson has left a trail of sleaze and mistakes behind him. Now his old partner in crime is spilling the beans but no-ones surprised at what they are hearing as it's typical Johnson behaviour.

I note he's still carrying his A4 pad around which we used to joke carried his secrets on the inside - perhaps there is real truth in it?!
noblegiraffe · 26/04/2021 16:05

I still cannot understand to this day why they ignored the data on children for so long

Maybe UsforThem offered to pay for his flat refurbishment.

And that sort of speculation is exactly why Johnson should have not been soliciting donor money for his personal gain. There's no such thing as a free flat refurbishment.

noblegiraffe · 26/04/2021 16:08

And stop with the 'thousand of bodies piling up" - using today's headlines for yesterday's news

But mismanagement of covid spread (as in the situation with schools which were recklessly reopened with no safety measures) led to thousands of unnecessary deaths. That's the point.

52andblue · 26/04/2021 16:49

@QwertyGirly

To me, Johnson being torn apart because of the flatgate affair is a bit like Al Capone being imprisoned because of tax evasion and not because he murdered hundreds of people. Johnson is at the head of a deeply corrupt government, and his decisions (or lack of) has caused thousands of deaths.
This, exactly. But if it damages his credibility enough it gets him out... Question is: would Gove be worse, or just differently awful?
noblegiraffe · 26/04/2021 16:54

Gove and Johnson are both extremely smooth liars with no morals willing to throw the country under the bus for their own ends and not averse to twisting the law. Gove probably won’t be shagging his ‘IT advisor’ though.

newnortherner111 · 26/04/2021 17:02

Mr Johnson appointed Mr Cummings. Mr Johnson sacked him, admittedly after he was rude about Mr Johnson's fiancee and most people after such a remark would probably do the same.

However, if it harms Mr Johnson, and Mr Cummings is telling the truth, no sympathy.

jgw1 · 26/04/2021 17:15

[quote CuriousaboutSamphire]@noblegiraffe I wasn't. I was just holding them up as an example of another confounding factor, one that has routinely been mentioned across MN and nobody seems to have looked at the data on infection by job. Where it was factory workers who were amongst the highest risk of catching covid.

There are many factors and no one piece of data will ever be the sole reason for a policy change.

I'm just trying to make peole see that whatever they post as a fact in this can be countered because of the complexity and interralated nature of any procedures and changes.

The whole picture, as I tried to explain, requires very many indiciduals feeding into a number of organisations that in turn independently feed into SAGE etc.

No one poster here has a cat on hell's chance of seeing that whole picture![/quote]
What has certainly become abundantly clear is that Johnson is incapable of seeing the whole picture and is only interested in feathering his and his sleazy cronies nests.

jgw1 · 26/04/2021 17:22

@noblegiraffe

Gove and Johnson are both extremely smooth liars with no morals willing to throw the country under the bus for their own ends and not averse to twisting the law. Gove probably won’t be shagging his ‘IT advisor’ though.
Does the bus say £350million a week on the NHS on it?
lolaflores · 26/04/2021 17:50

The Human League Hit comes to mind
"You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you..."
DC has the goods in all of them.
He is a bitter little sod with nothing to lose and that is a very dangerous combo.
He probably has someone in the shadows supporting And he is just loving the spotlight on him, the fear he is creating in some places and he really wants the whole lot to go up and e standing in the smoking ruins.
However...I think he is being someone elses little bitch...

gogglebox · 26/04/2021 18:07

@noblegiraffe

Gove and Johnson are both extremely smooth liars with no morals willing to throw the country under the bus for their own ends and not averse to twisting the law. Gove probably won’t be shagging his ‘IT advisor’ though.
There's rumours Gove's shagging a female tory MP though...
noblegiraffe · 26/04/2021 18:11

I take it back then. Nothing between them. They're like Colin and Cuthbert if Colin and Cuthbert were both made of shit.

longwayoff · 26/04/2021 18:28

gogglebox there's a quite alarming John Majorish flavour to your last remark. The wrath of Lady MacGove would be something to behold.

TheSandman · 26/04/2021 19:10

There's rumours...

Spread, no doubt, by the Johnsonistas with the hint of full disclosure "unless"...

ancientgran · 26/04/2021 19:20

@jgw1

In a few conversations I have had with people in the last week who previously couldn't understand why I wasn't a fan of Boris I have noticed their views changing.

Maybe the mud is starting to stick.

I've had the same or people just going quiet.

I think the mud is starting to stick and although DC isn't above lying he is being clear he is happy to hand in his phone showing what was said. He will have documents as well.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 26/04/2021 19:58

He has to have taken some documents, he’d have been mad not to. Not least because he’ll need some leverage to prevent people releasing too much about what he was up to with Vote Leave & when in Downing Street.

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VaVaGloom · 26/04/2021 20:34

Rafals, it being Cummings he probably took the Trident codes & Bojo won't have noticed

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itsgettingwierd · 26/04/2021 21:46

@noblegiraffe

I take it back then. Nothing between them. They're like Colin and Cuthbert if Colin and Cuthbert were both made of shit.
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anyone else find it most ironic that RoseGardenGate we were told how uncomfortable he felt as he hates being in media spotlight.

Now he's dancing on stage with a whole host of lights in him - and loving it

longwayoff · 27/04/2021 06:33

£58k for your No 11 sitting room to be kitted out in the style of a 1970s Indian restaurant? Tory donors, you've been doubly diddled. Stick to John Lewis in future.

CovidCorvid · 27/04/2021 06:43

@longwayoff

£58k for your No 11 sitting room to be kitted out in the style of a 1970s Indian restaurant? Tory donors, you've been doubly diddled. Stick to John Lewis in future.
The daily Mail did a side by side photo shoot of two living room sets. One using the designer Carrie used, all done like the Downing Street flat. Then a John Lewis copy version which looked very similar and came in under 10k!
HarveySchlumpfenburger · 27/04/2021 08:15

They managed to spend 2.3 million in that room for press conferences so 58k on the living room doesn’t surprise me.

longwayoff · 27/04/2021 08:25

I hope you're not suggesting that PM and his prospective wife make do with a cheapo version of their lovely home? Only the best and most expensive for them. Especially if someone else is paying. Have to confess, the thought of B paying his own money for something does give me a warm glow. For those of you old enough, this reminds me of the Hamiltons plundering Harrods.

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VaVaGloom · 27/04/2021 09:06

They managed to spend 2.3 million in that room for press conferences

Kitted out for the US style daily briefings with the PMs spokesperson that they no longer plan to hold. Paid a Russian company to do the 2million pound refit so didn’t even channel the taxpayers money into our own economy.

Allegra Stratton the PMs spokesperson recruited to hold the now defunct briefings is still on the public payroll though (as they’ve made her spokesperson for a summit).

Whatever happened to austerity? Johnson seems to haemorrhage money.

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longwayoff · 27/04/2021 09:17

Of course he does. It's not his money but it is his in the sense that he can "spaff it up the wall" as and when he chooses. Garden Bridge. Jennifer Arcuri. Briefing Room. Sitting Room. Mates Rates at the Treasury. Etc. He will hold the record for largest amount of public money wasted on pointless vanity projects. Reminds me of that chap in, I think, Turkmenistan who has a statue of himself on every corner, demanded by a grateful public. It's where we're heading.

Onlinedilema · 27/04/2021 12:51

I’d love to know the exact words DC said about CS.

Miasicarisatia · 27/04/2021 13:13

There's rumours Gove's shagging a female tory MP though
Uuurgghhh
How could anyone have sex with Gove with his big fleshy lady's bottom 😳