Page 4 | Do you think that Fergie and Prince Andrew will get remarried now?

Kaptain · 2021-04-17T07:44:34+00:00

Prince Phillip couldn't stand Fergie --don't blame him-- but now that he has died the way is clear. It could be a new start for both of them - she's sorted out her debts and clattery lifestyle, and he needs a big PR win. Just wondering...

LadyIsabellaWrotham · 17/04/2021 18:30

It seems pretty well evidenced that Diana went into the marriage in good faith while Charles was at the very least in the throes of what MN would label an emotional affair with Camilla from their engagement onwards.

TowandaForever · 17/04/2021 18:40

Question.

They live together but is it platonic or are they in a relationship?

ancientgran · 17/04/2021 18:43

@LadyIsabellaWrotham

It seems pretty well evidenced that Diana went into the marriage in good faith while Charles was at the very least in the throes of what MN would label an emotional affair with Camilla from their engagement onwards.

I think Charles was probably in love with Camilla but don't know what evidence there is that he was in any sort of affair from his engagement onwards.

If you listen to gossip Diana had decided she wanted to marry him before they met. Not sure if that is a healthy start to a relationship.

At the end of the day neither of them were happy in their marriage, a dignified divorce would certainly have been better for them and even more so for their children. It is little wonder Harry has MH issues when you think how he must have felt at her televised disclosures and the leaked tapes of her and one of her love interests and Charles and Camilla.

Horrible for the kids, particularly when it was done deliberately. Whatever else went on, and lets face it it was a classic he says she says with a side order of what everyone else said, I thought her interview was a horrific thing for a mother to do. Charles did a follow up. Poor kids.

diddl · 17/04/2021 18:43

@TowandaForever

Question.

They live together but is it platonic or are they in a relationship?

Oh goodness.

How happy I would have been never to have read that!

Why would you want to know?

Maggiesfarm · 17/04/2021 18:47

We could ask them I suppose.

Dear Duchess, do you and the Duke ever......?

Maybe not.

I reckon they do sometimes but I have no knowledge from insiders and if I did I would keep it to myself.

minniemomo · 17/04/2021 18:47

Why would they bother marrying, it's not the 1950's! If they are in that kind of relationship (nobody knows here) then there's still no reason to actually remarry. They have lived in the same property though I doubt they are short of space!

ancientgran · 17/04/2021 18:50

Maybe it is financial? Sometimes people do it for tax reasons or pension reasons. He might think she will be short of money if he dies.

I've no idea if she is wealthy or not so might be irrelevant but it is the reason a couple I know decided to remarry late in life.

Maggiesfarm · 17/04/2021 18:55

ancientgran: If you listen to gossip Diana had decided she wanted to marry him before they met. Not sure if that is a healthy start to a relationship.
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Though it probably seems strange, lots of girls said the same thing at that time. Prince Charles was actually quite a pin up. I can't see it myself but it is a fact.

Later on it was Prince William whom girls wanted to marry.

The Prince Harry.

Prince Charles was certainly in love with Camilla and carried on the relationship regardless of Diana. Camilla was in love with Andrew Parker Bowles and then in love with him and the Prince of Wales. She was quite predatory when it came to Charles.

Charles could have married Camila when they were both early twenties, nobody could have stopped him, not even the men in suits, his grandmother and great uncle.

Had he married Camilla we would have had a different version of William and Harry and....Camilla could have had a long term affair with Andrew Parker-Bowles. Instead it all happened the other way around.

They are two old people now and seem happy enough. Parker-Bowles is a good friend.

Arbadacarba · 17/04/2021 18:56

No, I think that ship has sailed.

LaurieFairyCake · 17/04/2021 19:00

I like her very much

But he's fucking toxic now. Even if he didn't 'do' anything, his behaviour NOW smacks of entitlement and complete whinging

I really dislike who he is now, refusing to be interviewed and what looks like lying about the 'sweating'

Bakeachocolatecake2day · 17/04/2021 19:02

@ancientgran

No I don't think it is all right because it was the love of his life but the fact remains he had one relationship while married, Diana had more. Can't remember them all now but there was the army chap who some people think is Harry's dad, then there was the heart surgeon, the art dealer, the protection officer. Who cheated first? I don't know and neither does anyone else.

There are rumours it was Diana that was first to cheat, in the belief Charles was cheating she started the affair with Hewitt....which in turn caused Charles to see Camilla....

MargosKaftan · 17/04/2021 19:04

Prince Charles was dating Diana's sister when he met Diana and he dumped her to date Diana. But you know, she was all innocent and surprised he was a wrong 'un...

DenisetheMenace · 17/04/2021 19:04

The woman has no doubt made bad choices but it’s pretty clear she loves her girls.

If my ex-H had been accused of what he’s been accused of (and was allegedly doing while his girls were young teens) he wouldn’t get within an injunction of them if I could help it.

Yes I know, they’re adults, their choice, he’s their dad and I’m sure they love him but I certainly wouldn’t do anything whatsoever to boost his credibility.

occa · 17/04/2021 19:14

@MargosKaftan

Prince Charles was dating Diana's sister when he met Diana and he dumped her to date Diana. But you know, she was all innocent and surprised he was a wrong 'un...

Sort of but not exactly. He was under loads of pressure to marry and had approached Diana's sister as being a possible suitable and 'RFapproved' wife but she wasn't interested. Diana was on board with the idea and her family pushed for it.

Maggiesfarm · 17/04/2021 19:25

occa has it right. Charles didn't dump Sarah Spencer, they went out for a while but she wasn't interested in being the royal bride, she wanted to marry someone she really loved who loved her.

It was quite a while later that he started 'courting' Diana.

Yes there was pressure on him to find a suitable woman to marry. The powers that be (not his mother), did not consider Camilla to be suitable but he could have gone against them. However that was a good few years before he got together with Diana and he had Camilla, or rather she had him, on the side after she was married; when he married they had each other on the side.

How did we get from the Yorks to Charles/Diana/Camilla?

KillingMeDeftly · 17/04/2021 19:31

diddl · 17/04/2021 19:36

"It was quite a while later that he started 'courting' Diana."

Supposedly they first met in 1977 when she was 16 (he 29)& he was seeing her sister.

Then in 1980 they met again & he took an interest in her.

Sounds a bit bleurgh to me but I think similar ages to her parents when they married?

TowandaForever · 17/04/2021 19:39

@diddl

Surely if it's just platonic they won't be thinking about marriage?! That's why I asked / speculated.

AngeloMysterioso · 17/04/2021 20:13

I thought it was generally assumed that A&F are in a romantic relationship?

Maggiesfarm · 17/04/2021 20:21

@AngeloMysterioso

I thought it was generally assumed that A&F are in a romantic relationship?

Could be. They certainly think a lot of each other.

The problem earlier in their marriage was due to his naval career which he loved and at which he was very successful but it meant he was away for long periods. Not everyone is cut out to be a military wife and she wasn't.

However that was a long time ago. Neither of them have been really interested in anyone else since and they brought up their children together, even going away regularly on holiday as a family when the girls were young.

They might be happy with things staying as they are, they do live under the same roof after all.

Justajot · 17/04/2021 20:30

If he dies, does she get to stay in the house? Is it his or the Queen's?

Banville · 17/04/2021 21:03

He probably would marry her again if he thought it would rehabilitate his tattered reputation. Desperate creep.

THisbackwithavengeance · 17/04/2021 21:37

I have no strong feelings either way for Prince Andrew but I was sceptical from Day 1 about VR's allegations. I think she has made a lot of money out of these allegations and that clouds my judgement of her.

I actually don't particularly care if she slept with PA or not and this whole nonsense I read on here and on SM about PA being a "nonce" or a "paedophile" makes me want to tell people to educate themselves about the definition of those words.

Sleeping with a 17 year old is not illegal. It might make you sleazy or predatory if you are older than, say 30 but not a paedophile.

It is strange I suppose that neither PA or SF remarried and I can't remember either of them being in a serious relationship with anyone else post divorce.

KillingMeDeftly · 17/04/2021 21:39

Sleeping with a 17yo isn't illegal but sleeping with a woman who's been trafficked, regardless of her age, is.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 17/04/2021 21:50

He wouldn't propose because he knew his Dad would say no. I heard a rumour some years ago that they might get married after his Dad died.

They would have to do it whilst the Queen was still on the throne. He won't want to go cap-in-hand to his brother, Charles to ask permission to marry Fergie when Charles is King.

Andrew better capitalise on his, 'love child' status if he still has it.