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“Eight days of national mourning”

217 replies

Susie477 · 10/04/2021 17:14

Have been announced by the government, leading up to DofE’s funeral next Saturday.

WTF is that supposed to mean? Do we all have to wear black? Are jokes banned and comedians interned? Are radio stations not allowed to play ‘shiny happy people’?

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QueenOfTheDoubleWide · 10/04/2021 21:46

@Isolatedizzy

I agree!

JohnLeeCooker I don't think Queen is saying that at all!
And I would have more respect if people were posting from. Republican point of view! Lots of posts on this thread seem to be from 'the not having a clue how the Country works' point of view!

@JohnLeeCooker - I was not posting about Republican ideals at all just about ignorance and nastiness
SaltyAF · 10/04/2021 21:48

In reality I don't think eight days of mourning will make the blindest bit of difference to anyone's life, thus underlining the irrelevance of monarchy.

Isolatedizzy · 10/04/2021 21:55

@user1495884673

Isolatedizzy

We really do need a republic and a proper constitution. We had the situation last year of BJ being in intensive care and there being no official second in command and thankfully him not being so sick that he couldn't tell Dom he was in charge. Now things are up in the air because the Queen is in mourning. And actually, who takes 8 days off when their spouse dies? Everyone I know of working age who has lost a spouse has been signed off for some time. Are we really expecting a woman in her 90s to get back to rubber-stamping duty a week after her husband dies? We need a head of state and a deputy who can take over if they are incapacitated.

Today isn't,as far as I'm concerned, the day to get into a discussion about whether we become a Republic or not!
TracyBeakerSoYeah · 10/04/2021 21:55

[quote Ted27]@user1495884673

I think you and some others need a basic lesson in how government works.
Parliament does not pass umpteen laws everyday so civil servants know what to do
Me and every other civil servant and local govt worker will be working as usual, getting the country open again, the vacination programme and all the rest of it is not stopping. I work in the Covid emergency response in my dept, we are not waiting on any legislation
There will be no political campaigning, the Queen will not be getting red boxes.
Other than that business as usual, unless you are involved in the funeral arrangements.[/quote]
I honestly despair sometimes about how the general public's level of intelligence has fallen since the internet arrived & probably more damaging when social media appeared.
It seems that fewer folk are thinking & more folk are coming across as thick as mince these days.

As @Ted27 & pp's write the country IS NOT shutting down for 8 days simply the Queen will be excused (rightly so) from work i.e. no red red boxes & documents to sign off, & there will be no new laws passed in those 8 days.

user1495884673 · 10/04/2021 21:56

@Ted27 I think we are talking at cross purposes. I think you are talking about the everyday running of the country and I don't think anyone has suggested that this will be affected by national mourning. I am talking about the leadership of the country, debating and making new legislation and the visible leadership via press conferences etc by our elected representatives.

user1495884673 · 10/04/2021 21:59

8 days simply the Queen will be excused (rightly so) from work i.e. no red red boxes & documents to sign off, & there will be no new laws passed in those 8 days.

And I say it again, 8 days off is piss-poor for a woman in her nineties who has lost her spouse. You lot saying, oh we'll manage for 8 days, she should be getting more than 8 days off. It's ridiculous.

1forAll74 · 10/04/2021 22:01

The DUKE would not have liked all this faff after his death, he was a modest man, despite being a royal. Prince Charles said the very same thing about his Father, that he was realistic and didn't like any fuss about being the person he was.

GlutenFreeGingerCake · 10/04/2021 22:02

One thing I did agree with was the request that someone who wanted to show respect could make a donation to one of the Duke 's favourite charities rather than leave flowers. It seems a lot more what he would have wanted and avoids crowds when we are supposed to be social distancing. So this is a good idea.

user1495884673 · 10/04/2021 22:10

Today isn't,as far as I'm concerned, the day to get into a discussion about whether we become a Republic or not!

I was responding to your post about people coming at this from a republican point of view. Confused

worriedatthemoment · 10/04/2021 22:20

@GlutenFreeGingerCake yes very much so
Much better to go to charities

Isolatedizzy · 10/04/2021 22:29

@user1495884673

Today isn't,as far as I'm concerned, the day to get into a discussion about whether we become a Republic or not!

I was responding to your post about people coming at this from a republican point of view. Confused

Yep! And I respect that you are posting with a Republican point of view rather than a WTF point of view!

That doesn't mean that I want to have that discussion today though!

LittleOverwhelmed · 10/04/2021 22:33

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RiverSkater · 10/04/2021 22:54

Ridiculous. Especially given lots of people died this year who shouldn't have. 😟

ineedaholidaynow · 10/04/2021 23:00

@RiverSkater how is it going to impact you?

applecatchers36 · 10/04/2021 23:20

It affects all of us given the complete media take over last night and even today everything else pushed aside, parts of Northern Ireland are burning but we have wall to wall PP homages. It is not proportionate and out of sync with the reality of what is going on for most of the population during the pandemic.
To people concerned with protocol it is a pretty weak position, if the monarchy is going to survive it needs to be responsive and able to move with the times.

mustlovegin · 10/04/2021 23:21

What a disrespectful thread!

therestissilence · 10/04/2021 23:34

For those suggesting that the government has stopped working for a week: get a grip and stop being so naive. Of course they are still working - we just have the pleasure of not having to listen to their bollocky bullshit for a whole week. It just might do the country, and the government (who might be able to focus on results rather than propaganda), some good.

therestissilence · 10/04/2021 23:35

@mustlovegin

What a disrespectful thread!
Agree!
MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 10/04/2021 23:48

Aw diddums, it's disrespectful.
I have just enjoyed reading the BBCs article on his life, and that suggestion upthread about having his charities to donate to is good. Another idea might have been to have a national period of mourning for all victims of the current crisis at the same time - as far as I know he didn't die of it, but it would acknowledge the background and the losses of all. For the rest of it, the royal family is not really very relevant to the rest of us, and the scale of it at this time, along with the usual relative scale of luxury, is too much. That is what is disrespectful.

Gilead · 10/04/2021 23:48

It’s precedent, we don’t have a constitution.

Thewithesarehere · 10/04/2021 23:56

People are angry and upset and this mourning has completely missed that mood.

It leaves a bad taste in mouth when you think that so many of those 100,000 deaths were untimely, with people dying some, and we are mourning for someone who lived like a prince.

PickleKid · 11/04/2021 00:08

Government is still working. Civil servants aren't off. No laws are being passed and no social media (except for urgent situations, but not general comms if that makes sense).

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/04/2021 00:41

@Thewithesarehere

People are angry and upset and this mourning has completely missed that mood.

It leaves a bad taste in mouth when you think that so many of those 100,000 deaths were untimely, with people dying some, and we are mourning for someone who lived like a prince.

Exactly. It's not feeling that PP shouldn't be mourned by his family, it's feeling that if there are minutes of silence, flags at half mast and black armbands, they should be for the 127,000 dead recently before their time.
Theunamedcat · 11/04/2021 00:59

Ffs covid isn't over Germany has been told to prepare for it to last two years as far as they are concerned we are only halfway through why are we supposed to mourn now? it isn't over yet hopefully it will be soon but bitching and whining a woman in her 90s cannot work after losing her husband is spiteful because all the flags flying half mast and people wearing black doesnt effect ANYONE the only thing that might effect people is the queen taking a week off