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“Eight days of national mourning”

217 replies

Susie477 · 10/04/2021 17:14

Have been announced by the government, leading up to DofE’s funeral next Saturday.

WTF is that supposed to mean? Do we all have to wear black? Are jokes banned and comedians interned? Are radio stations not allowed to play ‘shiny happy people’?

OP posts:
ineedaholidaynow · 10/04/2021 19:17

Parliament is being recalled a day early from Easter recess on Monday. We seemed to have coped okay whilst they have been on holiday.

Mollymalone123 · 10/04/2021 19:19

Exactly @lockheart - there’s some much vitriol towards an elderly family who died and a man a family has lost-

A lot of people on Mumsnet has been truly awful in what they have painted. Would people be so mean in real life?

WitchisDead · 10/04/2021 19:19

To a pp, I do put my effort into positive action. On a local scale, in a career spent as an education/community worker and on a wider scale in personal support of the Scottish independence movement. Can't speak on behalf of anyone else though and I don't feel the need to question how people spend their time when not on MN.

No one denies he had a difficult start in life (of course his connections and quality of life a few short years later hardly tell the every-man story). But equally no one can deny he had an extremely privileged death because, let's face it, this past year unattainable privilege to some is just dying with a loved one at your side.

TheMarzipanDildo · 10/04/2021 19:19

I find both the performative mourning of people that didn’t know him AND the performative ‘good riddance’ cynicism of others irritating.

jessstan2 · 10/04/2021 19:20

It will make no difference to us so why worry?

MrsKingfisher · 10/04/2021 19:21

I sometimes wonder if those who show a complete lack of respect for a persons death have ever suffered loss. I can imagine that the Queen is utterly devastated and mourning her husband and the nation sharing that is a mark of respect for both her and Prince Philip.

The government stopping working for 8 days won't impact the majority and everyone will carry on as normal. Except for the Queen and her family.

Can't people just show some empathy regardless if you're a royalist or not?

itsgettingwierd · 10/04/2021 19:22

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Everyone knew it would mean national mourning for months as we've watched him get iller

Who is everyone? Is this assumed knowledge?

One would assume that living in a country with a Monarchy and knowing they die in old age and it would be a big deal - if people actually wanted to know what would happen they'd look it up.

And if they couldn't be bothered to learn why all the nasty posts about it happening as if it's a surprise?

itsgettingwierd · 10/04/2021 19:25

@ineedaholidaynow

I assume apart from flags at half mast national mourning is really not going to impact many people. It will be mainly the Queen and the rest of the family.

Boris won’t be doing any visits, so not sure how many people will be devastated by that. No councillors knocking on your door re May elections.

Precisely.

All the frothing is just so dramatic 🤣

I especially love the complaint about the birthday being in a period of national mourning - when it has bugger all effect on what they can do!

user1495884673 · 10/04/2021 19:27

One would assume that living in a country with a Monarchy and knowing they die in old age and it would be a big deal - if people actually wanted to know what would happen they'd look it up.

The monarch is still alive.

littlepattilou · 10/04/2021 19:28

Agree with a few others on here, some posters are being so nasty.

FFS, have some respect Hmm

You can bet these same posters preach the hideous #bekind mantra all the time too.

itsgettingwierd · 10/04/2021 19:30

@user1495884673

One would assume that living in a country with a Monarchy and knowing they die in old age and it would be a big deal - if people actually wanted to know what would happen they'd look it up.

The monarch is still alive.

But your reading skills aren't.

I said living in a country with a monarchy and if one of them died.

I actually didn't say the Monarch - PP is a member and has died.

People are so determined to froth they can't even read and doesn't and understand.

Isn't a good look people Wink

littlepattilou · 10/04/2021 19:30

@Mollymalone123

Exactly *@lockheart* - there’s some much vitriol towards an elderly family who died and a man a family has lost-

A lot of people on Mumsnet has been truly awful in what they have painted. Would people be so mean in real life?

Sadly I am not surprised. There are some really unpleasant posters on here.

Some posters I knew were like that, but some are showing their true colours since Prince Philip died. There's even a handful of them creeping onto the Nikki Grahame thread. Horrible.

Feelinghothothottoday · 10/04/2021 19:35

@MrsKingfisher

I sometimes wonder if those who show a complete lack of respect for a persons death have ever suffered loss. I can imagine that the Queen is utterly devastated and mourning her husband and the nation sharing that is a mark of respect for both her and Prince Philip.

The government stopping working for 8 days won't impact the majority and everyone will carry on as normal. Except for the Queen and her family.

Can't people just show some empathy regardless if you're a royalist or not?

Yes my mother died at 48. Dying at 99 is completely different. At some stage we all die and I think 99 it is reasonable to expect it. His children and family were extremely lucky to have him around for so long in their lives.

We are developing a very strange view of death in this country. We expect people to live for ever.

Theunamedcat · 10/04/2021 19:40

@user1495884673

This is a time when the country needs leadership. I appreciate that the Queen is in mourning and she is not much more than a figurehead but the government should be continuing with business as usual.
They are she just won't be signing off on any new laws she doesn't actually need to sign off on all of them and seriously? Can she not mourn her husband
DelBocaVista · 10/04/2021 19:43

I think 99 it is reasonable to expect it. His children and family were extremely lucky to have him around for so long in their lives.

People can still be sad at losing an elderly relative.
My mum died very young but that doesn't mean I have more right to grieve than those who've lost elderly parents.
Some people have a real lack of compassion.

WitchisDead · 10/04/2021 19:43

I've never told another adult to be kind. In my experience, it's just a way of telling women to put up and shut up.
Everyone is equally entitled to their own views. Personally, I see lots on MN I disagree with but have never questioned anyone's right to actually say it.

MrsKingfisher · 10/04/2021 19:46

Oh I see @Feelinghothothottoday because he was 99 his family are meant to say 'well he was old and we expected it so business as usual?'

A loss is a loss regardless of age, I too lost my mum but I don't believe because she was young her death trumps someone else who was much older. It's absolutely fine that the Queen is given time to mourn by not signing off any new laws. Have some compassion.

elizabethdraper · 10/04/2021 19:49

@mooonstone

oh great, my birthday was supposed to be lockdown free but now it falls in the national mourning period
Please explain how exactly your birthday is going to be effected by flags flying at half mast and the government while working are not passing/change laws ?????/
Feelinghothothottoday · 10/04/2021 19:51

@MrsKingfisher

Oh I see *@Feelinghothothottoday* because he was 99 his family are meant to say 'well he was old and we expected it so business as usual?'

A loss is a loss regardless of age, I too lost my mum but I don't believe because she was young her death trumps someone else who was much older. It's absolutely fine that the Queen is given time to mourn by not signing off any new laws. Have some compassion.

If you read my post you will see I was responding to another poster who mentioned that anyone who disagrees with 8 days of mourning had not suffered a loss.

We get 5 days compassionate leave at work for the loss of a parent. The queen is perfectly entitled to mourn for as long as she wants.

MoiraNotRuby · 10/04/2021 19:55

How many laws normally get passed in 8 days anyway? I don't feel like it's a major issue to give the Queen bereavement leave, which seems to be what this amounts to. Surely once she is back at 'work' she just has a few more things to sign than usual? Plus there are some flags flying at half mast, which isn't any bother to anyone else is it.

Aardvarkitsabloodyaardvark · 10/04/2021 19:57

Wow I'm shocked at the level of intelligence of some people.

Do the posters ranting about his privileged life...do some reading ffs and not the tabloids.
The same people moaning about the tabloids slagging Harry yet believing every detail on Philip. Hmm

Teddyandsuzie · 10/04/2021 20:04

I sometimes wonder if those who show a complete lack of respect for a persons death have ever suffered loss. I can imagine that the Queen is utterly devastated and mourning her husband and the nation sharing that is a mark of respect for both her and Prince Philip.

The government stopping working for 8 days won't impact the majority and everyone will carry on as normal. Except for the Queen and her family.

Can't people just show some empathy regardless if you're a royalist or not?

^^ This 100%

user1495884673 · 10/04/2021 20:08

*But your reading skills aren't.

I said living in a country with a monarchy and if one of them died.

I actually didn't say the Monarch - PP is a member and has died.*

No, I don't understand. A monarchy is a country with a monarch as head of state, mono meaning one.

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ImpatiensI · 10/04/2021 20:11

The government stopping working for 8 days won't impact the majority and everyone will carry on as normal

I understand and respect a need for mourning but this isn't normal times and the goverment needs to be present, visible and accountable. Mourning can still happen, whatever way people choose to do it.