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Prince Philip has died

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YellowPurple · 09/04/2021 12:06

He died this morning

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Jurassicperk · 09/04/2021 14:34

The irony talking about disproportionate reactions!

I agree @also so much fawning over someone so privileged with no regard for anyone else who was different in any way. The gall of showing the wealth off at visits to charities then being chauffeured back to their palaces to escape the great unwashed.

Tealightsandd · 09/04/2021 14:34

Some times more than others it feels appropriate to go by the If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all maxim.

wheresmymojo · 09/04/2021 14:35

[quote Jurassicperk]@Mugginyouleftrightandcentre

No, why should I? Why should I have any compassion for a family that's been directly responsible for the invasion and destruction in so many places in the name of empire?

Laugh if you like, however, I don't think I'm more enlightened than anyone else. But having spent a career working in communities and having spent a life as a disabled, mixed race person, my feelings are completely valid when seeing how something like racism matters so little just because the person is now dead.[/quote]
Eh?

The Royal Family of today have nothing to do with the empire or invasion or destruction.

Mostly because they weren't alive when the vast majority of it happened and for the bits they were alive for - they are figureheads. Decisions are made by the Govt so this makes zero logical sense.

DoubleTweenQueen · 09/04/2021 14:37

@TempsPerdu I saw the post on their FB page - does seem to be a very poor decision on the part of the RHS. I wonder who made the call?

TempsPerdu · 09/04/2021 14:38

@Cornettoninja I’ll be angry about whatever I like if it’s all the same with you. On a micro level I’m angry about my SIL’s day being ruined, especially given that it was a long-awaited treat after a very dark year for our family. Extrapolating from that, I’m also angry on behalf of all those who have been thrown out, as there will have been many others for whom today was the first get together with relatives etc after the shitfest that has been Covid.

And on a macro level I’m angry about the RHS’s decision to close, the unavoidable wall to wall coverage on every possible media outlet and the massive current trend towards groupthink and conformity that assumes everyone is of the same mind and feels the same way. It’s part of a bigger overall picture and it’s one I really don’t like.

WeekendCEO · 09/04/2021 14:38

I really wish MNHQ would zap this thread. It’s a horrible reflection of our society.

It reflects people’s views. Some are sad, some only feel sad for the family, some want to mention his past racism etc. To only mention the good bits of someone when they die is strange, especially when there’s things like racism involved. People won’t let things like that go unsaid, nor should they have to.

RickiTarr · 09/04/2021 14:39

@WeekendCEO

Does every second RIP thread have to become a punch up?

RIP thread? Condolence thread? Nope. Still not seeing how a thread in chat where OP offered no condolences, just stated he’d died and later left a link can be categorised as this. You don’t get to control the thread I’m afraid.

You know that thing when deaths are announced and everyone responds differently, but respectfully, at least for the first day?

You don’t have to like someone to refrain from dancing on their grave.

HypocriteHunter · 09/04/2021 14:39

The irony talking about disproportionate reactions!

Isn’t it though?

A day

jessstan2 · 09/04/2021 14:39

[quote Jurassicperk]@YetAnotherSpartacus

Bit of an overreaction considering I didn't wish anyone an unpeaceful or distressing death or period of mourning.

Excuse me for not participating in the competitive mourning and "race to the bottom" about how sad it apparently is.

He died at home, surrounded by family after a long life of the best care and privilege. That's infintely more than most can say. Take one look at the other threads on here of parents, spouses, partners etc. dying completely alone because of Covid. I won't apologise for having some perspective.[/quote]
Go away Jurassic. There is no 'competitive mourning'. Plenty of people die at home with their family around them, or even alone at home if they 'go off 'quietly in their sleep (something we all hope for I imagine). However someone dies they may be missed by their nearest and dearest, if they have any, and will be mourned, unless they were horrible tyrants.

Prince Philip lived to be very old and was in good shape for most of his life, that is something for which to be thankful but his family will miss him. They will move on of course because an old person dying is a normal event.

The remaining elderly people in the royal family will be ever more aware of their own mortality at this time but their lives will go on until their time is up.

There's no need for anyone to become defensive about this. It's all part of history after all.

TempsPerdu · 09/04/2021 14:39

And the insistence by some that this is and should only be allowed to be a ‘condolences’ thread is exactly what I’m uncomfortable with.

Jurassicperk · 09/04/2021 14:40

@wheresmymojo

Even if that was true, there's certainly no mention of the wrongs committed in the name of queen/king and country in the all too recent past. No apology.
They still give out awards in the name of empire, which attention starved celebrities are all too happy to accept. The empire is still seen as something to be proud of. Members of the firm still visit 'commonwealth' countries to remind citizen's of their place. Take a look at the thread in Active about the resurgence of violence in NI. Can't say the royal family of today have nothing to do with any of that.

HypocriteHunter · 09/04/2021 14:40

Apologies. Posted accidentally.

A day out cancelled.

Someone’s husband of 73 years dying.

Disproportionate indeed.

Cactus1982 · 09/04/2021 14:42

[quote TempsPerdu]@Cornettoninja I’ll be angry about whatever I like if it’s all the same with you. On a micro level I’m angry about my SIL’s day being ruined, especially given that it was a long-awaited treat after a very dark year for our family. Extrapolating from that, I’m also angry on behalf of all those who have been thrown out, as there will have been many others for whom today was the first get together with relatives etc after the shitfest that has been Covid.

And on a macro level I’m angry about the RHS’s decision to close, the unavoidable wall to wall coverage on every possible media outlet and the massive current trend towards groupthink and conformity that assumes everyone is of the same mind and feels the same way. It’s part of a bigger overall picture and it’s one I really don’t like.[/quote]
Oh give it a rest, it’s been a shit year for everyone. Your SIL doesn’t trump everyone else.

wheresmymojo · 09/04/2021 14:42

And on a macro level I’m angry about the RHS’s decision to close, the unavoidable wall to wall coverage on every possible media outlet

I mean...one might think the world isn't set up specifically to cater to you.

The majority are interested, hence the media coverage.

The fact that you aren't is neither here nor there.

If you're so uninterested I don't get why you're wasting your day posting about it?

Surely it would be better all around to just avoid the topic which is easily done for you at the moment...rather than follow a social media thread about it while moaning about not wanting to see anything about the topic you're following?

GreenSlide · 09/04/2021 14:42

[quote Jurassicperk]@wheresmymojo

Even if that was true, there's certainly no mention of the wrongs committed in the name of queen/king and country in the all too recent past. No apology.
They still give out awards in the name of empire, which attention starved celebrities are all too happy to accept. The empire is still seen as something to be proud of. Members of the firm still visit 'commonwealth' countries to remind citizen's of their place. Take a look at the thread in Active about the resurgence of violence in NI. Can't say the royal family of today have nothing to do with any of that.[/quote]

I live in NI and I am struggling to see the connection between the Royal Family and the protests here Confused

Jurassicperk · 09/04/2021 14:43

@jessstan2

Go away Jurrasic

Oh that's me told right off then. I'll post where I like if it's all the same to you. Bit of unintended irony in your last sentence though. Although by your shinining wit, you possibly meant it.

C130 · 09/04/2021 14:43

@WeekendCEO

I really wish MNHQ would zap this thread. It’s a horrible reflection of our society.

It reflects people’s views. Some are sad, some only feel sad for the family, some want to mention his past racism etc. To only mention the good bits of someone when they die is strange, especially when there’s things like racism involved. People won’t let things like that go unsaid, nor should they have to.

I agree with this. Regarding the racism and how damaging and hurtful and degrading it is to people affected by it.
RickiTarr · 09/04/2021 14:44

@TempsPerdu

And the insistence by some that this is and should only be allowed to be a ‘condolences’ thread is exactly what I’m uncomfortable with.
Well I’m a republican but I always thought the minimum etiquette was to be polite about the deceased in the immediate aftermath of a death.

Of course this is MN, and Chat has become AIBU, so everyone rushed to be as hyperbolic and combative as possible and so we now have a thread full of references to all manner of nonsense including - bizarrely- lynchings. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ah well.

TheVampiresWife · 09/04/2021 14:44

@RickiTarr

Bloomin’ heck. Does every second RIP thread have to become a punch up?
This isn't an RIP thread.
wheresmymojo · 09/04/2021 14:44

[quote Jurassicperk]@wheresmymojo

Even if that was true, there's certainly no mention of the wrongs committed in the name of queen/king and country in the all too recent past. No apology.
They still give out awards in the name of empire, which attention starved celebrities are all too happy to accept. The empire is still seen as something to be proud of. Members of the firm still visit 'commonwealth' countries to remind citizen's of their place. Take a look at the thread in Active about the resurgence of violence in NI. Can't say the royal family of today have nothing to do with any of that.[/quote]

Okay, so tell me how Prince Philip is to blame for the riots in NI?

Because it's related to a vote put forward by the Govt, passed by the majority of the people (albeit that I personally disagree with it) and implemented by 2 successive Govts. None of which the RF actually have any meaningful power over in a democracy.

cyclingmad · 09/04/2021 14:45

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PatrickBatemann · 09/04/2021 14:45

Oh give it a rest, it’s been a shit year for everyone. Your SIL doesn’t trump everyone else

🤣🤣

MondeoFan · 09/04/2021 14:45

I was rooting for him to reach his milestone birthday too. Sad news

RickiTarr · 09/04/2021 14:45

@TempsPerdu

And the insistence by some that this is and should only be allowed to be a ‘condolences’ thread is exactly what I’m uncomfortable with.
No you’re not. You’re whinging endlessly about your SIL’s day trip, which is completely different from this thread.
TempsPerdu · 09/04/2021 14:46

@HypocriteHunter But why should we be forced to care about it? Why should our lives be affected and inconvenienced by the death of someone we’ve never met and aren’t remotely interested in?

It’s not the mourning itself that bothers me; fine if people wish to pay their respects. But it should be a choice and there should be no compulsion whatsoever to do so, or even to pay attention to it.

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