ADs teach twisted lyrics to their pet tortoise

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Crawling back to normality slightly slower than a tortoise taking the scenic route...

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I hope you're OK Loki. I never know if I'm supposed to pick up customers things when they've dropped them or not now. I zipped up a very elderly ladies coat the other week because she was very shakey and struggling - it was bitterly cold out. It's awful to say but I hesitated a lot longer than I usually would before asking if I could help because of covid.

Just ask. I've carried a few bags for people on Tube stairs or trying to get off the bus. No one has said no so far.

Oh dear @LivinLaVidaLoki
Hope you recover swiftly, but keep an eye on that knee.

I fell a few years ago (sprained wrist & lots of bruises). I felt so silly, hadn't fallen since childhood. It fair shakes you up.

No one has said no to me when I've offered either Acorn I just feel a lot more nervous about offering. I feel really resentful that covid has made me feel this way about what's essentially good manners/normal behaviour.

Hope you feel better, @LivinLaVidaLoki. I am the opposite to you though in that if I fall, I want to be totally ignored, I get so embarrassed.

@LivinLaVidaLoki. Apparently falling over in public is a good test of how old you are. If you fall over and people rush to help, you’re old. If you fall over and everyone laughs, you’re still young. Take it as a compliment that you’re still young 😎

Thanks all. I suppose it is a blessing that no one laughed. I stayed tucked in bed reading last night.
Though when I went to the loo a couple of times, when you sit and your legs bend, that was so incredibly painful. I'm now sat eating breakfast with my legs up on a footstool.

Hope you feel better soon @LivinLaVidaLoki.

I fell over in the mums race on sports day a few years ago and bruised my shoulder in a spectacular roll! It took me a moment to twig that I was now looking at blue sky.

I'm young enough that I mainly fall when doing stupid stuff like sledging or rollerskating

My DM says you are young if you "fall over."
Once you start "having falls" you are officially old, she says.

She "fell over" before the first lockdown & broke something. Was very quick to tell the staff in A&E that she had absolutely not "had a fall", despite the age on her medical records.

Reading a thread 'over there' and it got me thinking, when will we stop sending home huge numbers of children because a positive case is found? If even Whitty is saying that cases shouldn't be the marker of a problem soon, then where do we draw the line? There's a class just gone in our primary and a secondary in a nearby town has closed altogether for 10 days! Reading between the lines I don't think there's been loads of cases, more that because it has a rural catchment there's lots of buses and one case means the whole bus out. That combined with contacts in classes seems to have meant majority of school ended up isolating so they decided to just go back online for all until they can return. It's a lot of disruption and disappointment already!

[quote Iheartmysmart]@TrustTheGeneGenie I got married abroad. We went into a travel agent (remember those) on a Saturday and booked for three weeks later. Didn’t tell a soul where we were going or why, just told them when we got back. The hotel provided witnesses and sorted everything out. We just had to peel ourselves away from the sun loungers to get ready! It was so lovely and neither of us missed having family there. It was completely our day.

On another note, I’m now eligible for my vaccine and have to be honest I’m in two minds. A history of anaphylaxis and increased allergies over the last few years has made me more scared of having the jab than Covid. Please tell me I’m being irrational and to stop being silly. I’d hate to survive a pandemic only to meet an untimely end in the local chemist![/quote]
Just popping in to give my experience. I have a history of food allergies (nothing that's included in the vaccine ingredients as far as I know as I haven't had any vaccinations since childhood) and hospital admissions. I had the AZ shot at my local mass vaccination centre. Before getting the jab everyone has a one to one chat with a nurse who I explained the allergy issue to and expressed my concerns. I was asked about any hospital admissions. They didn't know of anyone who had a reaction and said it was no problem if I was worried & didn't want to go ahead with it. They said they had adrenaline on site if needed. As a precaution they did my jab on a bed away from the masses and had someone sit with me for 15-20 minutes after. I didn't have any reaction and have been fine since. Had it on Monday by the way.

Good luck whatever you decide.

Just checking in. Here we are almost a year on. Wtf.
Withdrawn DC from Covid testing at school. It's a ridiculous idea when prevalence is so low and false positives so high. And just part of the scaremongering about asymptomatic transmission and treating positive tests as 'cases'. Since our noses and throats are (other than our skin!) a first line of defence against disease, the idea that finding some virus in them is somehow extraordinary and terrifying and necessitates isolation lacks any logic.
Not going to have the vaccine either. DC was fully vaccinated - because things like measles and meningitis etc etc are, in my view, potentially very dangerous. And I've had all mine including tetanus and yellow fever where relevant. But the idea that I should have a vaccine against a virus I've already had when I'm only 50 and not unhealthy is as ridiculous as lateral flow tests and mask wearing. I have to legally do the latter at times - with very bad grace - but no way am I getting a vaccine 'to protect others'. Honestly, I'm sick of these 'others' and the effects of their wailing hysteria on the rest of society.
Fuck I'm angry!

I doubt there'll be much significant change in school policies this side of September. Hopefully with the adult population vaccinated by the end of the summer, it should be business as usual for the new school year.

I'm just assuming that if most restrictions are ending late June, that's less than a month to make it worth many of the changes, plus more disruption of routines again.

I just want the DCs to have school bags. It's ridiculous now it's warming up carrying arm fulls of coats, jumpers, water bottles, accident notes, reading records and anything else. Secondary kids have always managed with a bag under their desk, not sure why it's too hazardous for primary?

DS1 shoved in screaming and crying for the 3rd time this week. He's never been this bad before. Occasionally in the penultimate week of a long term, but not week 2 and multiple days.

Lots of children falling over in the playground and bump notes. I noticed this in September then it calmed down later in the autumn. I suspect that because a lot have grown quite rapidly over the winter, plus not running around much, especially with friends, their brains haven't quite caught up with where thier limbs are yet

*@thefallthroughtheair * I just got the text from NHS Vaccine but accidentally deleted it (oops!). I feel the same as you about the covid vaccine (although slightly less certain that mumps and measles are as life threatening to a fit and healthy child as they are made out to be -mine didn't have MMR as it was at the height of the scares about it and no one could offer me sufficient reassurance at the time )

We got a leaflet through our door. We're young 'uns as far as the vaccine goes so not our turn yet but the expressionless masked lady n the front did not fill me with confidence.

As to schools, I simply do not trust them any more at all. I treat every reopening as temporary. And libraries are now dead. They won't reopen for booklending. They will now be more like free internet cafes as long as you wear a hazmat suit of course.

I am v gloomy today. I hate my disorganised brain. I can't put any order to anything at all.

I'm also unsure about the covid testing at home. It's stressful trying to decide what to do. DH is self employed and has had the vaccine, but would still have to stay home and lose income. Seems mad in some ways.

I declined the vaccine. Unsure what I'll do when it's offered again. I want to see how badly everyone else at work reacts to the 2nd dose as they'll be getting those soon.

I've been wondering how long the isolation stuff will continue. I feel like the LFTs are a massive waste of money and horrendous for the environment. Surely we can't be funding this forever. I'm also bitter as the only reason DS is meant to be isolating is because of a positive symptomless lateral flow test. If this had been 6months ago we wouldn't have known and he could have still been in proper school. We've already finished all the school work set today. There's no way those at home haven't been missing out hugely.

Bog are your DC not allowed bags because of shared cloak rooms? My youngest in foundation isn't allowed a bag, but eldest is, they just keep their rucksacks under the desk. She would be losing everything without it.

Bobby. I know what you mean.
Thing is that I have always been a hyperchondriac and especially about DC when young...I was always bleaching door knobs and cancelling playdates if I heard someone had a sniffle! But having the whole world turn hysterical really turned a mirror on my views. And I hate the authoritarianism. I would never ever have said that everyone should get the MMR jab or not be allowed to [fill in the gap]. Personally I made a decision that DC wouldn't see people who hadn't had it until DC got vaccinated... Ie I took responsibility for my own health decisions. Which is what I expect now from others....but 'over there' it's all 'well what do we do about these stupid people who won't get vaccinated...ban them'. Why the fuck should I have a vaccine I neither want nor need to stop other people from feeling needlessly terrified. I'm already putting up with the stupidity of masks, as a sop to the stupid; that's enough. I can't for the life of me see why, with such great vaccines - and it would appear that they are very effective - we can't just open up and let those of us with some understanding of risk and data and some care for children and all others so badly affected by lockdown, to go about our lives.
Ah, I needed to vent!

I've just been doing some Googling about lateral flow tests as I think they are pretty unreliable, and have just found that if you don't swill the buffer liquid properly you get a false positive. So it seems easy to get it wrong with teens rushing, being distracted, not reading instructions properly. There must be lots of false positives its ridiculous that so much reliance has been put on these tests.

And libraries are now dead. They won't reopen for booklending. They will now be more like free internet cafes as long as you wear a hazmat suit of course.

See this is one of those annoying things where there's no need for them to be closed other than someone high up is scared. Our local volunteer run library is open for click and collect three times a week. You can reserve books using the app, by commenting or messaging on FB, or by calling up and talking to us / leaving a voicemail. You can also arrange to use the computers, printer and copier if you do t have access. From the 12th of April we are going back up to six days a week and just doing masks/ sanitizer /one way system/ limited numbers/ screens (because we have to). Pisses me right off that we can do that with an almost fully volunteer staff but libraries that are fully funded by the council and have paid staff are refusing to do the same.

I just booked for the vaccination, late 40s, day before they said no one under 50 yet on tv so was lucky to get in.

I am getting mine as I want to travel. But I really don't understand the rationale for stopping them working down the list to strong arm those that are choosing to wait or just don't want it. It doesn't make sense and quite frankly if I didn't take up the invite then I would be annoyed at being pestered and if I choose to sit on it like some have done then again why should others be delayed.

It's almost as if they don't want people to have autonomy to choose 🤔

thefall I'm a hypochondriac too.

Proper health anxiety... except not about covid. Probably because I've had it and there was nowt to it. (For me.)

I haven't decided on vaccine yet. During normal times I like to travel, including going abroad, and I see a lot of theatre and live music and so on.

I don't think I need the vaccine clinically, but I feel like I might have an easier life societally if I do have it.

But I also fear for the new kind of two-tier society that might be created -- the Jabbed and the Unjabbed (or Unjagged in your actual Scottish).

Anyway. DH is going into hospital tomorrow. He's not ill, it's a minor routine surgery done as day patient, but he's going under general anaesthetic. Mad as it sounds, he's never had one before. I keep having these horrible waking-dream type fears that he won't wake up. Of course he's under good care, they've done his pre-op checks already and he's got the heart of an athlete so I'm sure it'll all be fine. And it's being done at a longstanding and excellent private hospital so not NHS.

But I've got that 'clammy hand of dread' feeling today. Gah. Need to give myself a small shake really.

I wish there was some kind of website where you could 'donate a vaccine to the hysterical' so I could give mine for eg to a healthy young slim female teacher who otherwise thinks kids are going to kill her. Or whatever.

I strayed onto the EU are stealing our vaccines and saw the newspaper headlines this morning .... is it coincidence that this anti EU hysteria is being whipped up whilst the Govt is quietly trying to do more trade with China & others with poor human rights records.