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Anyone in the US? Did you watch the Meghan interview?

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Tankflybosswalkjam · 07/03/2021 07:08

Apparently it’s already been broadcast!

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Impatiens · 07/03/2021 20:08

@Diverseopinions excellent post - it is tragic that these hugely wealthy people seem obsessed with shoring up more and more wealth for themselves when they could do so much good.

One thing I would disagree with - I think the RF should have given Harry the option of a life away from being a working royal much earlier Harry didn't need the RF to allow him to withdraw from public life, he always had that option if he wanted to take it. In fact he seemed to revel in being a 'playboy prince' and the favourite grandchild etc. Despite his 'mistakes' (wearing a Nazi uniform fgs) he was well-liked by the media and public.

MintyMabel · 07/03/2021 20:08

Sorry, but I don't think anyone would be able to modernise the RF

Define “modernise”?

The Royal Family of today is different to the family before the coronation. Various people have had an impact on it. From that fly on the wall documentary, to more inclusive garden parties. From allowing divorced to cutting the civil list. Succession to the Crown Act, fewer restrictions on having an outside job, allowing an heir to marry a “commoner”, opening up palaces etc. And nobody can deny the Diana effect has changed the way the younger royals are in public and the work they do.

There has been an effort to move with the times, how far would be deemed enough in order to declare they had modernised enough?

vlnr77yac · 07/03/2021 20:09

It is obvious to me that the Queen in her mid 90s is in charge in name only, the whole shebang will be run by the courtiers, with Charles at the side.

I agree. These little boys get the job of courtiers because of who they are NOT because they're qualified.

Seriously the judgment to go after Megan with a stupid "investigation" the same week of the interview isn't just poor judgement its negligent.

You've got Prince Andrew and his mega crap in the offing, so anything other than complete silence was suicidal. It's like they're trying to destroy the RF from the inside out.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2021 20:10

It is good though that modern employment rights are making their way to Buckingham palace

Dream on - especially if there's the slighest chance of Andrew being implicated in the bullying claims.
They might throw a perceived "outsider" to the wolves, but there's no chance of that with someone of the sainted "royal blood"

ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 07/03/2021 20:14

@oakleaffy Never said it was 'right' just that it needed to be considered in its context although forgetting the importance of context seems to be an international pass time these days (I say this as someone who also has family experiences of Nazi atrocities btw)

Alsohuman · 07/03/2021 20:15

If the Palace are calm and unworried they sure are doing a good job of acting like they have a leaky nappy.

Are they? They looked pretty serene and completely unconcerned this afternoon.

An interesting thing about the allegations is the deafening lack of denial from the other side of the Atlantic.

MintyMabel · 07/03/2021 20:15

In fact he seemed to revel in being a 'playboy prince' and the favourite grandchild etc. Despite his 'mistakes' (wearing a Nazi uniform fgs) he was well-liked by the media and public.

He was a kid, fgs.

Remember he then went on to join the marines and served in combat zones where, by all accounts, he was well respected. Let’s not have everyone’s past haunt them forever if they turn themselves around.

MintyMabel · 07/03/2021 20:17

interesting thing about the allegations is the deafening lack of denial from the other side of the Atlantic.

Some things are best not dignified with a response.

Roussette · 07/03/2021 20:18

The DM article did make me laugh... so Andrew is in the firing line too?!

This bit...
'On another occasion in 2016, Andrew was reported to have rammed his Range Rover through closed park gates close to his Royal Lodge home in Windsor to avoid a one-mile detour;

Andrew 'was reported'... what nonsense, there were pictures in the press at the time of mangled gates.

And this...
'Prince Andrew’s friends have previously dismissed claims of poor behaviour, saying only that he has been involved in heated rows but nothing more'

So only 'heated rows' lol. That's OK then!

vlnr77yac · 07/03/2021 20:19

If the Palace are calm and unworried they sure are doing a good job of acting like they have a leaky nappy.
GrinGrinGrin

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2021 20:19

Define “modernise”?

I could write all night about that, which would bore everybody, but despite their pretence of tinkering round the edges it really comes down to one word: accountability

Almost all other taxpayer-funded institutions have it - at least in theory - but the RF hide behind their exemption from the FoI Act.
Remove that and I might finally begin to believe a few of their PR driven assurances

PicsInRed · 07/03/2021 20:20

@HelloThereMeHearties

They could also have been making fun of a man that many people at the time thought was ridiculous.
Ed 8 visited Hitler with Wallis. They heiled.

Wallis was rumoured to be having an affair with a senior Nazi and passing him restricted info from the King's governmental papers.

Hitler planned to re-instal Ed 8 as monarch as soon as UK surrendered.

Ed 8 visited a labour camp

Ed 8 encouraged the bombing of civilians in the hope they would lose hope, surrender, and him and Wallis would be on the throne soonest.

The government were so concerned Ed 8 not fall into Nazi hands, as they thought may be imminent and not opposed by Ed, that he was removed from Portugal (I think?) and deposited in the Carribean for the duration of the war.

All of these matters were discussed and actioned at the highest level, have been declassified, and are now a matter of public record.

Ed 8 was a Nazi sympathiser, as was Wallis, and the other members of the royal family played along for far too long.

ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 07/03/2021 20:21

@MintyMabel I remember when he referred to a fellow serviceman as 'my little p* friend.' Yet he has never acknowledged his own racist behaviour whilst decrying anyone who says anything he doesn't like as such. Oh, and they are all about free speech and empowerment, but want to control the media and social media output? They are hypocrites of the highest order! His one saving grace is he is not that bright, but she knows exactly what she is doing.

BelleHathor · 07/03/2021 20:21

@PicsInRed

Buckingham Palace aren't the least bit worried Meghan will say anything nasty about Kate, the disingenuous bastards that the Palace are.

They know perfectly well that Meghan and Harry know of the Rose Hanbury affair, something Harry was reportedly very upset about (as he's known Kate a long time and Diana was treated similarly) and no doubt a feminist would consider Willo public playing away with one of Kate's own set, and her limited options to divorce and keep her small children, to be deeply archaic and unpleasant.

In other words, Harry and Meghan are likely highly sympathetic to Kate's position - a gilded cage.

It was rumoured that Kate was considering divorce. We all remember the "flinch" video, where she jumped from Will's touch. Had she made enquiries, her prospects for a fair settlement and custody of her children would have been made starkly plain to her.

Therefore, Buckingham Palace aren't worried about what Meghan will say of Kate.

BuckPalace are shitting themselves worried about what Harry will disclose about William and his conduct towards Kate.

You've hit the nail on the head! Add to that the "Catherine the great" article in Tatler last year where the Norfolk set let Kate know her place and made disparaging remarks about the Middletons. Imagine having to smile in front the woman your husband allegedly grew close to, which was an open secret amongst your "friends". I imagine Harry told Will WTF You're doing what our dad did to our mother and that's why they fell out. The UK press had injunctions but a lot of the press worldwide reported it.
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PicsInRed · 07/03/2021 20:23

@Alsohuman

If the Palace are calm and unworried they sure are doing a good job of acting like they have a leaky nappy.

Are they? They looked pretty serene and completely unconcerned this afternoon.

An interesting thing about the allegations is the deafening lack of denial from the other side of the Atlantic.

That flurry of apoplectic, unhinged media coverage this past week? That came from the Palace's people. All the activity this week has been driven by them.

Serene my common bottom Grin

Alsohuman · 07/03/2021 20:24

@MintyMabel

interesting thing about the allegations is the deafening lack of denial from the other side of the Atlantic.

Some things are best not dignified with a response.

I agree. That hasn’t been a notable characteristic of that quarter in the past. The predictable response if the allegations were false would have been a writ swiftly served on The Times.
ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 07/03/2021 20:24

@PicsInRed Ed 8 and Wallis undertook that trip without authorization and as private citizens. The Nazis presented it as a state visit to capitalize on it, but it never was one.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2021 20:24

From allowing divorced to cutting the civil list

I can't believe I missed that bit about the Civil List - please tell me you're not serious?

Is it really possible you've missed the "arrangements" made around royal finances since the introduction of the Sovereign Grant??

VladmirsPoutine · 07/03/2021 20:25

She's a typical narcissist (and I work in mental health so know exactly what they are like

Gosh. I do feel sorry for any patient that has the misfortune of coming across you.

Impatiens · 07/03/2021 20:26

He was a kid, fgs He was 20 when he did the Nazi fancy dress.

Remember he then went on to join the Marines and served in combat zones where, by all accounts, he was well respected. Let’s not have everyone’s past haunt them forever if they turn themselves around.

Was he in the Marines? Don't think so - beside the point anyway, he flew military helicopters and served a short time, including in combat zones, for which he got a huge (disproportionate) amount of praise.

My point was in response to a poster who said the RF should have allowed him to stand down earlier and I said I felt he really enjoyed the privileges of being part of the RF so wouldn't have wanted to.

VladmirsPoutine · 07/03/2021 20:27

That flurry of apoplectic, unhinged media coverage this past week?

Apparently palace HR wants to investigate the bullying accusations levelled at Meghan, the charity commission wants to investigate the charity they had, apparently doing this interview could be the final straw for a poorly phillip who didn't seem at all perturbed by the actions of Andrew. Whatever next...

ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 07/03/2021 20:27

If there is anything to 'bring out' re W&K which I do not believe for a moment there is Harry would be an utter dick to do it. Kate has obviously decided to move past it and doesn't want to drag her children, family and husband through the drama. That is her choice and right.

PicsInRed · 07/03/2021 20:29

The thing is why does Meghan say that she didn't know who Prince Harry was

She said she didn't really know much about him, she never claimed to never even have heard of him. A lot of Americans know vaguely who the main royals are whilst knowing bugger all specifically about them or how it all works. It's not their Royal family, so why would they?

They were introduced by a mutual friend.