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ADs picnic in the park with Twinkle the Tortoise

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ISaySteadyOn · 22/02/2021 19:07

Thought it was my turn to start a thread.

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BogRollBOGOF · 27/02/2021 00:27

@Mrsfrumble

It’s shocking but unsurprising how the ‘mask debate’ has shone a light back on a continuing societal problem with ableism- just goes to show even the most liberal types are actually quite unaware of how cruel they’re being when they shout ‘JUST WEAR A FUCKING MASK’ etc. They’ll claim they care about disabled people... until it ‘inconveniences’ them. Just shows we still have a long way to go

Yep. It was shocking, the casual ease with which some posters could just proclaim “well they’ll have to stay at home then” when told that others were not able to wear a mask. It made me think of an item I heard pre-Covid on Radio 4, on the weekday evening show they have about disability (sorry, can’t remember what it’s called), about how it used to be legal and commonplace to exclude people with mobility issues and visual impairments from theatres and concert halls on the basis that they’d get in the way and slow others down in the event of an emergency evacuation. The presenter talked about how great it was that we’d moved past such attitudes, but I’m not sure that we have really.

My best mate at uni used a wheelchair. She also had crutches for manouvering about/ stairs. One night club refused to let her in. Others got funny about fire exits. Some were lovely too. Guess where we went more often... That was 20 years ago.

We were a great double act. If one seat was avaliable, we'd often swap. She'd get the regular chair and I'd use the wheelchair to give her bum a break. One night at the end, we were waiting for the scrum to go through the exit. She sat on the stairs, crutches in hand, me in the wheel chair. A lad, drunk out of his head, was asking about us getting home. He lived on the wrong side of town anyway. Then the crowd disappeared, I got up, she got in and I pushed her off. The lad was stood, jaw hanging open, eyes gaping like he'd just watched a miracle Grin

MercyBooth · 27/02/2021 01:04

"well they’ll have to stay at home then”

This was the reaction on Twitter tonight from some viewers of The Last Leg when they did a poll on vaccine certificates.
Yes you read that right. The Last Leg. The show that took off off the back of the British Paralympics in 2012

starfish88 · 27/02/2021 02:38

With the casual ablism, my grandma needs to go to the dentist but it's up some stairs and she can no longer walk up them. The building is listed so no lift or anything. She just assumed she can no longer get dental treatment but my family are trying to get her on the wait list for the hospital dentist. She lives in a small town but I can't imagine that this problem has not come up before even once in the at least 30+ years the dentist has been there but no one seems quite sure what to do about it. There is apparently quite a lot of 'computer says no' about using the hospital dentist because the dentist could still offer her an appointment she just can't get up the stairs once there.

MercyBooth · 27/02/2021 03:21

@LivinLaVidaLoki @MrsDeaconClaybourne Flowers

@DWPmisery1972 YY. Exactly. Im sorry your DP is suffering with all that.

DWPmisery1972 · 27/02/2021 04:25

@wanderings no I’m with you- totally understand your reasoning.

@Mrsfrumble It’s like cognitive dissonance. ‘Protect our most vulnerable!, save the NHS!’ While simultaneously screeching ‘i have terminal lung cancer and can double mask for 24 hours straight there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to!’

Some of our most vulnerable are being thrown to the wolves Sad

@MercyBooth I’m so sorry about your friend, I hope she is ok. This EON scandal is going to ruin them. It’s a complete shambles.

DWPmisery1972 · 27/02/2021 04:28

@starfish88 Shock that is disgusting! If they can’t make accommodations she should absolutely be seen by the hospital dentist- to clarify where you stand I would contact NHS England as they deal with queries and complaints about dentists too Flowers

DWPmisery1972 · 27/02/2021 04:32

Love the story about you and your friend @BogRollBOGOF Grin I can imagine that was ace entertainment for the last drunkards left on the dancefloor at the end of the night Grin

Reedwarbler · 27/02/2021 07:41

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9305405/Grieving-relatives-demand-inquiry-loved-ones-wrongly-certified-virus-victims.html

Noticed this article when browsing todays headlines. I think there will be a lot of disturbing stories that come out of this pandemic, not only with regard to the above, but the cash to buddies from government ministers and breaches of human rights.

MrsDeaconClaybourne · 27/02/2021 08:24

I've just read a report about Sir Tom's funeral that says his family urge people to continue to stay at home to protect the NHS. It then says his funeral will be "spectacular" and lists everything that's happening which involves, well, lots of people not staying at home. Had a real "is it me?" moment.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 27/02/2021 08:40

I totally understand @wanderings

I have been allowed by my manager to go back into the office 3 days a week from the 8th March.

I had been going in previously as my mental health had been declining due to not only being in the house all day by myself, but the extent to which this had led to my work life take over my home life, it really isnt sustainable. But then when this lockdown hit he decided I should be at home.

Organisational policy says that I could work in the office as I was, but he said that we should be reducing contacts and so this meant staying at home. I was vaccinated in mid Jan and so he has now said that as I am vaccinated I can go back in, providing I LFT twice a week. Its over and above what the organisation want, and it makes two of my days in quite disruptive, but hey ho.

Tbh the organisation say its voluntary but I'm kind of made to feel like I have to. Buy then I feel like I'm contributing to this mess. It's hard to explain really but I totally get what you are saying.

Not sure if it's related but he is quite happy to never set foot in the office as he's never made accountable for any work he doesn't do does and it enables his work dodging ways quite nicely.

MaudesMum · 27/02/2021 08:43

@ISaySteadyOn Our Town is a great play, but it is staged quite regularly - I saw it at the Almeida in London a few years ago (I was also in it at school, but that was a long time ago!) And there's just been a really interesting interview on Radio 4, with a couple of council leaders in areas where cases are rising. Both agreed that a big chunk of those cases related to workplace infections, made worse by people not wanting to be tested because of losing work - so nothing to do with individuals not complying. I have helpfully shared this on a thread on the Other Place - the one where people are outraged about people mixing outdoors - but I don't expect to be thanked for it!

starfish88 · 27/02/2021 08:46

Thanks @DWPmisery1972 I think my dad has managed to get it sorted for her but I will make sure. It was just the confusion on the phone, they clearly had a box to tick to say you couldn't get an appointment but they couldn't cope with 'I can get an appointment but I can't get up the stairs' there was no tick box for that.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 27/02/2021 08:47

Also anyone else noticed that we are back to "looks like nice weather this weekend, best make this press announcement super gloomy"

MrsDeaconClaybourne · 27/02/2021 09:00

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Also anyone else noticed that we are back to "looks like nice weather this weekend, best make this press announcement super gloomy"
I noticed that Livin. Don't understand why the message isn't make the most of being able to be outdoors when it's so low risk and good for everyone's wellbeing - physical and mental.
BogRollBOGOF · 27/02/2021 09:17

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Also anyone else noticed that we are back to "looks like nice weather this weekend, best make this press announcement super gloomy"
That's what I though at the light-touch doom plopping last night.

I'd far rather see goups healthily playing sports togerher or just enjoying the fresh air and early signs of spring than people being cooped up indoors.

If some of those groups have moved outside rather than meeting indoors for months, all the better as far as virus spread goes.

wanderings · 27/02/2021 09:32

@LivinLaVidaLoki Yep, weekend + nice weather = doom and gloom in the press. It's the one thing that Saint Boris and his merry men have paid great attention to - the SPIN. Well, I suppose the civil service has a whole department dedicated to this, and always has done.

@MrsDeaconClaybourne I suppose the government's thinking is that lots of people will do exactly that, i.e. make the most of the nice weather, so the government feels the need to "offset" this.

I'm glad to see the government finally talking about public finances, though; even if they won't admit that the devastation has been caused by THEIR lockdown; they'll just keep saying "caused by Covid", not "caused by lockdown".

wanderings · 27/02/2021 09:34

I remember also reading a comment years ago, in the days of Tony Blair:
"In Thatcher's time, it was acceptable to tell the blunt economic truth - Routemaster buses cost more to run, because they needed a driver and a conductor, so it was not viable to keep them. Nowadays, it's all spin spin spin, hide the truth, or sugar-coat it."

Worldgonecrazy · 27/02/2021 10:01

Eh gads! People learn a word with more than two syllables and spout it as often as possible to sound brainy.

Please can someone tie my hands behind my back so I don’t go over there again.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 27/02/2021 10:03

@Worldgonecrazy

Eh gads! People learn a word with more than two syllables and spout it as often as possible to sound brainy.

Please can someone tie my hands behind my back so I don’t go over there again.

Case in point "Exponential" "Do you even know what Exponential growth is?" "No, do you?"
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ISaySteadyOn · 27/02/2021 10:19

[quote MaudesMum]@ISaySteadyOn Our Town is a great play, but it is staged quite regularly - I saw it at the Almeida in London a few years ago (I was also in it at school, but that was a long time ago!) And there's just been a really interesting interview on Radio 4, with a couple of council leaders in areas where cases are rising. Both agreed that a big chunk of those cases related to workplace infections, made worse by people not wanting to be tested because of losing work - so nothing to do with individuals not complying. I have helpfully shared this on a thread on the Other Place - the one where people are outraged about people mixing outdoors - but I don't expect to be thanked for it![/quote]
I was making a bit of a bad joke about it not being staged nowadays, but I am really glad to hear that it is. Maybe someday I will get to see it.

I don't think I appreciated how good a play it actually was when I read it for school.

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TheOrchidKiller · 27/02/2021 12:25

@MercyBooth
well they’ll have to stay at home then”
This was the reaction on Twitter tonight from some viewers of The Last Leg when they did a poll on vaccine certificates.
Yes you read that right. The Last Leg. The show that took off off the back of the BritishParalympics in 2012

I watched the show last night & was really pissed off about that stupid poll. I used to like The Last Leg, & I thought they could do better than that.

It's become a weird mix of typical "lads' bants" about how we're all gonna get smashed once the pubs reopen, (which is hardly responsible behaviour), & Adam Hills disappearing up his own backside over how much better the Aussies do lockdown.

It needs pensioning off.

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ISaySteadyOn · 27/02/2021 12:29

I need a handhold today. I feel utterly useless and as though DH and the DC would be better off with a replacement. Someone not me. Better and not dyspraxic so she could fix and make more things. And a better disciplinarian.

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DWPmisery1972 · 27/02/2021 12:30

Agreed @TheOrchidKiller I wouldn’t usually say this (I’m not a supremacist, both sides of my families emigrated to the U.K. during ww2) but if aus is so bloody grand why doesn’t he fuck off back there? His humour is dead here now anyway Hmm

DWPmisery1972 · 27/02/2021 12:32

@ISaySteadyOn hand hold here from me, I don’t care if we spread the covids, we’ll prance through a field of fucking daisies singing musical tunes so we’re proper super spreaders Grin fwiw you’re not a bad mother and you are making the best of what is basically an unworkable situation- this isn’t YOUR fault. Please don’t blame yourself. Flowers

chocolatesweets · 27/02/2021 12:39

@ISaySteadyOn hand hold. I've felt like that through lockdown too. It's really tough. It's not you. It's the situation. It's impossible sometimes. Kids have gone with gps this afternoon. It feels like a spa day. I'm sat by the kitchen table having a coffee.

Hold on.

I don't agree with the restrictions. You can't save lives. You can only trade them. And those at the bottom are being traded. ☹️