Do you think people can just disappear?

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Lots of missing cases with no explanation.

Aliens?
Assassinations?
Government coverups?
People needed for testing?

Very weird.

I’ve actually witnessed a huge ‘search’ and publicity campaign for a missing teenage boy WhoI happen to know was in witness protection

It's brilliant- I ended up watching series 1 twice to understand it fully, series 2 added more confusion then series 3 was WTF at times! Definitely recommend it.

I’m definitely going to give it a watch :)
I’ve been looking for something new, thanks!

School pick up on what? None of the schools business

@Rowenasemolina

Of course it is.

There were 3 children living in a house with no adult, 2 of which were under 13 and one was 16.
They had no money apart from the small amount the older boy was bringing in which went on rent because they couldn’t get benefits as they didn’t tell anyone about their mum.

Once it was found out they got proper care and money but the damage was still done.

I think that if you want to disappear you can do it. Enough cash, start over, change your name, I if your serious you can get a passport and ID in a different name !

My Uncle disappeared in Australia before I was born. He left his wife and children and his whole life. My dad tried to find him (from England) but never did. There were several different rumours. My dad died a number of years ago convinced his brother had died when he disappeared and was long dead.
However, I am now in touch with his son who has told me he wrote to his children for years afterwards and their mother never showed them the letters. They found them when she died (along with letters from my dad and his sister) all unopened. He was still living nearby for a while - the next town over- and had another child with another woman. The last letter was from Darwin- the other end of Australia and that was 30 years ago. Stopped writing then. He will be dead now probably - would be almost 90. From all accounts he was close to his parents and siblings, wrote often, visited from Australia, telephoned his parents. It all just stopped the day he left his wife.

I read a theory that Maddie McCann left her bed and wandered into the sea and drowned. Obviously, it's highly unlikely due to no body washing up, but still possible. What stuck with me from reading it is that not one person on this earth would know the truth.

Im actually sobbing at these. If a loved passes you can grieve, but to not know one way or another must be far worse in away. At least with death you know where they and you are. The only hope with disappearances is that theycan turn up look at Jaycee Lee Duggard missing for 18 years. A few years younger she may never have remembered her mum. It makes you go ice cold.

@yvanka it’s actually quite common for people who go missing from the shore to be found - if a body is carried out by the tide, it usually comes back in again. Grim, but true.

I read a theory that Maddie McCann left her bed and wandered into the sea and drowned.

I wonder if this is true or if someone tried to snatch her and then threw her in the water.

If a loved passes you can grieve, but to not know one way or another must be far worse in away.

Me too!
I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse! You’ll always be wondering if they are being held captive or lost or something.

You can but it's not easy anymore. If someone disappears with no apparent reason, no phone trace and no digital banking or credit cards used then they're generally dead.

Or were very serious about dropping off the grid.

16 year olds can and do live alone. Several in most schools, probably. I’ve had 16 year old pupils married with a baby. No one else’s business.

16 year olds can and do live alone. Several in most schools, probably. I’ve had 16 year old pupils married with a baby. No one else’s business.

That's one thing.. but surely caring for two younger siblings under 13 should flag something up to check they're coping ok?

Just reading through the posts about not needing new ID etc, I suppose that's right that you could just tell the police you don't want to be found.. but I do think it must be harder now as if you were a high profile missing person people may recognise you and then people commenting on social media if they see your missing posters on Facebook - they might comment to say "I've seen such & such working at .... in ....".

Would think you'd at least have to go by a different name too.

I agree with PP that I never share missing posts on Facebook unless it's a police post, as I don't like the posts where people are like "I want to trace ....... desperately need information about where they are now". Always makes me feel a bit uncomfortable incase the person doesn't want to be found.

[quote FaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaBlah]@yvanka it’s actually quite common for people who go missing from the shore to be found - if a body is carried out by the tide, it usually comes back in again. Grim, but true.[/quote]
I live in a coastal town and a common phrase here is "the sea always brings back it's dead"

I do think it's possible to disappear. A member of DH's family has been missing for a most 8 years now, just went out one night & never been seen since.

I’ve known of 2 missing people.

One who had taken his own life & his body was undiscovered for a while due to where we live.

Another from years back who walked out one day at the age of 16/17 but returned about 10 years later. What I remember about that one was the devastation that was left when they were missing. The not knowing. When they came back the fear that they would go off again & continually treading on eggshells to not say the wrong thing.

@Littleposh

Is it a full moon tonight or are mumsnetters just really bored?? Can't we have a conspiracy board for all the crazies to be together??

Why don't you suggest it to MNHQ? We could also have a thread asking what people get out of being so nasty and sneery towards perfectly harmless discussions? Because that's a mystery to me.

@Rowenasemolina

I’ve actually witnessed a huge ‘search’ and publicity campaign for a missing teenage boy WhoI happen to know was in witness protection

How interesting, but how on earth was the fiction kept up long term? How did you come to know the truth?

Because I was their teacher and very close to them and very concerned, and proactive in picking up and recording details in student conversations, and passing them on to the police, and participating in spreading posters, etc Eventually the head took me aside and explained what the true situation was. This was more than 10 years ago. They are still ‘missing’

@Rowenasemolina

Because I was their teacher and very close to them and very concerned, and proactive in picking up and recording details in student conversations, and passing them on to the police, and participating in spreading posters, etc Eventually the head took me aside and explained what the true situation was. This was more than 10 years ago. They are still ‘missing’

Thanks, @Rowenasemolina. Can I ask how long before you were told the truth? And —obviously feel free not to reply if I’m overstepping — if this was a school kid put in WP, under the guise of going missing, presumably their parents had to continue life as usual while pretending to participate in a fake police search? Because it’s much harder to believe in a whole family vanishing...?

My DB worked on a TV program once about missing people. The last case on it was the mysterious and out of the blue disappearance of a woman after a night out with a friend but he said in reality she'd been with her ex the night she disappeared and they couldn't show that because they though he would sue. There was no evidence even though the obvious solution is probably correct.

There are various ways for it to be achieved, just depends on the reasons why it's needed as to how deep there new cover is ect

It would be fairly easy i think.

You could move to the other side of the country / world. Ditch all your electronics and buy new. Get a new phone number and email address. You can use your original birth certificate and passport, but change your name to a nickname (or change your whole name by deed poll).

You can't hide from HMRC but your family wouldn't be able to find you.

Cruel though. Might be best to tell them you're making a fresh start first of all so they don't go mad worrying.

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

My DB worked on a TV program once about missing people. The last case on it was the mysterious and out of the blue disappearance of a woman after a night out with a friend but he said in reality she'd been with her ex the night she disappeared and they couldn't show that because they though he would sue. There was no evidence even though the obvious solution is probably correct.

I honestly don’t remember how long, sorry. I’d guess at maybe a couple of months? And no, their parents didn’t know. They gave evidence against their parents One of whom was very high up in local organised crime

Sorry! Quoted the wrong message! I meant to quote @PillowSandwich!

Is it just me boggling at a head teacher randomly spilling the beans about witness protection? That sounds super unlikely and unprofessional to me.