Do you think people can just disappear?

[louise4745]

Lots of missing cases with no explanation.

Aliens?
Assassinations?
Government coverups?
People needed for testing?

Very weird.

My dh's step brother just disappeared over 20 years ago.
After dh's step dad died we received a contact from the police to say that he is alive and well but didn't wish to be found.

@TheVolturi

I have always thought that unless you are killed and disposed of, then disappearing must be quite difficult? How would you start afresh somewhere, without identification, documents, money, bank account etc? Unless you'd saved lots up and previously got hold of a new identity.

Many of them aren't in a place where they disappear to start a middle class life somewhere else.

They are often having a breakdown and become homeless drifters.

I also wonder how many are imprisoned like Natasha kampush Elizabeth fritzl and jacee dugard but have never escaped- probably over a hundred for every one that has come to light.

Horrible thought but probably right - there must be a lot that we don't know about

Suicide, murder, death by natural causes body not discovered will account for many. Others disappear because they want to. They leave everything, walk away and start a new life.

Didn't lots of people use 9/11 as an opportunity to disappear and reinvent a new life for themselves?

probably over a hundred for every one that has come to light.

Did you just make this up? Why 100?

Yes. Most recently corrie mckeague. Where do they go? They must be dead but where? As no money or passports are gone no evidence to suggest they have fled and started a new life under an alias.

Also see my thread from earlier today about cars at the bottom of lakes and rivers!

I watch a YouTube series by divers in the US who routinely find cars with bodies in from missing person cases at the bottom of lakes.

@Shaniac

Yes. Most recently corrie mckeague. Where do they go? They must be dead but where? As no money or passports are gone no evidence to suggest they have fled and started a new life under an alias.

They've pretty much ruled out any foul play and coroner found that he died after climbing in the bin

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-suffolk-54931963

Remember the episode of Doctor Who “Blink”.

Sent back in time by the weeping angels

Disappear from the authorities? Pretty hard.

Disappear from family and loved ones? If you're an adult, probably relatively easy. No-one has the right to try and track you down or expect access to services to track your spending/cctv/etc etc providing you're not "vulnerable." People are allowed to leave their lives if they want to.

My father disappeared over 30 years ago. No trace ever found. To this day no-one in the family, nor the police have any clue what happened. Checked into a hotel on a business trip, was seen about the hotel and met up with friends over a few days, but didn't check out when he was supposed to, passport, cash, bank cards and wedding ring all found in the room. No leads, no-one has seen him since. Most likely explanation is that he went swimming in the sea and drowned, but no body ever found.

It happens.

@Frimplet

My father disappeared over 30 years ago. No trace ever found. To this day no-one in the family, nor the police have any clue what happened. Checked into a hotel on a business trip, was seen about the hotel and met up with friends over a few days, but didn't check out when he was supposed to, passport, cash, bank cards and wedding ring all found in the room. No leads, no-one has seen him since. Most likely explanation is that he went swimming in the sea and drowned, but no body ever found.

It happens.

How awful ☹️

US rather than UK but six missing people found in one go in one lake

oklahoman.com/article/3898059/questions-remain-after-discovery-of-bodies-in-foss-lake

So sorry to hear that Frimplet. That must have been / be incredibly tough

I think most people who disappear just want to disappear.

I think many of them are still alive (maybe most of them). There aren't that many serial killers on the loose.

I often fantasise about disappearing. Now I'm a parent I wouldn't put my children through the worry, but I think I could happily go off somewhere and start completely anew and cut all ties.

I personally know / have met 2 people who have vanished without trace.

One -the father of a boy I taught and a mother I was friends with -disppeared 10 years ago after being manic for a few days (depressive) he left a note saying 'gone for walk' and vanished -10 years ago. Children (3) have been devastated. The wife brought them all up alone and recently went to the high court to declare him dead so she can sell the house and move. She oscillates between depair, anger and worried she misjudged him -he had asked a colleague to look for jobs in Australia for him saying 'It's my sanity or my kids' or is his remains rotting somewhere? How the deal do the four of them recover from that?

Another one the wife, she has vanished. Living in France. Disappeared one day over two years ago.......... and the husband said she had asked for 5,000 Euros and said she wanted to leave him. No word to her boys who were older teenagers. No hint of any problems.He took the money out and paid her (or so he says). Text sent from her phone to say to a friend 'Can't talk, will phone in a few weeks' that was a few years ago. Left two older teenager boys. She phoned her parents twice a week -every week of the year all her life she phoned them -two years since they have had a call. Passport, phone etc never used again. They have dug up their garden, patio and all sorts. But she's gone.

In the first case, if he's dead -she'd just rather have known. If he'd committed suicide -surely say something or say where your body is.

Same with the second. But the children and their families are just blown apart.

It is awful I do think many accidental deaths can happen especially in water or rural areas and the person is never found. But I do think some people just want to escape and go to a new life, this was easier years ago, not so easy now although people can tell the police they are fine but don't wish to be found. And of course the darker things happen that we will never really know about. But I do think some things happen in front of our eyes, many people get trafficked into the UK from abroad, the families may be wondering where they are and what's happened, but we see them working in a car wash or nail bar or farms and think they are just working... Quite scary to think about

Is it a full moon tonight or are mumsnetters just really bored?? Can't we have a conspiracy board for all the crazies to be together??

The son of family I know went missing when he was 17. When his parents came from work he simply wasn’t there. His room was tidied and his clothes were gone too. 40 years later, they still don’t know where he is.

I feel sorry for those who just want to disappear and their faces are all over Facebook.
I never share these posts unless they are on the police sites and they request you do so, or it's a child/ elderly/ vunerable person.

@Furrybutts

I feel sorry for those who just want to disappear and their faces are all over Facebook. I never share these posts unless they are on the police sites and they request you do so, or it's a child/ elderly/ vunerable person.

Yes, am the same.

I know someone who has been missing for you 6 years now, he was a real arse. I think he meant to get away from his dad and either killed himself or got swept away to sea or something as it was a stormy year.

The UK is massive if I wanted to run away there would be lots of places to go and never be found and the UK is a tiny part of the world so i can definitely see how people are missing and never get found.

I agree with a PP as well that sometimes things are covered up/mistakes are made which reduces the chance of getting found.

It’s makes me so sad to know so many people especially children are missing.

My father disappeared over 30 years ago.

That is so sad