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ADs and their pampered poodles

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BogRollBOGOF · 17/01/2021 13:02

Here we are again, gaining sequels even more rapidly than the Fast and the Furious...

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ISaySteadyOn · 27/01/2021 16:00

Not half apparently. Some mild ones but no masks afaiaa.

Jourdain11 · 27/01/2021 17:24

I'm so totally not a fan, but I'm slightly confused as to why BJ is being personally blamed for each and every one of the 100,000 deaths. People seem to think that those 100,000 people would still be alive but for Covid. I'm genuinely starting to think that there are quite a lot of people around who don't realise that dying isn't wholly avoidable...

Iheartmysmart · 27/01/2021 17:44

It baffles me too but it will still be argued that those 100,000 could have lived for many more years if it wasn’t for Covid. That is entirely possible but looking at the age breakdown of deaths I’m not convinced how many of them would have had a good quality of life. The media are very good at publicising the sprightly older people who have lost their lives but I doubt they are representative of the majority.

wanderings · 27/01/2021 18:16

@Jourdain11 Boris taking the "blame" for 100,000 deaths means he can fill his quota of grovelling - probably the behavioural experts have told him he has to do it once a month, or something, to keep the increasingly frustrated public on his side. It's so obvious that somebody is pulling his strings and making him dance.

Today there's been some piffle waffle about a "roadmap out of this", "review our progress on 22 Feb", "earliest schools can go back is 8th March": all of these mean NOTHING. Carefully chosen words to try to keep riots at bay for just a little longer.

Pleasedontdothat · 27/01/2021 18:17

The high death rate is down to age, obesity, underlying conditions caused by obesity and deprivation - like much ill health in the UK

Not helped by years of chronic underfunding in both health and social care systems and the NHS primarily being used to patch people up when they’re already sick rather than spending money on trying to stop them getting sick in the first place

DWPmisery1972 · 27/01/2021 19:03

I ventured ‘over there’ ... I shouldn’t have. Why do I do it to myself. I’m so depressed that the kids aren’t going back until March now. I don’t know how I’m going to do this homeschooling/ keeping it all together until March. Urgh.

DWPmisery1972 · 27/01/2021 19:08

I just want to be able to go to Starbucks without being suffocated with an itchy mask, and go and buy my favourite dry shampoo without people looking at me judging me that it’s not ‘essential’, I want to be able to take the kids to soft play and let them run riot, I want to be able to go out with my fella and all the kids and cruise around the shops just because we can, and have a pub lunch without having to sign in and swab and get poked and questioned by the woke stasi. I’m so so so bored of it all. Sorry for the depressing post.

Lostinacloud · 27/01/2021 19:13

@wanderings beautifully observed. You are so right. All part of the psychology.

Interesting times afoot over in France. A much rumoured countrywide address from Macron scheduled for this evening has been cancelled. A third lockdown is heavily rumoured to be on the cards but they haven’t leaked what that would look like.
Despite justifications today that they are waiting to see the effects of the 6pm curfew put in place 10 days ago, word on the street is that tonight’s speech has really been cancelled (sadly probably only postponed) because they are very worried about large scale civil unrest.

Vive la révolution I say!

BogRollBOGOF · 27/01/2021 19:16

I'm still largely numb generally.
I knew the Feb H/T was optomistic with the attitude of many.
Couldn't see that Easter was particularly justified with current trends of decline and the arrival of spring. Part-way between the two, not great, could be worse. Well apart from my two rapidly losing the smidgen of patience that they ever had for home schooling.

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TheOrchidKiller · 27/01/2021 19:16

MercyBooth

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/china-starts-using-anal-swabs-test-covid-high-infection-areas
I can see that going down so well over here...

Though I think there was some mention of sewerage being inspected for covid in certain areas of Italy last year, where they'd had big outbreaks. And as part of the A-Z vaccine trial I have consented to sending off a stool sample in the event of testing positive. So there might be something in it (no pun intended).

Not that I am volunteering for this. Even I draw the line somewhere.

thefallthroughtheair · 27/01/2021 19:36

Jourdain
So true. People seem to have no concept that people die or indeed no idea of average numbers of daily deaths from all causes, or average life expectancy and effects on that of socio-economic factors. A while back someone 'over there' made some comment of the 'but it' s terrible to lose a parent' type, to which some v sensible AD type answered that it would be rather more terrible to pre-decease a parent!
Again over there someone's made some remark about a child's grandparents dying - obv in the context that we must lockdown forever until grandparents become immortal. But since when did it become a totally unacceptable tragedy) at population rather than individual level) for a child to lose a grandparent? Surely the normal way of things is that your great grandparents go first, followed by your grandparents (and of course later in life your parents). How do people not know this?!

Iheartmysmart · 27/01/2021 20:06

I lost my best friend to cancer when she was 36, her brother had been killed in a motorcycle accident when he was in his 20’s. I’m pretty sure their parents would have far rather died first. Having to bury both of your children doesn’t bear thinking about.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 27/01/2021 20:30

@jourdain11 yes, I agree. I was chatting to some former neighbours who are temporarily based in Oz, and one of them said "every death is a death too many". I didn't really know how to respond. Death is part of life. Zero mortality is not an option. I don't want to sound callous and I don't think i am particularly callous but... People die, more so as they get older. Risk is part of life. Confused

Lollyneenah · 27/01/2021 20:30

Well I've had a fucking day of it Ad's. So glad I have this thread to land at. I full on chased 2 rogue covid positive heroin addicts today (they dislike isolation). One escaped and got on a train so there's that.

I ended up finishing off my shift by meeting my best mate for a takeaway kfc on the beach, a lot of swear words were said Grin. Weve both had covid and honestly I fucking needed it.

Taswama · 27/01/2021 20:32

Where are you getting your stats on covid deaths by age please?

Also, welcome to the thread @DWPmisery1972 . I don't have an eating disorder but have increasingly become a bit obsessive about the bits of my life I can control, like my step count, what the kids eat.

Jourdain11 · 27/01/2021 20:40

I actually didn't feel too desolate about the 8 March potential starting to open up date. Like others, thought Feb would be too early considering the dismal message painted. And it's better than the "nothing will change till after Easter" warnings.

DD2 was in floods yesterday and I couldn't figure what was the matter. Eventually she said, "because it's Tuesday" and on Tuesday she has her late dance class and she and dad always get a Leon burger on the way home! Not sure if it was the dance, the burger or the erosion of normality that was getting her down, but dad whisked her out to Leon (in the pouring rain) and they came back like drowned rats, munching on soggy burgers... but at least it put a smile on her face! I feel sad about her dance though. It's really her Thing, and while I'm not thinking she'll end up at RBS or anything like that, she is good at it. There's a limit to what one can do in a bedroom. And we have to be mindful of our long suffering neighbours below...

I'm prepping for a phased return to work and while it's good to be getting back into it, the current casebook makes for terrifying reading. There are "urgent" referrals from before Christmas which haven't even been triaged yet and usually they would have at least been seen and assessed. This is the fucking legacy of lockdown, where people with conditions that thrive in isolation have been, er, isolated.

I'm half tempted to make a complementary series of "Look them in the eyes" posters.

Small child ... "and tell him that it doesn't matter that he can't go to school with his friends."
Woman ... "and tell her it's right that she's been trapped at home with her abuser"
Teenagers ... "and tell them it's okay that their grades are going to be based on a postcode lottery"

Jourdain11 · 27/01/2021 20:47

Btw, an interesting interview with an epidemiologist on R4 PM, who was implying that the timetable is overly cautious and said that BJ's fears of schools' opening causing a surge in infections are inaccurate, as this hasn't happened previously, anywhere!

flower11 · 27/01/2021 21:26

The issue with schools is the unions. BJ needs to grow a pair of balls and deal with them. He see's them as more important than the children of this country. It's so fucked up and getting beyond ridiculous

DWPmisery1972 · 27/01/2021 21:27

Taswama I feel like I have control over nothing else but I can control that

I can stop myself eating, it’s like I’ve been ‘good’ if I haven’t eaten. I feel sick just writing it because it’s so bloody stupid. I feed the kids whatever they want because I don’t want them to catch on and end up like me, obsessed with numbers and scales and calories and hours before I can eat and cutting things in a certain way. It’s why if I do eat I eat alone, I’m too ashamed to eat in front of anyone else. Sorry for more depressing stuff.

Jourdain11 · 27/01/2021 21:37

@DWPmisery1972 for most people, disordered eating is about control. It's why this is a very difficult time for people, because control over virtually everything else has been taken away, and that just makes it harder to resist the urges.

You mustn't feel ashamed. The incidence of EDs has massively gone up during this pandemic and many people with existing conditions are experiencing a worsening.

Try to find little ways to encourage or push yourself. Even if it is just doing 1 meal a week where you don't calorie count, or trying to eat with others twice a week. Making a start is totally better than nothing and will help you to feel more positive about things.

I hope I'm not being too preachy!

BogRollBOGOF · 27/01/2021 23:05

I seem to be comfort snacking a bit now. It wore off over the summer, and I got back to usual, but spending hours each day on rather unergonomic wooden chairs, comforting and cajoling the DCs at our pathetic attempts at learning, and the weather being unappealling for getting out, there's got to be something while mentally being on standby.

I have a little boy snuggled up with me on the sofa being very cute. Hopefully he should go dozy soon... he's blinking a lot. He just needs a huge amount of comfort at the moment. Good job I can still carry him!

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DWPmisery1972 · 27/01/2021 23:11

Not at all jourdain, I really appreciate the support, honestly. It’s getting me though the day (and night!).

I’m seeing my boyfriend this weekend as we’re a bubble and I will try and have a meal with him without ‘thinking’ about it too much- thank you for the motivation Flowers

SirSamuelVimes · 27/01/2021 23:22

I'm back to comfort eating in a big way. I know it's not good for me in the long term but in the short term the chocolate and crisps and bagels are keeping me going. Inevitably, I am getting very fat now, but I don't have it in me to care right now. Hopefully when spring springs and we are on our way out of this, I will be able to turn it around.

MercyBooth · 27/01/2021 23:28

@SirSamuelVimes Solidarity. I am going through the same. Flowers