ADs and their pampered poodles

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Here we are again, gaining sequels even more rapidly than the Fast and the Furious...

I know that this is pure spite and taking the headline totally out of context, just like the papers do with everything, but I keep thinking this:

100,000 dead - and lockdown didn't save them.

As Dumbledore would say "just because its in your head, it doesn't mean its not real".

Eating disorders are so awful because unlike drugs, smoking or alcohol, you can never go cold turkey with food. It's an issue that has to be faced several times a day.

My best friend at school had anorexia and OCD and they completely consumed her. After contact fizzled out about a year after leaving school, she's never been inclined to be in touch. I doubt that she's nostalgic about school days, and it wasn't the happiest ending to the frienship as it reached a level of control and intensity where I had to pull away for my well-being too. I did manage to see a reference to ver via her mum's fb profile a few years ago, and I'm glad she's alive, not something that I took for granted with the difficulties she had at times.

It has been reported that eating disorders are being triggered at present, which is no great surprise.
We are here on this thread though. Not a cure, but it can be a relief just getting it out of your head.

True. Might be spiteful sure but not untrue. But I am not sure you really are being spiteful at all.

I've nearly thrown something at the tv this morning looking at Piers Morgan lamenting over the death of Doris. Yes it was sad but she was 95, and very likely to have popped off anytime.
Try going into your sons room daily to check that he's ok and hasn't actually tried to end his young life as that's what I'm worried about right now.

And breath .

I worry the same about DD1. She's 10. When will people care about her?

To DWPmisery1972 bakingcupcakes and everyone else struggling - I have no words of wisdom but you aren't alone. These AD threads have been a life saver for me over the past year - just a space where people chat in a rational manner about stuff, questioning and reasoning the increasingly obscure Roolz, and generally being an oasis of calm (of sorts!) in a mad world - somewhere where you aren't accused of killing people by daring to go for a two hour walk, or run, or cycle 50 miles.

I was really struggling this week with depression exacerbated by hormones - my Monday run was cancelled due to snow and Tuesday's due to ice. Today I went out (I'm only doing week 3 of C25K so nothing impressive) and it's made a huge difference to my mental outlook. I NEEED the gym if I can't cycle. My knees won't hold up for much more running so I'm really hoping the gyms open again soon and I can get back off the anti depressants that have unfortunately become necessary again since last summer

dingit same happens in my house - I can't afford to replace the TV so have stopped watching the News or GMB or anything related to Press Announcements!! . And I agree totally with you about Doris - she was lovely and sparky but 95 is well above average life expectancy and its the natural aspect of life that a life will be concluded with death. We all die!

@Blobby10 I have arthritic knees and was worried about running. I worked on quads, hamstrings, glutea and calf muscles to get the support structure stronger and I have had results nothing short of miraculous. Six years ago I was in tears begging for knee replacements (it just popped up on my Facebook memory) and two weeks ago I managed my first proper lunge jump 🤪 concentrate on perfect form when doing squats and other leg exercises to reduce strain on joints whilst building strength.

Remember that your pulmonary and cardiovascular systems will get stronger long before your joints do, so take it easy and repeat weeks as necessary. I love the C25k because it helped start this ex fatty non runner into one of those annoying healthy slim types who won’t shut up about the benefits of exercise 😎

@DWPmisery1972 I’m a great believer in physical stuff hanging on to negative energy. So glad you are enjoying that feeling of banishing your ex’s negative energy to the bin! 😀

I never did do daytime TV and the lifestyle end of current affairs. It's paying off these days

@Blobby10

dingit same happens in my house - I can't afford to replace the TV so have stopped watching the News or GMB or anything related to Press Announcements!! . And I agree totally with you about Doris - she was lovely and sparky but 95 is well above average life expectancy and its the natural aspect of life that a life will be concluded with death. We all die!

And surely it is better for her to be bright and sparky and then die rather than becoming more and more weak and frail and confused over many years before her weak and battered body can finally take no more.

[quote Worldgonecrazy]@Blobby10 I have arthritic knees and was worried about running. I worked on quads, hamstrings, glutea and calf muscles to get the support structure stronger and I have had results nothing short of miraculous. Six years ago I was in tears begging for knee replacements (it just popped up on my Facebook memory) and two weeks ago I managed my first proper lunge jump 🤪 concentrate on perfect form when doing squats and other leg exercises to reduce strain on joints whilst building strength.

Remember that your pulmonary and cardiovascular systems will get stronger long before your joints do, so take it easy and repeat weeks as necessary. I love the C25k because it helped start this ex fatty non runner into one of those annoying healthy slim types who won’t shut up about the benefits of exercise 😎[/quote]
C25k turned me from the girl who loathed PE and came in a lap behind everyone else in the 1500m in a wheezing mess of shin splints, to someone who would normally rin 2 or 3 half marathons a year for fun.

Actually, I managed to do 2 HMs last year, one in Feb before the insanity and one before the lull in October wore off. Plus a race in September.

Our pavements seem to have mostly emerged from the ice again. The fresh snow was lovely, but it did turn to ice yesterday, especially after the drizzle started.

to everyone struggling. I'm still reading even if I'm not commenting much.

And hello to newbies (and lurkers).

And surely it is better for her to be bright and sparky and then die rather than becoming more and more weak and frail and confused over many years before her weak and battered body can finally take no more.

I could not agree more with this. I adore my MIL, she's been in my life for 30 years. I've posted on here before that she rather hoped to die of Covid as she has vascular dementia and as an ex-nurse she knows what's coming for her. None of us is looking forward to the next couple of years.

Worldgonecrazy normally I am in the gym each morning and have really strong legs but just can't work out at home due to lack of space/equipment/motivation! Cycling 150+miles a week last summer gave me quads of steel (and a really pert bum) but its too risky to cycle round here at the moment as the roads are in a rubbish state so my legs are weak as a kitten hence the knee issues.

Nanny and DrRameses entirely agree. My grandmother had a horrible existence - her heart was strong but she kept having mini strokes and falling over as well as advancing dementia. She spent the last 4 years of her life in a home, hating every minute of it and begging to go home. She was 97, doubly incontinent, could only recognise Dad, - she was SO unhappy that it was the best thing. I don't think any of us would claim it was a 'sadly' death.

BogRollBOGOF I am enjoying the C25K programme - I used to run across the fields with the dogs for 5-6 miles each Saturday and am gutted that I dont have access to dogs or fields these days . Have done 2 HM but absolutely no desire to run that far again!

A bus stop near me bears the legend "bending the rules costs lives".

It is deserving of a piece of paper that says "Does Cummings know this?", and "HM Hypocrites" stuck over "HM Government".

@wanderings

I’m quite enjoying fighting the good fight “over there”, although I don’t recommend it, it’s draining; and I feel nervous when I get the emails “you have been mentioned in a post”. I’ve been called a mental case; the irony! I see stating my views as an exercise in keeping my own mind intact, and not succumbing to Saint Boris’s brainwashing. He might be totally muddled on herd immunity, but there’s no doubt he’s trying to achieve “herd mindset”. He will fail. The illegal raves are proof of that.

And if any those moralising “look them in the eyes” adverts start appearing on bus stops near me, I swear I am going to sneak out in the dead of night and give them some masks; I.e, amendments. Saint Boris needs to look us in the eye, and swear, on his father’s grave, that he is doing the right thing by destroying the economy, education, and mental health.

Wanderings - you are doing a stirling job over there - putting things very eruditely and I am trying to offer support where I can. Keep up the good work!!

Thank you everyone for your kind words, you don’t know how much it means when I’m here alone- makes me feel like my house is full of people telling me everything is going to be ok. Honestly, thank you.

I’m so sorry to the posters worrying about your children- I am also concerned about this with teens and pubescent children- they have so much going on in their heads as it is, and with this on top it could just tip so many of them over the edge (with their ‘rational’ part of the brain not being mature enough yet) You’re all in my thoughts. A good friend says to me: whenever I walk up a huge hill and I feel like I can’t make it to the top, I don’t look to the top, I look back on how much I’ve already achieved. I know this is hard, and it’s dragging, and it feels like there’s no end in sight, but think about all the things you have overcome in the last 10 months, be proud of yourselves for getting through it, and I really hope that hill top is coming for all of us.

Well done all that have been getting out and exercising, I’m thinking of going for a walk when the kids go to their dads this arvo, so I’m on my own and don’t need to worry about rogue kiddies slipping/running into the road/causing a granny to die by walking too close to her

Morning (almost afternoon) everyone

Here's a question dh and I were debating yesterday. If x amount of people are asymptomatic, showing no signs so therefore not getting tested, how do the authorities know how many? I know that there's random testing trials going on, which will find asymptomatic people but what about the ones that aren't found? How does the government/PHE/NHS know how many there are, is it guesswork? Also, do asymptomatic people go on to develop it properly or what? Or do they have a little bit of a cough/sniffle/ temperature which they put down to a cold?
If I thought I'd got it every time I had those symptoms I'd never be at work!
Thoughts, AD's?

I don't know the answer to your question @Curlygirl06 but from my reading, asymptomatic transmission hasn't been proved, and these statements from government that '1 in 3 people have covid but don't realise it' are a scaremongering lie. They don't know that at all.
Incidentally, Boris uttered that wimpy get out clause so beloved of politicians... 'lessons have been learned'... This is definitely a bingo phrase and you think his advisors could have come up with something better.

@Curlygirl06 I think the estimation of numbers of asymptomatic cases comes from several different places. The Diamond Queen cruise ship was a useful early ‘experimental lab’ as it showed that only a be minority of people exposed to coronavirus go on to develop symptoms, most of the passengers were not affected at all, some were carrying the virus but were not ill. I realise that the thinking on this keeps changing but I was under the impression that the problem wasn’t so much with asymptomatic spread as the viral load wasn’t big enough to cause problems but with presymptomatic spread - people unwittingly infecting other people in the couple of days before their symptoms develop. The ONS survey shows the numbers of people who have the virus at any one time but I haven’t seen a breakdown of what percentage have symptoms.

Good question @Curlygirl06 Out of the grand total of 7 people I know who have had a positive test, only 3 were showing any signs. The rest were picked up as part of random testing and never developed any symptoms. I suppose unless everyone is tested on a regular basis we’ll never know the answer to that. Think though a lot more have had it than have been recorded.

I swore most emphatically at the bus this morning whose only crime was having one of “those” posters on the side of it. And I’m usually quite friendly towards the no.19 when it’s outside my bedroom window.

@Dingit
"Try going into your sons room daily to check that he's ok and hasn't actually tried to end his young life as that's what I'm worried about right now."
I have no words of advice, but just wanted to say to you, & to any parent having to live with this overwhelming dread, that I understand. We went through it for years with one of our kids. There have been moments in the last year where my old habits of checking on them have resurfaced (although things are ok at the moment). It's exhausting, & used to feel like the worst pain ever, to see your child so unhappy.

We used to spend a lot of time doing comforting things just to get through the days, & if that meant watching CBeebies & colouring in (yes, for a teenager) instead of doing school work, then that's what we did.

There was a letter in The Times yesterday from paediatricians highlighting the rise in poor mental health in children as a result of lockdown. They also acknowledged the toll on parents.

I am pleased to say I have just finished my January This Girl Runs virtual challenge - I have run 150km this month. I might sign up for something similar for Feb, just to have something to push me out the door to exercise.

If anyone is keen to exercise more at home - I really recommend Fiit. A whe range of classes - cardio, strength, yoga, pilates, barre, mobility. There is a free version you can try and you don't need very much space or equipment.

@dingit Sorry, I missed your post earlier. We had a situation with DS a few years ago to the point where we were advised by his mental health team to lock away certain items and not leave him unattended at any point. It was a truly awful time and I feel for you.

We got through it in a similar way to Orchid and also a lot of driving around at random times of the day and night. Think DS was comfortable talking in the car because it wasn’t face to face so less pressure on him.

It makes me really angry that young people are being called snowflakes and told that they have no resilience. Don’t get me started on the war/evacuees comments.