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ADs may have buggered boilers but we haven't got the clap

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BogRollBOGOF · 09/01/2021 15:46

The saga continues to continue with more sequels than a trilogy of trilogies...

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DrRamsesEmerson · 10/01/2021 10:29

All good questions, @TheOrchidKiller, and I bet we can guess the answers.

On the other hand, the job of politics is to make those difficult decisions, balancing all the relevant factors. And the Government has basically abdicated from that responsibility. They hide behind the scientists, but it’s unfair to blame the scientists; the blame lies squarely with Johnson and his merry men.

BogRollBOGOF · 10/01/2021 10:37

Mine are managed through time allowed on their tablets. We've got a parental controls app that allows us manage their time through using our phones. We do have to be careful to hide the remotes on the TVs during a tech ban!

I struggle with star charts, I forget too easily to update things if it wasn't instant, or what I promised. Far too much scope for error and arguements!

It is wearing.

They did make me laugh in the summer. The cheeky sods deleted the app from my phone thinking it was great that I couldn't block them any more... I also couldn't enable them. Grin After having to earn all tech with chores for a week, I think they are unlikely to repeat that...

4 hour feeds- that's code for an evening of cluster feeds isn't it? Wink
I think it's abundantly clear that the men involved in managing this situation are little more than sperm donors and flinging money around so the little women get by comfortably or get staff in. They're not really the type that end up resorting to their equivilent of teaching y9 on p5 in a heat wave with a child hiding in their clothes because there was no other option for childcare.

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Funkypolar · 10/01/2021 10:40

I’m surprised that the government doesn’t take babies away from Covid positive mothers to a state crèche. For their “safety.”

MrsMerrick · 10/01/2021 10:45

Thank you @smallandimperfectlyformed. Gosh, these threads move quickly - I've spent the last few days glued to a computer for work, so less time for reading other stuff!

It has been so nice to see pupils again, even via a screen Smile

Strategies for helping to get things done for those with neurodiversities

Slightly off-topic, but v much recognising the panicky, pressured, teary, 45 minutes to do a five minute task - these are a few things which have helped, if they can be of any use to anyone else:

  1. Having a sense that there are loads of tasks to do can induce a feeling of brain freeze - too much to do, all pushing down on you, which one do I start with, arrgh can't do any of it!

Two things to try:

  • a big picture overview on a large sheet of paper/whiteboard (provides a sense of order, knowing what is coming up, knowing you are less likely to be ambushed by events, being less likely to miss a date)
  • writing tasks down on separate cards/sticky notes (allows you to divide and conquer and focus/concentrate on one thing at a time)
  1. Not wanting to do a task because someone is telling you to do it
  • having tasks on a board or on a checklist can really help (it depersonalises it somehow, rather than someone bossing you to do things - especially useful if you reframe the checklist as stages of a task rather than things to do)
  • playing 'pick a card' with tasks - this was suggested by someone on here years ago. Pick one at random, and that's what you do next! (Again, it's less personal, the element of randomness is fun, and it supports focus on one thing at a time)
  1. Just not wanting to do something
  • take the pressure off - give yourself permission NOT to do it
  • what is the smallest possible step you could do towards getting it done which you could face right now? E.g. I don't want to send the email - ok, you don't have to do that - could you just draft it? write down three key points to include? find the email address? open an email? open your email programme?
  • you don't have to do it all - can you work on it for 17 minutes? 15? 12? 7? 5?
  1. Noticing, acknowledging and celebrating what has been done provides a sense of achievement and motivation to do more.
ISaySteadyOn · 10/01/2021 10:49

Wow! I may need to apply those for myself. Thank you!

TheOrchidKiller · 10/01/2021 10:51

I get what you're saying, @DrRamsesEmerson, & I actually don't envy anyone trying to work out what to do for the best for millions of people right now.

I'm not expressing this very well. I'm angry & upset but haven't got the gumption to do anything constructive other than to snipe anonymously on SM, in a not very articulate way.

I recall Chris Whitty saying last March when there were public calls for lockdown that if they imposed something too soon & too restrictive people would get weary & give up. I know they're stuck between a rock & a hard place, but here we are again, & people are thoroughly fed up, and it's not surprising.

I'm fed up & upset about the impact of restrictions on the people I know. Everyone seems to have some sort of low level depression, on a scale I've never seen before.

MrsMerrick · 10/01/2021 10:55

@ISaySteadyOn - there may be an element of tried and tested through personal experience BlushWinkGrin

Buzzinwithbez · 10/01/2021 11:21

Interesting, sorry for the daily mail link, but we're back to talking about herd immunity because so many people are currently infected.
It's this because they're realising lockdowns don't work so trying to give us the silver lining that it's been shit since September ( and forever in Leicester ) and still we have a seasonal virus doing what seasonal viruses do.
I'm also confused why they think the vaccine will help with this, given that vaccinated 90 year olds can't visit their vaccinated husbands in care homes.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130575/amp/Neil-Ferguson-says-herd-immunity-achieved-UK-end-year.html?__twitter_impression=true

BogRollBOGOF · 10/01/2021 11:24

[quote MrsMerrick]@ISaySteadyOn - there may be an element of tried and tested through personal experience BlushWinkGrin[/quote]
When I taught, I worked best by having a weekly timetable with space for annotations so I could see what needed doing when and what space was avaliable. On my PGCE, I initially floundered on organisation until I picked up this method.

I posted late on the last thread about feeling resentful at present, and one of the things is that I have to put so much into resourcing the tasks so both DCs can do them, often while having a conflict with the other. At least the work is coming in in better time than last time, up to 9:30, but it's just so intrustive into my life.
If I was WFH, it just wouldn't happen, I would have to prioritise work and anyone sensible in society would understand.
But letting the DCs flounder educationally because I want a run in daylight or to do chores (which I find difficult to do with others around) seems to be a poor justification to me, school, society and most importantly the DCs themselves.

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CoffeeWithCheese · 10/01/2021 11:34

The schools are placing so many demands on parents this time which is just adding the pressure on.

DD2 has calls twice a day where a parent must be clearly present in the background, DD1 once a day - so no getting on with work then as you need to be on WITH your child and paying attention to what the work is (and they're ticking things off for safeguarding. Then they're adding in reading groups with the same "parent needs to be in shot" restriction - and the work is so crap that DD2 in particular needs constant help with it. DH has now taken every morning the kids aren't in school as leave - but that leave won't last forever (I'm hoping my kids' places are relatively secure for the few days we've got because of them being in as vulnerable.

Then as of tomorrow I have online lectures to do - lots of which involve listening to videos very carefully and analysing unclear speech - which is going to be a bloody pain to do with the kids around. I'm exhausted already.

The Kanban board structure is at least helping DH and DD2 combined to get through the day - I sit and go through all the work posted and write it down on individual post its for her - and she moves things across as she is tackling them. Like in the photo - but mine has widgit symbols just because I have access to them.

ADs may have buggered boilers but we haven't got the clap
110APiccadilly · 10/01/2021 12:18

Saint Boris needs to see that he is only Spiderman, not God.

That's an insult to Spiderman.

ISaySteadyOn · 10/01/2021 12:22

That's what I said Smile

flower11 · 10/01/2021 12:25

Thank you mrsmerrick they are good ideas.

My eldest likes to know what is happening when and what is expected of her. I have started writing her a daily programme so she has a visual reminder. And she is motivated by getting screen time!

I ended up having to to do school in the evening last week and some tasks yesterday morning. When I am at work the children are at home with dh who is working and no school is done. They are fed, watered and not killing each other. That's all we can manage on those days.

justasking111 · 10/01/2021 12:31

I hope no children see these doomsday adverts, still scarred by the nuclear one seen at school when I was a child.

Justgivemewine · 10/01/2021 12:41

@MrsMerrick, your last post is really helpful, I can see those methods helping for my youngest NT dc (and me) too.

After reading that daily mail article I have an exam question for you 😄(sorry but I’m bored😕 and anticipating the following scenario)

A woman has to take her dc1 to his Sen school next week. She will be out of the house twice a day! and on the road 2hours each day at non-regular school run times.

Half the time she will have dc with her, half the time she will be a lone middle aged woman.
How many days will it take for her to get pulled over by the police.

DrRamsesEmerson · 10/01/2021 12:43

Does she live in Derbyshire or Norfolk?

AcornAutumn · 10/01/2021 12:44

@justasking111

I hope no children see these doomsday adverts, still scarred by the nuclear one seen at school when I was a child.
Um....several bus stops in my area have this all over them

It'll be like my friend in Spain, her 3 year old wouldn't go out till she got a promise the killer virus had gone away. So you lie. 🤷🏻‍♀️

ADs may have buggered boilers but we haven't got the clap
AcornAutumn · 10/01/2021 12:45

[quote Justgivemewine]@MrsMerrick, your last post is really helpful, I can see those methods helping for my youngest NT dc (and me) too.

After reading that daily mail article I have an exam question for you 😄(sorry but I’m bored😕 and anticipating the following scenario)

A woman has to take her dc1 to his Sen school next week. She will be out of the house twice a day! and on the road 2hours each day at non-regular school run times.

Half the time she will have dc with her, half the time she will be a lone middle aged woman.
How many days will it take for her to get pulled over by the police.[/quote]
I'm always a lone middle aged woman when I go out. Won't be long. Tuesday is my next care visit.

Justgivemewine · 10/01/2021 12:51

@DrRamsesEmerson, neither, this may increase the odds on her favour 😀

TabbyStar · 10/01/2021 12:52

Justgivemewine Grin

Peer reviewed research from Stanford University concluding that there are not significant benefits from more restrictive lockdowns, there might be small ones but these are unlikely to outweigh the substantial costs and similar outcomes can be achieved with less restrictive measures onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484

LivinLaVidaLoki · 10/01/2021 13:10

[quote Buzzinwithbez]Interesting, sorry for the daily mail link, but we're back to talking about herd immunity because so many people are currently infected.
It's this because they're realising lockdowns don't work so trying to give us the silver lining that it's been shit since September ( and forever in Leicester ) and still we have a seasonal virus doing what seasonal viruses do.
I'm also confused why they think the vaccine will help with this, given that vaccinated 90 year olds can't visit their vaccinated husbands in care homes.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130575/amp/Neil-Ferguson-says-herd-immunity-achieved-UK-end-year.html?__twitter_impression=true[/quote]
@buzzinwithbez
Will be interesting to see how the Ds take that. They don't believe we'll ever reach here immunity and laugh down anyone who suggests it, yet they take his 500k dead as gospel.....

110APiccadilly · 10/01/2021 13:11

That will learn new to RTFT before I reply...

Wearing PPE to breastfeed?! DD is pretty resentful of the time it takes to unclip my bra, she'd be hysterical if she had to wait for me to put on PPE.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 10/01/2021 13:14

@flower11

I think alot of people are infected in hospitals. So harsh lockdown will do nothing. By word of mouth from a nurse one patient affected 20 people on a trauma ward, so all the broken hips and wrists from slips trips and falls. The government need to admit to this, and take it seriously .
@flower11 I've been saying this for ages.

It's believed that up to a 3rd of people in hospital with covid caught it in hospital. So,maybe they wouldn't be so overwhelmed if they had a serious plan for dealing with nosocomial infection. But they can't, because that would mean admitting there's a problem.
In December a friend of mine and then a colleague both lost family members to covid and both caught it in hospital whilst being treated for other things.

When you realise what the impact of care home infection and nosocomial infection are, you can see how fucking futile lockdown is.

justasking111 · 10/01/2021 13:16

I got caught up in a dilemma last night, DS phoned, one child rushed to hospital, could I come round and watch the other two. Of course I could but seeing my car outside their home could have resulted in a knock on the door if a neighbour had been concerned. As I was keeping busy washing up, tidying the doorbell went I was eek. Answered the door thankfully it was Asda delivery man, now never having had a home delivery I was a bit askance and asked him how does it work because I have no bloody idea he stepped back well I managed to get some heavy boxes into porch, jakers 16 pints of milk nearly did for me, no way could I get all these boxes into house, empty and return to driver in a reasonable time frame. Bless him he said leave boxes in porch will collect them again.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 10/01/2021 13:18

Loads of news sites today are pushing the "New study shows teachers at 3 times the risk from covid"

Yeah a study commissioned by a teachers union using a sample of just 3 councils. For fucks sake.