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Did anyone else’s mum have an alternative “fantasy” family whilst you were growing up

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Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 13:56

My mum did. She was obsessed with a professional cricket player. She was in love with him but the love extended to his (thin) wife and (sporty) children.

She would sit at the dinner table telling us merrily what that family had done that day.

I have never met anyone in real life with similar. Is this a thing?

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yellowhighheels · 03/01/2021 15:15

Sorry Justice, just to be clear, did she actually know what the family had been up to (i.e. she knew them locally or followed them in the paper/ on social media if that was around depending on your age), or was this pure fantasy/ speculation?

EvilEdna1 · 03/01/2021 15:18

That is really odd! My family were odd in different ways.

jessstan1 · 03/01/2021 15:21

Not my mum but I had an alternative fantasy family when I was growing up, still do imagine it sometimes.

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MountDoom · 03/01/2021 15:22

I'm sure everyone fantasises about a different life. But no, I don't think it's normal to talk about it in such detail to your children!

jessstan1 · 03/01/2021 15:22

PS: I didn't (and don't) talk about my fantasy family. Obviously I could hardly talk about them to my parents. However they are as real to me today as they were all those years ago. It's a comfort thing, I took refuge in it.

maddiemookins16mum · 03/01/2021 16:20

I had a fantasy family (well parents actually). Maria Von Trapp (actually as long as it was Julie Andrews it did not matter) and Brian Cant.

AriesTheRam · 03/01/2021 16:23

No.Your mum was off her tits.

Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 16:28

Aries Grin

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Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 16:31

Yellow,
She knew them personally
We went to all the matches
At the time county cricket grounds were smaller and if you were a member you could get to know the players with a bit of determination.
They thought we were fans in a nice way-they appreciated us and had no idea.....

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Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 16:39

To those who had fantasy families growing up, presumably you didn’t feel proud of your real family?

Mum is now in her 80s so was brought up on a diet of “here’s what Princess Elizabeth did today”. Not that that explains it.

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OverTheRubicon · 03/01/2021 16:45

My mum sort of did. One of her very accomplished friends, very adoring husband and ridiculously well-behaved daughters. We'd always be hearing about how child x held the door for adults and why wouldn't we and how M's husband had planned her a surprise spa day etc etc.

The rest of us totally hated them as a consequence, so the plan backfired - also the adoring husband turned out to have a long running drinking problem and affair with another of their friends, so it wasn't really all so sunny.

Now I'm really careful not to compare my kids to others. Also, I met the daughters as adults and they're perfectly normal and nice people, nothing like the models of perfection I resented so much back then!

thecatfromjapan · 03/01/2021 16:51

Wow.

I love MN for the constant insight into the quiet derangement of others.

And the insight into the glorious variety of that derangement.

OP, that is quite bananas.

yellowhighheels · 03/01/2021 16:57

Ah gotcha.

Not my mum, but my grandma had high aspirations for her own family (was beside herself when my aunt married a posh Navy officer and my dad went to uni, that kind of thing). She always regretted not marrying someone better off although my granddad was lovely. Total Hyacinth Bucket, bless her.

Anyway, she didn't latch onto one family in this way but we would often hear very detailed reports of other, richer families and what they were doing, as though they were close friends, when in fact, she hardly knew them.

I think my dad feels as you suggest, that her own family was never good enough. I know she was proud. She was just an intelligent, ambitious woman kind of stuck in her place- she says she had a place at university but then the war started and she had to work near home. Then she ended up getting married quite soon after the war simply because of the age she was when the war happened.

So, in her case, I feel as though she felt she had not met her own potential and lived it vicariously through those she thought should be her social 'equals' had she had the chance.

Maybe it was similar with your mum, lack of personal fulfillment rather than not appreciating you and any siblings. Shame she let it spill over into this ongoing narrative though, that sounds quite upsetting to have had to listen to all the time.

thecatfromjapan · 03/01/2021 16:59

It's glorious, really.

I think there is a human tendency to sustain our lives through imagination and fantasy. I mean, the lyrics to 'You Only Live Twice' say it all, really.

And the trick is to hold the demands (&ennui) of real existence and the sustaining, yet possibly enervating, succour of fantasy in balance. An ongoing trick, that we do better or worse at as individuals, and at different points in our lives.

But, wow, a fantasy family, shared with your children, based on a family she was kind of stalking ...

It's definitely the basis of a good novel.

I think you're also suggesting that there may be a bridge here between the culturally-approved past-time of being obsessed with celebrities/Royalty and your mother's fantasy family.

As well as, perhaps, a child's negotiation of reality in early doll-based play.

Interesting stuff!!

thecatfromjapan · 03/01/2021 17:01

Anyway, Justice, you negotiated a quite strange childhood with a sense of humour and a deep tolerance - which suggests you have a generous humanity to your character, that can recognise, acknowledge, accept, and accommodate such potentially tricky behaviour.

Well done you.

Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 17:03

Lol it’s interesting when it’s not happening to you!

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thecatfromjapan · 03/01/2021 17:07

Justiceishalfblind
'Lol it’s interesting when it’s not happening to you!'

Yes.
I think I would have found that really hard.
And it is definitely something I would not (consciously) do as a parent - owing to feeling it is potentially quite painful to the children/family.

I'm guessing she didn't consciously choose to do it. 🤷‍♀️

lilfoxfur · 03/01/2021 17:07

My mum is like this with the Korean boy band BTS. She feels like they're her sons. She plasters her walls with framed pics of them and talks about what they do like a proud mum.

It's weird as fuck but she's a great mum apart from this so I don't make an issue of it.

I think for her it's a kind of escapism

Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 17:08

“We'd always be hearing about how child x held the door for adults and why wouldn't we and how M's husband had planned her a surprise spa day etc etc.

The rest of us totally hated them as a consequence”

So, yes, it started like this with my dad being unfavourably compared.
But at a certain point it slipped over into just living “as if” what John’s family had done that day was our life. It’s hard to explain. We would be told that Daniel was doing so well in the junior cricket team that day - told his scores. Daniel was a child that none of us knew. Then the next day it would be Sue’s admirable (non) eating habits. What she had eaten that week.
The rest of us would sit in silence.

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Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 17:10

Yellow, yes, it was like your grandma except that mum’s great fear was of being “left on the shelf” so she suppressed her considerable intellect and sneered at her brother for displaying his -still does so to this day.

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Evenstar · 03/01/2021 17:12

My MIL had fantasy grandchildren I think, her friend had two granddaughters who were beautifully mannered, well behaved, clever and held up to my DH and I as the way our children should be.

It was also our fault that our children were not like these paragons of virtue as we didn’t take them to museums and stately homes and allowed them to watch unsuitable things on TV (Disney films Confused)

We would drive home seething after hearing another eulogy about these amazing children, who she only knew from her friend’s description of them and an occasional appearance at Grandma’ house dressed in their best for tea and cake.

Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 17:12

Definitely escapism, definitely.

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palmstar · 03/01/2021 17:15

Yes, my mum loved Princess Diana much more than us. She had her photographs everywhere in her house. Walls full of them. We just thought it was a bit bonkers and funny, but Mum was totally serious in her love for her. She never stopped loving her, and still does. As for me....well, she certainly didn't love me.

seanbonbon · 03/01/2021 17:29

Palmstar I'm so sorry. That must be so hard to deal with but please understand that your mother not loving (or being unable to demonstrate her love for) you was her failing - not yours xx

Justiceishalfblind · 03/01/2021 17:33

Yes, this, but as if she started to just tell you about alternative grandchildren as if they were your children’s cousins.

“We would drive home seething after hearing another eulogy about these amazing children, who she only knew from her friend’s description of them and an occasional appearance at Grandma’ house dressed in their best for tea and cake.”

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