Tier 3 home but going on a tier 2 day out?

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Absolutely aware that everyone has had a shitty year, and that we're all suffering and having to make sacrifices.
However, DH and I have had a particularly shitty year, and Xmas, and a friend has offered to look after our son tomorrow if we want to spend a bit of time together. I would really like to travel to our nearest town, which happens to be tier 2 as opposed to the tier 3 we live in. We could have a spot of lunch somewhere and a walk around. I know this is technically not OK but it would be such a treat.

Should we go for it, or will you all rip me a new one for suggesting it?!

I know this is technically not OK but it would be such a treat.

😂😂😂😂😂

No.

Just put up with it a little longer and when the vaccine gets rolled out you can stuff yer face in a restaurant!

If everyone adopts the attitude that some are proposing here our hospitals and health staff will be on their knees!

I know this is technically not OK but it would be such a treat.

And OP deserves this because she is so speshul. Others don’t. But a wee little speshul treat for the people who have found this so hard.

My Christmas was shit because we are a healthcare worker family and all got covid despite only leaving the house for work. YABU.

Do it.

[quote MotherForker]@Yorkshirehillbilly there is no legal obligation to give your name or address to the police. People are daft if they are. And if its North Yorkshire police they well overstepping the mark with their antics.[/quote]
You're wrong, please do not spread misinformation.

There is no legal obligation to disclose personal details to the police if you are a member of the general public who is not suspected of committing a crime or a witness to a crime. If the police have a reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime then you must give your information to them.

In this case, going to a pub or restaurant in T2 while living in T3 is actually a criminal offence. The travel aspect is guidance and not law so isn't an offfence.

Please don't. Go for a local walk instead, as a suggestion.

Please also remember to vote at your next local and national elections. Do not forget that had the Prime Minister acted promptly in March and again in September, you would have most likely had shorter periods of restrictions and fewer people would have died.

I know that many city centres in tier 2 areas have been busy because of people travelling to them to do just this. That's the problem isn't it? Everyone thinks their reason to go for a meal or shopping is better than everyone else's reason.

It is a particularly bonkers situation if you're at the edge of a county, though, isn't it? My town is basically in the catchment area of a city which is now in a lower tier to us - so we can go there (according to the rules) for work, education, and hospitals but not actually to go shopping.
We're so close to the border that half the country walks that I've been taking over the year are technically now not allowed.

There is no legal obligation to disclose personal details to the police if you are a member of the general public who is not suspected of committing a crime or a witness to a crime. If the police have a reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime then you must give your information to them.

I think a lot of people would argue that simply sitting in a bar does not give the police reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed.

I think most of us are pretty pissed off and need a treat! Some of us are utterly pissed off at selfish, self-centred people who think it's ok to break the 'rules'.
Do something in your own local area ffs.

The police here are using ANPR to see where cars are registered then pulling them over.

We've got tier tourists coming to browse the shops and have lunch out etc.

We are all pissed off and in need of a treat. Fact.

Jobs are at risk yet again.

Hospitals are full.

Our govt is a shit show.

Tiers don't work. But, I'm staying home as it's the right thing to do.

Have a little think OP.

I’ve been going for (organised) walks in tier 2 areas, when my area is tier 3. Not actually far away from where I live, and I assumed that, as a form of organised exercise, it was allowed. The company knows where walkers are from because we all filled in forms when we joined.

I’ve looked for clarification (as organised exercise seems to be allowed), but going off this thread, it appears I’m breaking the law. Does anyone actually know whether I am (not just whether you agree or not)? I have another walk booked on Tuesday .

I'm tier 3 alao. DH is off today too and we've had a tough year like most. I'd love to go for a treat in a T2 place, but we won't. Why are you an exception?

@Ithinkim

The police here are using ANPR to see where cars are registered then pulling them over.

We've got tier tourists coming to browse the shops and have lunch out etc.

My car was registered in Sheffield. DHs car Plymouth. We don’t live anywhere near either of those places. They are both registered to the dealer they are leased from, as are tens of thousands of cars on the road. ANPR would be wildly inaccurate.

Surely leased cars are still registered to you personally.

Does anpr check registered keeper or owner? Either way it isn’t illegal to drive from a tier 3 to a tier 2 area so either way the police are overstepping their powers.

@Benjispruce2

Surely leased cars are still registered to you personally.

No. The lease company. If we get a fine it goes to the lease company first then to us (and we’re charged admin) The V5 registered keeper in our case is the lease company.

I’ve googled, apparently it’s registered keeper.....if you have a lease car don’t you still have to put yourself down as the keeper?

Sorry, xpost.

@JacobReesMogadishu

Does anpr check registered keeper or owner? Either way it isn’t illegal to drive from a tier 3 to a tier 2 area so either way the police are overstepping their powers.

Tbh I’ve heard this one before and I call shenanigans. Outside of the police doing their usual Christmas drink driving checks I’m yet to see or hear of anyone being pulled for a car registered out of tier. As you say it’s not even illegal.

You can have a treat without breaking the rules. Get a takeaway lunch, have a picnic.

Loads of T3 restaurants are doing either takeaways or “reheat at home” meals.

We can’t live like we used to, so find new ways to have treats.

@Imissmoominmama

I’ve been going for (organised) walks in tier 2 areas, when my area is tier 3. Not actually far away from where I live, and I assumed that, as a form of organised exercise, it was allowed. The company knows where walkers are from because we all filled in forms when we joined.

I’ve looked for clarification (as organised exercise seems to be allowed), but going off this thread, it appears I’m breaking the law. Does anyone actually know whether I am (not just whether you agree or not)? I have another walk booked on Tuesday .

It's not breaking the law. It's advised that you don't leave your tier, but not law. Going for a walk is not going to infect anyone anyway.

The reality is that localised cases are a patchwork of high and low. You can be tier 3 or 4 and have local cases too low to register the data for personal data protection. Cases are not blanket high/ low across a county/ region, and therefore the risk of being exposed is not universal either.

The government maps showing localised data are very informative.

To add, I can see Tesco from my front garden. It’s in tier 2. Do people really think I’m going to drive six miles to my nearest tier 3 supermarket because ‘rulez’.