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ADs and the hardon colanders

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CruCru · 19/12/2020 17:54

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JamSarnie · 24/12/2020 16:26

We had a good natter and a quick hug.

I walk in the countryside and have seen a few outdoor meetings in the car parks of family and friends with some hugging as they finally see each other and it always makes me smile.

Jourdain11 · 24/12/2020 16:36

I always get a bit weirded out by people going on about when they'll be "allowed" to hug.

I mean, you do or you don't, depending on whether you're comfortable, I think? No need to seek legislative permission!

(Or am I just being mean?)

DH says there are a lot of new signs up in our borough about the deadly new variant and how there's a 1 in 3 chance that you may not even know that you have it Hmm

MercyBooth · 24/12/2020 16:40

Fines withdrawn entirely or dramatically reduced.

www.bindmans.com/news/student-coronavirus-fixed-penalty-notices-withdrawn

Iheartmysmart · 24/12/2020 17:13

Hmm I’m a bit concerned that nobody in the UK has recovered from Covid according to worldometers. However DS has put my mind at rest about some things by telling me that the supermarket where he works has plenty of citrus fruits, broccoli and lettuce.

ADs and the hardon colanders
WingingItSince1973 · 24/12/2020 17:29

I had to hug my uncle today. He and my aunty were attacked by a knife wielding maniac Tuesday night in their own home (mentally deranged neighbour). They only survived because of the courage of my cousin to get the attacker off my uncle and get him outside the house. The neighbour had earlier used a hammer to smash their car and downstairs windows. I broke all rules today and went to see them and my uncle broke down so I hugged him on the sofa while my aunty received a call from the police. My uncle is vulnerable with COPD and now I'm paranoid I've bought covid into the house although they had all sorts of agencies in and out all night and day without masks and social distancing. None of the police wore masks. Fortunately it is all caught on camera and hes locked away waiting for trial. I couldn't not go and see them. We both in tier 3. I've never seen my uncle cry and I'm glad I've seen them and they are really happy I went too.

MercyBooth · 24/12/2020 17:38

@WingingItSince1973 thats horrific. Im so so sorry. I would have done the same as you. Xmas Shock Flowers

WingingItSince1973 · 24/12/2020 17:41

@MercyBooth thank you. It was absolutely terrifying experience. They have has trouble with this neighbour before but no one could have predicted what he did. So glad the magistrates are keeping him in until the trial. My aunty and uncle feel trapped in their own home. Fortunately we are a big family so they aren't alone xxx

smallandimperfectlyformed · 24/12/2020 17:42

@WingingItSince1973 my goodness what an awful experience for your uncle and aunt to endure. I am so sorry that they went through that and glad that they are ok now although obviously they will have upsetting memories. I think by going you were just being a good niece but I can understand your fears. You probably don't have covid, and I know you wouldn't have gone if you had symptoms, but it's really hard not to sometimes feel as though you are a vector isn't it? I hope that you all recover from this experience and I bet the hug helped Flowers

WingingItSince1973 · 24/12/2020 17:52

@smallandimperfectlyformed I must say when my uncle started crying I totally forgot about covid as my natural instinct was to hug him. It was only when I was driving home I thought about it. But they were happy to have me round and go in. Initially I was just going to stand on doorstep and check on them. My aunty had phoned my mum during the attack and she heard everything. It was truly truly awful. I lost my brother 15 years ago to a knife attack (we sound like a right family!) So I couldn't just leave them xxx

NannyGythaOgg · 24/12/2020 17:56

Bloody hell @WingingItSince1973 what a horrific experience for them. You definitely did the right thing - and remember, you can't infect someone unless you are infected.

Can you encourage them to think of it as an exciting experience to share with others. For me at least, reframing it as an exciting story can be quite therapeutic - but that's certainly not right for everyone.

JamSarnie · 24/12/2020 17:57

Gosh WingingItSince1973 that must have been very scary for them and no doubt they needed a hug.

Iheartmysmart · 24/12/2020 18:00

Blimey @WingingItSince1973 that is absolutely awful! Same as others have mentioned, I also wouldn’t have been able to stop myself giving them a hug Flowers

BogRollBOGOF · 24/12/2020 18:04

I absolutely would hug in those circumstances. I hope they'll be OK.

I hugged my friend last week after our run. She was a bit "are people watching" and I was "so what, sod them, it's not actually illegal".
Anyway, I'm short enough that on most people I end up with my face somewhere near their shoulder or armpit Grin

Bollss · 24/12/2020 18:05

Bloody hell @WingingItSince1973 I hope they're ok. I wouldn't have thought twice about a hug in that scenario. Terrifying!

ISaySteadyOn · 24/12/2020 18:10

@WingingItSince1973, your poor aunt and uncle. That's awful. FlowersBrewWine for them and you.

WingingItSince1973 · 24/12/2020 18:15

Thanks all for your replies. I haven't hugged my parents since the summer. I'm a natural hugger. My uncle and aunty I'm sure will be fine eventually. My uncle keeps reliving it and thinking what could have happened. He was slightly cut protecting himself. If my cousin wasn't there then the outcome would have been beyond horrendous. What a way to end such a crappy year!!! Xxx

flower11 · 24/12/2020 18:16

Just catching up. I'm in my pyjamas cooking the ham before going into work for another night shift. Tomorrow I will cook my first ever Christmas dinner, really missing my parents. Dh has told the children they will get it when ever as mummy needs to sleep first, aiming for 5PM, they will get some snacks at lunch time!

Its strange how something as natural has hugging someone has become such a no go, and something so many people fear.

Pleasenomoreglitter · 24/12/2020 18:22

@WingingItSince1973 that sounds terrifying. I can't imagine not hugging someone in those circumstances. The likelihood you unknowingly have cv and passed it on is tiny, the likelihood you provided comfort and support to your family when they needed it most is unquantifiable 💐

Curlygirl06 · 24/12/2020 18:41

[quote NastyBlouse]@LivinLaVidaLoki I agree, I think a lot of people haven’t experienced it.

My mother and I sat with my grandmother as she died. It was all kinds of things — upsetting, sad, boring, respectful/honouring, occasionally darkly funny and at times oddly life-affirming. After she died, the lovely care home assistant said we were the first family members she’d seen in several months who had sat with their relative as they slipped away. ‘They normally just leave it to us,’ she said.

As a society we tend to euphemise death, don’t talk about it frankly, and of course for many it’s something that happens ‘away’ — in a hospital, nursing home, or a hospice for example. It’s easy to hide away from, if someone is that way inclined. Except a person can’t hide from it. Besides tax it’s life’s only other certainty!

My friend is a funeral celebrant and she has said before that it’s surprising how many people fudge death with not just themselves but also their children. Teenagers being told they can’t go to a funeral because they won’t understand or it’ll be too upsetting for them, for example, or being told that Great Grandma has gone to live on a farm. (Sounds flippant, genuinely isn’t.) Of course it’s a parent’s choice when and how to explain this stuff, but it does contextualise some of this death fear that we see sometimes.[/quote]
A daughter of a friend of mine said that when their dog died she told her little boy it had gone to live on a farm with grandad, who also had recently died. He was about 6 I think? Anyone or anything that died went to this mythical farm. Apparently her boy was very sensitive, but what's going to happen when he finds out?
My grandson is the same age and he's very prosaic about death. He told me once very seriously that you can't say the "d" word sometimes as some people don't like it, but everyone and everything dies and goes to heaven. That kid was raised right.

MercyBooth · 24/12/2020 18:43

A supermarket worker was telling me yesterday that someone tried to break into her elderly mums house and pointed out that criminals will have realised that there are more people on their own this year because of these fucking restrictions.

MercyBooth · 24/12/2020 18:47

Well the bell ringing here was a non starter.

AcornAutumn · 24/12/2020 18:49

@Jourdain11

I always get a bit weirded out by people going on about when they'll be "allowed" to hug.

I mean, you do or you don't, depending on whether you're comfortable, I think? No need to seek legislative permission!

(Or am I just being mean?)

DH says there are a lot of new signs up in our borough about the deadly new variant and how there's a 1 in 3 chance that you may not even know that you have it Hmm

I’m with you.

I think some poor souls might think it’s illegal.

Glad the party people had their fines cancelled. Glad also that no one made a noise round here!

Curlygirl06 · 24/12/2020 18:53

@Recycledblonde

I think we now have less contact with death and have binned a lot of the rituals surrounding it. My parents were adults during WW2 so experienced death of friends plus the prospect of their own death. When I was growing up their friends were older so death was part of my life. The drawing of curtains, wearing black and stopping and bowing ones head when a hearse passed were all things I was taught. I don’t think they are morbid but rather a comfort and also some of the rituals are a sign to others that you might be grieving and not up to light chitchat. I don’t believe that the death of my parents was a tragedy, I was sad, of course, but it was their time. My dc’s all came to the funerals even though the youngest was only 5 and they were not traumatised by it. We discuss what we want at our funerals and it has become a family joke that they’re going to play Britney Spears Kiss me baby one more time at mine and I will be haunting them.😀
I'm having Frank Sinatra singing New York, New York When old Frankie starts belting out the line "start spreading the news, I'm leaving today" it'll make people smile! Discussed it with the kids and everything.
rosettesforjill · 24/12/2020 18:59

@WingingItSince1973 How terrifying for your aunt and uncle. And glad you were able to hug them.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 24/12/2020 19:12

@Curlygirl06 when my mum died DS was 5 and he absolutely worshipped her. I agonised over what and how to tell him.

I decided the best thing to do was be honest, so we talked about how she was very sick and that she had died. I made it clear to him that Its ok to be sad, and miss her, we all will and that's fine. And it's a lot to take in so it's OK to want to ask questions.
I'd been agonising over this all day (he and dh had to travel down the day she died).

DS cried a little and we hugged, he said he'll miss not seeing her but he still loves her. Then he looked directly in my eyes and asked.....
"Can I go play football with [cousin] now"

He still talks about her and asks questions about her.

We forget that the hang ups we have around death, loss and grief are developed as we get older. Children don't have those hang ups and so can handle it a lot better than we do. So we are doing them a disservice by not being open about the whole thing.