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AIBU - friends pay?!

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TrousersTea · 18/12/2020 20:48

NC as worried I might be recognised as this is quite specific. My close friend has recently been promoted. It’s a job shes worked hard in and it’s deserved. Because of Covid though, she’s not getting the pay rise she expected. During a zoom call with her today she commented that she would have to make other plans to try and pay more of the mortgage off now as things are not looking as good as she thought they would at this level in her job. I know that she was previously on 65k so it will have gone up slightly from this, probably more like 68 rather than the 75 she was wanting. We both live in the midlands/north so it’s not like she’s paying London prices.

I don’t want to sound bitchy but this comment has made me annoyed. She lives alone and I live with my partner but even together we earn only slightly more than her! We don’t even live in as nice a house. AIBU here or missing something about living alone?! I feel like it was quite insensitive, I’m the lower earner in our house and couldn’t even imagine earning 50k let alone close to 70, which she knows.

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CherryPavlova · 18/12/2020 21:50

You’re not her friend. She probably deserves better.
You’re not trapped, you’ve made choices and can still make choices.
Jealousy will do you more harm than her.

MorganKitten · 18/12/2020 22:02

You’re coming across very jealous. If you aren’t happy with what you earn maybe look at different roles.

NatriumChloride · 18/12/2020 22:03

YABU. You're not really her friend, are you? You seem jealous of her and bitter.

toocold54 · 18/12/2020 22:03

I don’t know any household that earns anywhere near £65k single or not so how I feel about your post is exactly how you feel about your friends comment.

Also your friend isn’t seeming ungrateful but more disheartened by the fact she thought she would be getting more and had planned for this so now things will have to change.

Crimeismymiddlename · 18/12/2020 22:03

I think maybe your over reacting to a perfectly reasonable complaint. Your friend worked hard, got a promotion and is not getting as much of a pay rise as she should do. It’s not insensitive. Your bitter about not earning as much but living on your own is expensive. You only need to pay half bills compared to her full ones. Maybe it’s time to look at your own career if you feel so strongly.

Sweettea1 · 18/12/2020 22:03

I don't understand what the problem is with this comment so what she wants to get her mortgage paided of so is going to have to pay more 🤔 this upsets you because her house is nicer an costs more an she will have paid it of b4 you. Sounds like jealousy to me

Burnthurst187 · 18/12/2020 22:04

She most probably said it without thinking, most ppl are wrapped up in their own little bubble

pilates · 18/12/2020 22:12

That’s why it’s not a good idea to talk salaries with your friends

VodselForDinner · 18/12/2020 22:13

You’re not really a friend to this woman.

You may dislike her voicing a valid complaint about her promotion, but I bet you’ve spent a lot more time over the years moaning to her about your boyfriend than she has complaining to you about money.

LemonadeFromLemons · 18/12/2020 22:22

I think you’ve got to see yourself as being lucky in other aspects. Do you never moan about your partner to her, maybe she thinks that’s insensitive because she doesn’t have one. I’m not saying she wants one! Just saying it’s possible. And you’d no more be rubbing her nose in it than she was to you about her salary. You’d just be doing what friends do; having a good old chat and a moan :)

CattyP89 · 18/12/2020 22:24

I thought for a second I wish me and my partner made what you and your partner made and then I remembered how lucky I am to have him and our children. There’s more to life than comparing pay packets!
She lives on her own so it’s different she lives in her means and she works hard just because she makes more doesn’t mean life is easier she came to you as her friend!

Tistheseason17 · 18/12/2020 22:25

Your friend has not compared herself to you or gone, poor me, I earn so much.
She has said she hoped for a pay rise with a promotion - THIS WOULD BE A NORMAL EXPECTATION and she's ok to be peeved.

Meanwhile all of your follow up posts compare your earnings to hers. YOU are the one with the issue - not her. YABVU.

GabsAlot · 18/12/2020 22:33

she wasnt saying oh look at your wage and look at mine she was tlaking in context about her promotion not being what she thought it was

Brefugee · 18/12/2020 22:36

Because she’s complaining about being on circa 65k at the least. She knows I will never earn close to that. Just thought it was insensitive, hardly living in poverty is it !

you're not a really good friend are you? Presumably if she's earning 65k she has trained and worked hard. Now she's got a promotion she probably has more responsibility at work. And if this promotion would usually bring a large increase in salary, she's right to be miffed she's not getting it. I would be in her position. And looking for a different job.

As for you being stuck on your 25k - retrain to something that pays more and get a job. And if it only pays 27k instead of the 35k you were expecting - you can keep quiet about it because a pay rise is a pay rise.

Cam2020 · 18/12/2020 22:38

Because she’s complaining about being on circa 65k at the least. She knows I will never earn close to that. Just thought it was insensitive, hardly living in poverty is it !

She also has the privilege of paying 40% tax. Two people, earning a combined equivalent income are probably not and probably, therefore, take home more money.

Regardless, your friend is allowed to be disappointed - you sound bitter.

Motorina · 18/12/2020 22:46

@TrousersTea

Suppose so, it just seems like a huge salary to someone like me, trapped in a 25k job!
Churning some numbers...

Say she earns 65k, and you and your other half £75k between you. You earn £25k, so your partner earns £50k

Her take home after tax is £3860 pcm.
Your household take home is £1720 + £3140 pcm. A total of £4860.

Between you, you bring in around £1000 pcm more than her, after tax. And share the mortgage/rent and utilities costs between you.

It's a huge salary on paper. But, on balance, you're significantly better off because your tax burden is lower, and because you share the costs of running your home.

ZenNudist · 18/12/2020 22:46

Just realised I dont know what dh earns. It's a bit hard to tell because he is self employed so I dont have a clue. He knows what I earn but that's because work write me a letter each year with my latest salary.

Motorina · 18/12/2020 22:47

(Figures from www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php)

AutoIncorrect · 18/12/2020 22:51

I’m struggling to see how you’ve managed to make this about you? She wants to pay her mortgage off quicker so now has to to make other plans to do so because she didn’t get the pay rise she was expecting. It’s literally nothing to do with you or what you earn whatsoever.

peboh · 18/12/2020 22:54

Lol. Your situation. So many people right now would be bloody grateful for a job with a salary of 25k.
Your friend is rightfully frustrated that she's worked her arse off, made plans surrounding the pay rise that is expected with the job to only be told actually that isn't going to happen. You've no idea what kind of pay rise she's got.

Sohardtochooseausername · 18/12/2020 22:55

I’m the pal who’s cloned the career ladder while my friends took years out to go travelling and work part time to look after their kids etc. I don’t talk to my fitness about what I earn to them but I might talk about when I’m disappointed with lack of recognition. My good friends don’t care about what I earn, they support me regardless. The poor friends are resentful and I’m learning to put some distance between me and them.

Sohardtochooseausername · 18/12/2020 22:55

Cloned? Autocorrect is on fire tonight. I meant took the career ladder

Sohardtochooseausername · 18/12/2020 22:56

Fitness? Bloody hell. Friends

Summerdayshaze · 18/12/2020 22:58

I’d love to be trapped in a £25k job! I earn much less than that, working full time and a single parent. No chance of home ownership either. Just count yourself lucky!

katy1213 · 18/12/2020 23:00

What are you saying? That single people should have their salaries capped?
You sound bitter. You'd be my ex-friend if I found out that you'd been posting online on my about my salary which is none of your business.

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