ADs building hadron colliders out of used yoghurt pots

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... whilst waiting to see if the kids are or are not going to school next week and walking with imaginary cows.

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Acorn which thread is that?

It’s one about having to isolate due to an app notification which clearly isn’t based valid
Happily OP has realised she doesn’t have to

The removal of actual doctors from this situation is really worrying.

The removal of actual doctors from this situation is really worrying

VERY I found the thread.

Would love to hear more about your dads experiences when you have time

Looks like preachy Dr Hilary Jones forgot to wear a mask in a pharmacy

This bloody thread keeps disappearing from my watch list despite the many times ive posted on it. I add it on then it disappears again.

Grrr I’m awake again at this God unearthly hour for the umpteenth time in a row. Getting a bit fed up with the lack of sleep now. Pretty sure I slept perfectly well before all this!

I'm awake too, but mine is bloody teenager on her way to bed at 3-something waking me up. And then I go downstairs to find a load of dirty pans because she cooked pasta at God knows what time (because she was sleeping when I made tea). Still, she has no job to go to because cafés are closed.

The thing from the Off Guardian article that jumped out at me was that they are having to put all these rules in place because people actually aren't worried because there isn't a great danger, and if we were really in the middle of something scary then people would naturally keep to the rules.

I'm glad that Boris is now saying make your own decision around vulnerable people at Christmas, though I'm worried that because we haven't been treated like responsible adults all the way through there are now more people who will say fuck this, I'll do what I want because the majority of us (57% in the last survey I heard) no longer trust the Government.

Here's an article about weighing up risk to granny. My DM has decided not to come for Christmas day, even though we've had Covid. I think she'll be fine, I'll take her dinner round to her, but she is very fatalistic about Covid when in fact she's recently had mini-strokes and heart problems, which are much more likely to see her off in the coming months or years lockdownsceptics.org/the-risk-to-granny/

A nocturnal teenager! I have one of those as well but for some reason he’s the tidy version and would more likely wake me by doing the washing up! No idea where he gets it from, I’m slovenly at best.
I’ve just got into a bit of a comments argument with someone on our local paper website. Merely asked for some context around local positive test numbers and got called a Covid denier and all sorts. Why is it so frowned upon to question things you read all of a sudden? I would have thought that was a good thing but no, only blind acceptance is permitted.

Gah. Feeling very pissed off today. Was foolishly getting my hopes up about the Tier review, but in the current climate I can't see them making any positive changes. "Following the science" only works one way.

DH pissed off at political point scoring and undermining by politicians.

Who was it that said at the start of the year they were a rule abiding citizen and actually it's the underhand, manipulative behaviours of our Govt that are now making them say "oh fuck off!"?? I'm in that camp too. Feel constantly gaslighted. How do you feel optimism for the future when the country has been so easily and willingly manipulated?

Phew! Rant over.

My nocturnal baby made me so tired last night I had to wake up DH to keep me awake while feeding! (Don't feel we can take the easier option of bed sharing as it's strongly advised against for babies with low birth weight.)

She is snuggled up to me now though and is very cute.

@TabbyStar we are in the same position as you. We’ve all had covid too but my DMIL has decided to now stay at home on her own (like she has been for months on end) because the scare stories have finally got to her.
I’m so upset for her because before all this she was honestly never at home. She is in her 70’s but was always on a train or bus going somewhere to visit relatives or different towns and friends. Lately she hasn’t left her small town or even her home for weeks and the way she talks about the situation has significantly changed. Now she sounds scared and anxious and questioning whether the outside world is safe, it’s an utter travesty and I’m so angry about it. This ruling by fear is so very dangerous and like other posters I am gobsmacked that so many people in this country aren’t questioning more.

I clicked on the wrong thread I've got open this morning and saw "Christmas isn't cancelled, it just won't have a body count" and I actually proper laughed.
Hoping we get downgraded here today.

Peston also tweeted that Christmas rules for England unlikely to change. Phew

Morning all. I don't think we'll get downgraded here. Rates are loads lower than they were but that won't matter now London is in the shit. No offence to any of you that live there (I sympathize) but the North has been shown what Boris and his pals think of it and it's not gone down well.

I really can't imagine normal life now. There's slebs being vaccinated on the news but then in direct comparison they're on about cancelling Christmas.

Well it's this vaccine gonna work or is it not?

Just commenting on a previous post, I only listen to radio 4 extra (no news or ads) or radio 3 sometimes, although they still have news. I’m sick of my enjoyment being spoiled on commercial radio by the patronising messages! I’m trying not to let this mess impinge on my life whilst at home because once you step outside there is no escape from it. And I do work in a hospital as well so I’m surrounded most days.

I’m still seeing 80 year old mum who lives on her own so technically in our bubble. Except she’s not as she refuses to be kept at home and does visit a few friends and family who also are on their own. She thinks it’s all a massive over reaction and is not shy of telling everyone!

Why is it so frowned upon to question things you read all of a sudden

I don't know, I'm finding myself censoring myself on Twitter, which I have a lot of work people on, but also our local FB, although actually that's been surprisingly non-dementor-ish. I think it's not wanting to upset people who will interpret it as you wanting them dead. There's a lot of this about at the moment with "cancel culture", particularly of women.

Anyway, it was me Sonic that is now "oh fuck off". Still there!

WRT my DM at least she is looking forward to getting out, though I'm worried the "new strain" is going to be the next worry stopping her....

Re covid and unpleasant deaths. I do think that people who spout this crap about 'visiting a covid ward etc' are probably mostly quite young and have never actually come face to face with death.
I am of the opinion now that the only good death is one where you die or are killed instantly - so instantly you wouldn't even register anything going on, so a severe accident, stroke, heart attack, aneurism (there's probably a few more) or when you die in your sleep in your own bed, which would be my preferred method. I have sat with too many dying people, and no death is easy to watch, and probably not that easy to go through. On the scale of bad hospital deaths, shuffling off your mortal coil while unconscious on a ventilator is probably one of the least traumatic methods for the dying person. (And, tbh, not that traumatic for the person watching, other than the sadness of it. I sat with a friend while she died, struggling to breathe and semi conscious, of lung cancer. I really can't imagine covid could be anywhere as near as bad as that.)

Well said, Reedwarbler.

Didn't we once have a discussion about how most of us on these threads have seen death and that's what makes us ADs?

Yes, @ISaySteadyOn I think we did. See, I'm getting on a bit and tend to repeat myself a lot these days!
Got my fil's funeral today. It would be blowing a gale and pouring with rain, wouldn't it? And it was such a lovely sunny day yesterday.

@Reedwarbler Yep, very well said. Having seen a few deaths in varying degrees of awfulness I would also imagine sedated on a ventilator would be a relatively peaceful way to go.
I hope all goes well for the funeral today. My thoughts are with you and your family

Mine too.

I hope your FIL's funeral goes well, @Reedwarbler. I know it's impractical but I always think it should be raining for a funeral anyway, sunshine seems inappropriate somehow. Silly thought. Thinking of you and your DH.

@SirSamuelVimes I was just going to say that about rain for funerals! I’ll be well pissed if it’s sunny for mine.

💐Reedwarbler

I had a conversation with my parents last night about Christmas, went along the lines of my 80 year old dad ringing up and asking if they could still come from tier 3 Essex with mutant virus. Me going yes of course we've taken the children out of school so no isolation over Christmas, and they are really looking forward to seeing you.
We aren't mixing with anyone and neither are they before Christmas.

Hoping plan is all going to work now!

@Reedwarbler
Hope today goes as well as can be expected.