You know the king in the kings speech ? Was he the queens dad ?

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Edward VIII's middle names incorporate the patron saints of the 4 nations, I've just noticed.

I noticed that, and wondered if they got as far as George and Andrew and then went , oh bugger, we'll have to have the other two as well, what the heck.

Prince Michael of Kent's mother, Princess Marina, was also related to the Russian royal family.
remember when PMK went to Russia for the re-interment of the late Tsar's family, after having provided dna to prove the remains really were those of Nicholas and family.

His brother had a lot to answer for. We were still in the depression, Hitler had just come into power and all he could think about was himself. Not to mention is rather unsavoury dalliance with fascism.

Not to be apologist, but at the time Fascism hadn't yet revealed it's full power.
Ww1 was barely over, a generation of young men dead or disabled, then Spanish flu killed even more again. News reports trickling about the atrocities and hardships of Communist Russia. A massive economic Depression. Hyperinflation, political street battles, polarisation and instability. A strong leader who promised salvation would have been attractive, or a necessary evil at least.
We know how it ended - but they measured hardships differently then, after all they'd been through, and didn't know how much worse it would get. I dunno, like being courted by a man who 'has his flaws' then once you've committed and are dependent with kids at your skirts his true character becomes clear.
Anyway sorry for dragging the thread down a dark path.

@CassandraCross George VI

If you watch the film it's Churchill who suggests he take the name George. WW2 was coming and he didn't want anything Germanic. George was a good English name for a King despite Hanoverian connections

If Edward VIII had been allowed to marry Wallis (and provided the monarchy survived) then the queen would not have ascended the throne until 1972 when she was in her forties. All her children would have led a relatively 'normal' early life and who knows if Charles would have been allowed to pursue his true love early on and marry her?

@kursaalflyer

If Edward VIII had been allowed to marry Wallis (and provided the monarchy survived) then the queen would not have ascended the throne until 1972 when she was in her forties. All her children would have led a relatively 'normal' early life and who knows if Charles would have been allowed to pursue his true love early on and marry her?

Assuming that Edward and Wallis had no children, George VI may not have died young and may have become after Edward

Well, I don't know him personally but yes he was the father of our present queen.

[quote Toddlerteaplease]@CassandraCross George VI[/quote]
Thanks. I got lost down one of the interesting diversions of this thread.

Isn’t the question mark over whether Charles will become King Charles to do with Bonnie Prince Charlie? Wasn’t he seen as Charles III in Scotland, just risking more letterboxes being detonated if ‘our’ Charles labels himself CIII?

Thus, not just.

Bonnie Prince Charlie was considered Charles III by some people in Scotland, not all of Scotland and certainly not by the Presbyterians.

Prince Philip provided the DNA to prove the identity of the Czarina Alexandra and her children. She was his great aunt, the sister of his grandmother.

from Wikipedia, re Prince Michael of Kent,

Tsar Nicholas II was a first cousin of three of his grandparents: George V, Prince Nicholas of Greece and Denmark, and Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna of Russia. When the bodies of the Tsar and some of his family were recovered in 1991, the remains were later identified by DNA using, among others, a sample from Prince Michael for recognition.[32] He attended the 1998 burial of the Tsar and his family in St Petersburg