ADs take the National Express when their lives' in a mess, it will make them smile

[BogRollBOGOF]

🎤On the National Express
There’s a jolly hostess
Giving porridge free
She’ll provide you with shots
amaretto or what
You like to seeeeee...

Going out was in style
Now we’re stuck in this aisle
Dream of being free
And it’s hard to get by
When your arse is the size
Of the furlough feeeeeee🎤

Bah ba ba la
Bah ba ba la

Tomorrow belongs to meee...

Welcome to the 17:38 to freedom, stopping at virtual hugs, critical discourse, and random tangents along the way. ETA unknown...

To be fair, he is wearing a hair net. (You can't be too careful)

@TheOrchidKiller

To be fair, he is wearing a hair net. (You can't be too careful)

But he's not wearing a mask!

[quote TheOrchidKiller]@Ancissima
I agree with your comments about, "protect me from my fear." I have a highly anxious friend who was terrified of people on the bus who weren't wearing masks. And then she said to me, "but it's my problem that I'm upset by it, I have to deal with it."
I have a lot of sympathy with people being anxious (been there myself), but it's when everyone else is labelled as "selfish" - that gets annoying. Another person's perceived selfishness is often more complex than it appears.[/quote]
I respect people that own up to their feelings about that

I know my feelings are strong the opposite way round in that department. It would be unreasonable of me to demand that everybody removes their masks so that I can lip read and not just feel generally freaked out (having lived for 39 years inna society where a half covered face is generally not a good situation). I manage my behaviour. I'm too stubborn to be a recluse and avoid which would do me no good anyway. So I go to placès like the supermarket when its very quiet. I avoid additional places where they are required for long periods like entertainment venues. I look down away from faces at school (and explain that I'm having difficulties about it) But it's my responsibility to manage it as best as I can with mininmal disruption to others. (Until I do some theraputic venting on MN )

Percy next to the bacon slicer made me laugh, I’m a vegetarian.
The local secondary school has staggered start and finish times, shame the bus times haven’t changed. They seem to think everyone either has a car or walks.
I can’t wait to sit in a cafe and have a cappuccino and meet my friend. I bought a Nespresso machine during lockdown because I was missing cappuccino. I already have a electric milk frothier.
I have to print at work, I’m still alive( touch wood).
It’s bloody raining again.

The Percy photo was taken a while ago, possibly before it was mandated that shop workers should wear masks.

Or Percy may have a very good reason for not wearing one.

He's a pig. A mask would definitely interfere with his ability to sniff out truffles.

@BogRollBOGOF

There's been a great DM article about how Covid Survivors could develop life threatening hair dye allergies.

In other news anyone, Covid or not could develop life threatening hair dye allergies, hence always having the advice to patch test in advance as there is always a small potential for a reaction to occur.

This reminds me of the T&T list of likely places to have caught COVID. Apparently 11% had been to the supermarket in the preceding week, so this is touted as a place where the risk is high. Well, forgive me, I’m really unsciency, but surely it’s a given that many people will have done that? More than half probably had showers, but I don’t see anyone suggesting it’s coming out in the water. (Maybe not the best thing to suggest on the Corona threads...)

@NastyBlouse my MIL and her sister were called Connie and Margaret and I can just imagine them having that conversation!!

I was thinking about long Covid the other day. I'm sure it's real - other illnesses cause long term effects so why shouldn't Covid? However, it's so eagerly reported in the media, and has such a late and vague range of possible symptoms, I do wonder if some (maybe even most) cases are psychosomatic.

Rishi Sunak is the only government politician who can be judged to have had a 'good crisis' in public perception terms.

I'm not sure about that, many of the 3m of us who have been left out of Govt support despise him, and I think it's going to get a lot worse, e.g. an increasing number of people who have been made redundant or whose employers won't furlough them this time. It's not over yet, and there are more and more people joining the Excluded UK Facebook group with new stories of financial disaster.

@110APiccadilly

I was thinking about long Covid the other day. I'm sure it's real - other illnesses cause long term effects so why shouldn't Covid? However, it's so eagerly reported in the media, and has such a late and vague range of possible symptoms, I do wonder if some (maybe even most) cases are psychosomatic.

A lot of sounds like post viral syndrome. Post pneumonia I had most of the symptoms described and some awful blood test results showing kidney issues, which resolved in about six months.

It’s grim. It’s just I don’t understand why people behave as if infectious disease never existed before.

@DrDiva
Agree.
It's correlation, not cause & effect!

Re long covid. I'm not denying it exists either. But I object to giving it a special label, when so many other illnesses & conditions also cause a range of side-effects, long or shorter-term, which are invisible to the majority of the population.

Tabby Oh I totally agree DH and I are self-employed too we've had to go for bounceback debt-- loans, and so many self-employed or freelance people couldn't even get those. The number of people who have been shut out of any support whatsoever while massive companies and government cronies get richer is a scandal.

I should have contextualised better -- he's in some ways come across as a touch more human compared to the rest of the cabinet, but when the competition is Patel, Gove and Raab that's a bar so low it is actually buried four feet underground.

And agreed -- he will oxidise significantly next year when the true financial cost starts to become publicly apparent and he starts putting taxes up.

We have at last managed to 'zoom' with fil, who is isolated in a care home. Not very successful though as they hadn't bothered to put his hearing aids in. Hopeless, isn't it?
Trying to cheer ourselves up with small pleasures. We usually go out on Saturday nights, but as that is a no go, tonight we are having hot dogs. Herta hot dogs, the proper white rolls, lots of fried onions, squirty mustard and some beer for H and wine for me. Do you know, I really don't care if it's unhealthy!

@TheOrchidKiller

Re long covid. I'm not denying it exists either. But I object to giving it a special label, when so many other illnesses & conditions also cause a range of side-effects, long or shorter-term, which are invisible to the majority of the population.

I had what I'm now fairly sure was early Covid in the back end of last year (when we were denying it would ever come to the UK - but have now admitted it was already here) and it wiped me out for a good couple of months afterwards which viruses don't normally do. I was so worn out by it that I nearly keeled over walking from the station to uni on several occasions and narrowly avoided a student paramedic desperately keen to practice his couple of weeks of lectures worth of knowledge at one point!

I just assumed I had had a shitter of a cold and flu bug doing the rounds - nothing more than that and it's only in hindsight I joined the dots (especially as I was out and about on placements and jam packed trains). Thankfully I'm intelligent enough to know I was feeling crap and let my placement know that I wasn't prepared to take the risk of bringing anything nasty into the care home I was placed at... you know back in the days when people were allowed to have common sense.

Tescos is heaving because there's nowhere bloody else to go.

Reed “ We have at last managed to 'zoom' with fil, who is isolated in a care home. Not very successful though as they hadn't bothered to put his hearing aids in. Hopeless, isn't it?”

I find this inhuman. Was there a debate in Parliament about care homes and visits?

" Apparently 11% had been to the supermarket in the preceding week, "

I'm becoming increasingly suspicious of people who claim they caught Covid in a supermarket. They have to give T&T some idea of where they've been and they're surely not going to admit to having had a coffee at Connie's whose husband had a cough.

@DominaShantotto, I find it interesting that quite a number of people think they may have had Covid at the end of last year. I heard a GP on the radio saying that there was a lot of a coronavirus OC43, which causes similar symptoms to mildish Covid, about then. Apparently his wife had it which was why he had looked into it. There's a team at a Belgian university who think it may have been the pathogen involved in the 1889-90 'Russian' 'flu epidemic. But I've heard nothing else about it.

Of course, it doesn't make much difference if that was what people had, but even if it was OC43 and not Covid, I would think you could hope to have some cross immunity.

Sorry, this isn't particularly helpful, I just find it interesting.

@Reedwarbler I'm glad you got to (remotely) see your FIL. Unfortunately hearing aids tend to get mislaid in care homes, so it may be a recurring problem.

My mother's care home offered Zoom visits but my mother doesn't understand screens any more (she has fairly advanced dementia). They have now repurposed the conservatory as a visiting room with a floor to ceiling glass divider, and a two way intercom. So it's a bit like 'in person zoom'. I visited a few weeks ago and couldn't hear my mother as she speaks quietly, and as she hadn't seen me for seven months she had no idea who I was. I know the care home have done their best, but it was a very long way from what you want from a visit.

@110APiccadilly

I was thinking about long Covid the other day. I'm sure it's real - other illnesses cause long term effects so why shouldn't Covid? However, it's so eagerly reported in the media, and has such a late and vague range of possible symptoms, I do wonder if some (maybe even most) cases are psychosomatic.

I'd go further and say that I suspect some alleged Covid cases are psychosomatic. One friend who thinks she had it in March (so pre-testing) is still dining out (not literally!) on the story of how she 'almost died'. Except she didn't almost die at all. She stayed at home and recovered in bed for a week, just as I did when I last had flu. She's always been terribly dramatic and the kind of person who loved to gossip and be at the centre of other people's drama so I think she's sort of loving it whilst also living in fear. I also know someone with health anxiety predating Covid - used to phone 999 on a monthly basis - and I recognise her symptoms in others.

@Reedwarbler
@Shellingbynight
I'm so sorry about your care home visiting experiences. There are so many like this & it's heartbreaking.

Technology has a place in our lives but the aasumption that it solves all problems, especially with human interaction, is misguided. Your description of your mum not understanding screens anymore is so accurate & a common occurrence, but not known about by the general population. It's the same with missing hearing aids.

@AcornAutumn and @Shellingbynight He is on 2 weeks isolation (finishes wednesday) as he was moved to there from hospital for assessment. We have complained to our MP (having had no joy by going up the home's chain of command) because there is not even a working phone we can call him on. He, too, was horrified at this and is looking into it as a matter of urgency. We hope on wednesday to be able to speak to fil in person somehow with whatever system they have set up. Shelling, he has advanced alzheimer's too, the zoom call wasn't really a success because he couldn't hear and everything had to be relayed to him by the person holding the phone, who he couldn't really hear either! All we could see was a look of puzzlement on his face as I don't think he could see the screen that well either. He has never used a mobile or computer. Hopefully he will be moving out of this hellhole soon into a home proper. We are not at all impressed with his care, and the government are just paying lip service to this supposed available contact with residents, because it isn't actually happening.
Yes Shelling, we are worried that my fil wil forget my H. He doesn't know who I am any more. They actually told us that he was crying a lot. Are you surprised? Human rights breaches are abounding, but that's okay eh, at least they haven't got covid.
Fuck this cunting government.

Incidentally, the phone we called my fil on was a carer's own, not the property of the home. She kindly gave us the number.

@Reedwarbler

Incidentally, the phone we called my fil on was a carer's own, not the property of the home. She kindly gave us the number.

Oh my god. I hope your MP can sort it out.

Cleverly has got some fucking brass neck. Putting out a video today begging people to get into town and spend on the local shops/takeaways that are open when he voted for this fucking lockdown. Coincidentally the town Tesco has apparently reopened the upstairs today and two days ago this local business was on the front of the Essex Chronicle.

"Lockdown is totally unfair claims owner"

www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/essex-covid-braintree-shop-owner-4664756?fbclid=IwAR3i7sHUkXMkQxTAie7-qRcM1FKA8DLDEwxqVgjdYsZtcGOvVpVD2QOu8-0

Hi there lovely ladies
I am not religious but I ask you all to say a wish or a blessing or cross fingers for the 23 yo daughter of a dear friend of mine. She is godmother to dd2. At the beginning of lockdown I posted with anger about how the cancer diagnosis of my friends daughter had been delayed to find after 3 months of being put off she had spinal cancer. We are here in November, and after months of surgeries and pain, we don't know if she will come back to us. It's a bad day today; it's hard to keep the tears back for her.