ADs take the National Express when their lives' in a mess, it will make them smile

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🎤On the National Express
There’s a jolly hostess
Giving porridge free
She’ll provide you with shots
amaretto or what
You like to seeeeee...

Going out was in style
Now we’re stuck in this aisle
Dream of being free
And it’s hard to get by
When your arse is the size
Of the furlough feeeeeee🎤

Bah ba ba la
Bah ba ba la

Tomorrow belongs to meee...

Welcome to the 17:38 to freedom, stopping at virtual hugs, critical discourse, and random tangents along the way. ETA unknown...

@dingit I have an 18 year old in a similar situation. He made an attempt to end his life a few years ago but thanks to counselling and psychiatric care has managed to turn himself around. However all his coping mechanisms have been removed, he can’t go to the gym or participate in face to face music lessons or anything that distracts him at the moment. I don’t want to go back to the dark days when I was scared to leave him alone.

I have just seen this silly patronising comment in the Times from Hancock about Christmas

Speaking on Times Radio, Mr Hancock said: “It’s about getting the balance right but still try to have that cherished Christmas with your family as much as possible. What we want to have is a set of rules that is, if at all possible, consistent across the four nations of the UK.”

Asked by the BBC why people could not choose for themselves how much risk there were willing to take by seeing relatives, Mr Hancock said: “The problem is that you can harm others, even though you don’t know you’re doing it because this disease passes on asymptomatically. However, Christmas is a special time of year and we’ve had such a difficult year, and having some hope, some joy, at Christmas will be welcomed by so many people.”

Why not just answer the question? Oh they annoy me.

He is a weasel. Except that's not really fair on weasels.

Isn't the "asymptomatic spreader" theory being debunked? It's more like "pre-symptomatic", like most respiratory illnesses.
There's no such thing as a super-spreader either, is there? That was a theory that should have never seen the light of day outside scientific journals.

I saw the "celebrate in December, bury Granny in January" thing earlier and had to sit on my hands so I couldn't reply that both of my grandmothers died years ago and presumably that meant I could do what I wanted.

Weasels are quite sweet, Matt Hancock is just a slimy little cunt.

Weasels are also intelligent.

@TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain

Isn't the "asymptomatic spreader" theory being debunked? It's more like "pre-symptomatic", like most respiratory illnesses. There's no such thing as a super-spreader either, is there? That was a theory that should have never seen the light of day outside scientific journals.

I saw the "celebrate in December, bury Granny in January" thing earlier and had to sit on my hands so I couldn't reply that both of my grandmothers died years ago and presumably that meant I could do what I wanted.

No, they’ll just accuse of you killing someone else’s granny because you dared to breathe.

@TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain

Isn't the "asymptomatic spreader" theory being debunked? It's more like "pre-symptomatic", like most respiratory illnesses. There's no such thing as a super-spreader either, is there? That was a theory that should have never seen the light of day outside scientific journals.

I saw the "celebrate in December, bury Granny in January" thing earlier and had to sit on my hands so I couldn't reply that both of my grandmothers died years ago and presumably that meant I could do what I wanted.

@TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain

Earlier this year when discussions were had about restrictions being relaxed I got into a conversation with someone who pointed out that I talk about my family as my DH, DS, my brothers and their families. Do I not worry about passing it to my parents who could be vulnerable or do I just not visit them?

So I pointed out that I have difficulty visiting them as they have both been dead for years (4 and 17 respectively) and that if they could pull off dying twice we'd be raking it in on the chat show circuit.

I just think it highlights how people cannot see that others have different family set ups and their life experiences to them. People (especially on here) are so blinkered.

[quote Wishfulthinking1977]@AcornAutumn it's not great!! But here you go!! 🤣🤣
It was Xmas eve babe
Under lockdown
My kids they said to me this won't be the last one
And then I heard a phrase
A three word slogan
I hit the bottle
And dreamed about normaility

If your a lucky one
Got furloughed from at least day one
I've got a feeling
You won't be on your arse
So happy Christmas
We've been abandoned
I hope there's a better time
When all our bills get paid

They've got tests that don't work
They've got more kids starving
When test and trace contacts you
With no reasoning
You can't touch your relatives
Can't even go near them
Loneliness don't matter
We're following guidelines

Valence is mad
Boris's been had
Doom mongers of shifty
When they finished talking you needed a drink
Whitty was swaying
Sage they are playing
To keep folks and home
Whilst they waffled some more

The guys and girls all dressed in blue
Who wouldn't answer a crime
Are closing people businesses
And handing out big fines

These graphs are all junk
Jvt is a punk
Relying on Ferguson the uk is a mess
Hancocks is smirking as millions stop working
Happy Xmas you arseholes is definitely your last!

The guys and girls all dressed in blue
Who wouldn't answer a crime
Are closing people businesses
And handing out big fines

We could have handled this
As could have anyone
You took our jobs away
When you could have saved them
We had to save the nhs
You have destroyed it
And taken all our lives with you

The guys and girls all dressed in blue
Who wouldn't answer a crime
Are closing people businesses
And handing out big fines[/quote]
👏👏👏👏👏👏😄

[quote Iheartmysmart]@dingit I have an 18 year old in a similar situation. He made an attempt to end his life a few years ago but thanks to counselling and psychiatric care has managed to turn himself around. However all his coping mechanisms have been removed, he can’t go to the gym or participate in face to face music lessons or anything that distracts him at the moment. I don’t want to go back to the dark days when I was scared to leave him alone.[/quote]
I'm really sorry about your ds. It's a helpless feeling isn't it, as all the usual go tos are impossible.

Isn't the "asymptomatic spreader" theory being debunked? It's more like "pre-symptomatic", like most respiratory illnesses.

Not sure - looks like in September there was reserach suggesting asymptomatic spreaders did exits and they were a source of infection to others - though first article also suggests hidden symptoms people not realising they had sympoms of covid - so I think both asymptomatic or presymptomatic people are still considered possible causes of spread.

www.healthline.com/health-news/20-percent-of-people-with-covid-19-are-asymptomatic-but-can-spread-the-disease#Only-20%-remained-asymptomatic

Tracing asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers among 3674 hospital staff:a cross-sectional survey

The are some people like my MIL who despite repeated exposure to contagous illness and no vaccinations just don't get sick with diseases like people around them - she had none of the usual childhood illnesses and is rarely ill.

We're not visiting as FIl has heart condition and is 70 and either them or us would have to travel length of country by train. I'd assumed prior to that SNP MP traveling once she knew she had covid by train that most people were sensible.

Livin “ So I pointed out that I have difficulty visiting them as they have both been dead for years (4 and 17 respectively) and that if they could pull off dying twice we'd be raking it in on the chat show circuit”

My late father is ROARING with laughter at this, I promise! 😂

Surely schools reflect the communities that they serve. They are obviously not magically immune to viral spread, particularly as the places of greatest densities of people permissible since March.
But just because a case is reported to a school and affects its function, it doesn't mean that it was automatically spread in the school

"I'm sure there was some reasearch that did find that - though
Wales is considering mass testing in Wales schools and colleges which I'm not sure about."

I don't have school-age DC, so I don't think I have a bias on this, but I'm hearing from parents and teachers around here that while the local schools, primary and secondary, have had individual cases from time to time, of Covid since September, none have closed or closed classes. There doesn't seem to be much spread, if any, within our schools, but it's brought in occasionally from the community. This is in line with the incidence in the community, which is moderate/low but, apart from spread within households, mostly isolated incidents.

I think they are too and it's causing no end of arguments between me and my husband. He thinks I'm totally insane and is probably ready to have me sectioned. Drives me insane because his life hasn't changed one bit whereas mine has been turned entirely upside down.

Exactly. Mine gets it a bit, but he’s not the one dealing with ds’s self-harming, or trying to stand in as the playmate, or trying to keep all the systems going. And the thing about 5 days off at Christmas is that DS isn’t close enough to another bit of the family to feature in any “rule of 6” calculations, so he will still miss out. The only way he is going to get social interaction is through a relaxation at other times.
And it really pisses me off when I get told that he is socially inexperienced. Well, no shit Sherlock!! Pretty much his entire unstructured time is spent with me.

In slightly better news, I got a day at home in my own today and feel calmer for it! Life my DH and DS but need that space.

why the assumption that numbers will rocket out of control? Most people there work on the assumption that everyone will be having massive raves and visiting thousands. Whereas in reality each family will probably visit another set of family or two. There are also people who have decided the risk is too high for them and won't visit. So its not going to be some apocalyptic free for all

Probably judging people by their own previous standards @LivinLaVidaLoki I pointed that out on the thread to At 47 ive actually never been drunk. When posting that on here in the past i got stunned disbelief.

The support bubbles thing is completely nonsensical. If you live with someone else you cant have a support bubble? Will Covid target me when it knows i made some vows in a registry office back in 1998.
Maybe it uses wedding rings as targets. Like a bullseye.

Lone youngsters in care. Bet that hasnt even crossed the Three Bellends minds.

And international students - many staying here alone because of quarantine, and too scared of breaking the law to get together

I’ve had it with lockdown, my DD as she cried because she really wants to hug her GD’s. I did hug her but it’s not enough.Under normal circumstances she sees them by choice almost every day and hugs them. She is a teenager and we live within walking distance. She wants to know if we pay for a test, say after she breaks up for Christmas can she hug. If it was up to me, I say yes. I feel so sorry for her, she normally has robust mental health.

Heard on the radio news that Cressida Dick has no intention of instructing police officers to break up Christmas dinners unless it's something particularly egregious. So sounds like any rules/roolz will be almost entirely pointless in London at least... (caveat, have done no personal research into this statement beyond hearing the brief snippet earlier!)

She may have realised it would lead to a complete break in community relations............permenantly

DH now doesnt want his flu jab. He has completely lost trust.

DH now doesnt want his flu jab. He has completely lost trust.

It is likely to be a low year for flu - social distancing and extra hygiene measures work againt flu and the southern hemispher flu season was mild.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/17/falling-flu-rates-in-southern-hemisphere-offers-hope-as-winter-approaches-coronavirus

Though there's some evidence having the vaccine helps prime the immune system to fight covid.

www.irishnews.com/lifestyle/2020/10/15/news/coronavirus-and-vaccination-why-a-flu-jab-could-also-protect-you-against-covid-2096887/

Could it be the possible extra faff involved that putting him off?

Partly. Having to prat around at the surgery doesnt help.