Would you attend a peaceful protest if a convicted paedophile moved into your street?

[thefourgp]

I’ve never attended anything similar before and I’m in two minds about going. He was convicted (I’ve read the newspaper articles which show his photo) and has been released after serving half his sentence. I don’t know if he owns the property but he’s moved in with his wife who stood by him. There’s a peaceful protest being arranged. Would you go?

I wouldn't attend.

I would prefer I knew where he were living but that it wasn't near me. I wouldn't want him to move away if it meant not knowing where he was going.

I am more concerned about the pedophiles I don't know who are living near me. The ones unconvinced who continue to commit abuse.

Peaceful protests are rarely every that, and I would not want to be part of anything not peaceful.

Lilac - staff member arrested for rape of a minor and having images. Because of where he worked to ensure no images were on the school computers and to ensure he hadn’t been committing crimes, work place computers also removed.
For months forensics had the devices. Thankfully they were clean and given back a few months later.

Anyone who thinks that prisoners who beat up child sex offenders do it out of some kind of moral judgement is naive. They do it for notoriety. Beat up a “paedo” and you’ll earn the respect of your fellow prisoners.

I do have to agree with this. Prison for Paedos have been painted in a very different light, you read it quite a lot on articles "the prisoners will get to him" chances are they wont, or wont want to risk adding time on to their sentence, or give a shit.

We can't go castrating anyone.

Think about the repercussions.

That would mean that a law would have to pass for the state to take control of the bodies of prisoners (maybe even people who have been convicted but have no prison time).

Have a think about what that means.

The people on this thread who want violence, murder, don't care if innocent people get hurt and now want state sanctioned operations or medical treatment clearly don't have a clue about the real world and just want to beat someone up, make up a few chants then congratulate themselves on a good days work.

Castration doesn’t just breech human rights, it puts children in for more danger, david

Do stop acting like a fool, unless you are a fool.

@iamtheoneandonlyyy

Be more worried about the ones you don't know.

This. Forewarned is forearmed.

How does castration put children in more danger?

If a criminal wants to be rehabilitated they will do anything to stay outside.

The legal process could be used as it currently is when a medical intervention case goes to court.

Castration doesn't work because CSA is often about power rather than sex.

It puts children in more danger because abuse primarily happens within families. One thing to report Uncle knowing he will be away at her majesty’s pleasure, another thing entirely to report uncle knowing castration will follow.

A jury will be far less likely to convict on this basis too.

And murder will be more likely.

Why are we even discussing castration as a serious option

Or how about doing it in some similar way of sectioning against the patients wishes

Because when people come out with bollocks that it’s against their human rights, it has to pointed out this is incorrect and there are legal ways in place

And how do you know the mindset of every single juror member?

Castration would not put me off finding them guilty so that’s already 11-1.

@howaboutholly

Why are we even discussing castration as a serious option

It's as if the chemical castration that already occurs, was brought into prisons in 2007, doesn't exist - with 10% of inmates attending going on to reoffend ... or was that 40%

I suspect people don't know how this is done and imagine a one off simple pill taking and they're done!

As for physical castration... like forced chemical castration, it opens u a whole new can of worms that women need to be very, very wary of!

I can't believe all of the bleeding hearts on here wringing their hands for a rapist "well he has to live somewhere", yes in a prison where he can't offend.

This is a fair enough opinion to have about what should be done. But the thread is about what is actually done, and what you’d do if a convicted child rapist ended up living in your street. If that happens, you can say all you like “well he should be locked up forever” but he isn’t. Therefore he does have to live somewhere. The people pointing that out are just stating the facts, not sympathising. Unless you’re advocating killing him, he does have to physically be somewhere.

How does castration put children in more danger?

Because it does not remove the desire. And it does not remove the mental gratification. It just prevents erection. So they can still abuse children - child on child abuse, child sexual images, touching etc.

It also increases the risk as people assume castration reduces the risk and become less vigilant.

A very nasty crime, but I don't really see what a protest would achieve. If paedophiles get released, they have to live somewhere. For people saying he should move away from children, where exactly is this place? Is there somewhere I am unaware of, where there are no children?

it opens u a whole new can of worms that women need to be very, very wary of!

This would be the one reason I would be against it. Even though I hate paedophiles, I dont think it is right to do a medical procedure on someone for "the greater good" women especially would be vulnerable to this kind of thinking.

I am aware of the process and yes it’s painful. And?
That’s still an albeit small number who don’t reoffend.

And what about the repeat offender on parole? Slap on the wrist, sent back inside at most to see out the rest of their sentence. In the meantime more victims for them to fantasize over.

And as for the family not reporting the uncle as a result. This says a whole lot about the family that they would stay silent knowing what’s going on. They should also be charged

The people jumping up and down saying prison for life/death row/castration etc etc etc are completely forgetting the point that in the UK once they have served their sentence or part of it they are released into the community and are to an extent monitored. Of course what the have done and may again do if given the opportunity is abhorrent but practically these suggestions are not going to happen and people can huff and puff and say they would string them up etc but not they wouldn't it's all spleen venting

It makes the job of probation and the police a lot easier if they are in houses where monitored rather than driven by pitchfork under ground and so no one knows what is going on.

Leave it @thefourgp what good will it do?

God this is so fucking depressing, they really are the dregs of society aren't they?

Well I don't know then. Can't put 'em in prison, castration makes them even worse. I imagine they just love talking therapy. Eugh I don't know then. Let them live next door and don't let the kids have sleep overs or play in the back garden.

I can't believe all of the bleeding hearts on here wringing their hands for a rapist "well he has to live somewhere", yes in a prison where he can't offend.

Practically though what do you suggest? Forget the stupid string them up suggestions which obviously you aren't going to do. Perhaps instead of wasting time venting and screeching which makes no difference lobby MP's and parliament for longer sentences. Shouting and making stupid suggestions on MN doesn't change the reality of it all at all.

Females do have court ordered medical invention such as hysterectomy.
Families/health professionals working with those with learning difficulties get court orders if there’s a conflict to get that hysterectomy.

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult

Castration doesn't work because CSA is often about power rather than sex.

Indeed. It shows how little some know about what CSA is all about. They don't need a penis/erection to abuse!

And how do you know the mindset of every single juror member? you don’t, but there is plenty of evidence that in states where the death penalty exists juries are less likely to reach a guilty verdict.