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Would you attend a peaceful protest if a convicted paedophile moved into your street?

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thefourgp · 11/11/2020 21:04

I’ve never attended anything similar before and I’m in two minds about going. He was convicted (I’ve read the newspaper articles which show his photo) and has been released after serving half his sentence. I don’t know if he owns the property but he’s moved in with his wife who stood by him. There’s a peaceful protest being arranged. Would you go?

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Nicknacky · 14/11/2020 17:24

PhesantPlucker1 It was you that used the word “collossol” leading me to think you meant it was a large enquiry.

I’m not psychic.

PheasantPlucker1 · 14/11/2020 17:26

Lilal youre completely right, but its not just convictions but also what happens after sentence and release.

Im not endorsing locking them up for life, nor do I have the answers, but something needs to change.

PheasantPlucker1 · 14/11/2020 17:28

Nicknacky a pp called it a colossal failure, I agreed it was colossal.

Im going to rise above the comprehsion digs Grin (but only as I make similar mistakes on a daily basis!)

Nicknacky · 14/11/2020 17:33

PheasantPlucker1 Oh feel free to have a dig. I did struggle to not comment on your earlier bad grammar😂

PheasantPlucker1 · 14/11/2020 17:44

Im the first to admit my grammar and spelling are terrible, thats why I never comment on anyone elses Grin

MoonJelly · 15/11/2020 00:05

@Puzzledandpissedoff

If you want to campaign about something campaign for more police and probation in sex offender monitoring and greater post conviction powers for more effective supervision

Spot on in principle - though actually my own preference is campaigning for more whole life sentences

Incidentally, among the cries of "not going to happen" I've not yet heard any rational arguments for why this couldn't be done if the will was there ...

  1. Because the will isn't there.
  2. Because if we have whole life sentences for paedophiles we should rationally have them available for a number of other offences, e.g. rape and severe physical assaults, and we would have to spend a fortune building and staffing new prisons.
  3. Because prisoners on whole life sentences are extremely difficult to guard as they have literally nothing to lose: no matter what they do, no greater sentence can be imposed.
20mum · 17/11/2020 17:37

Try the hormone re-balancing. What is there to lose? I want my tax to pay for social care, not housing offenders. All I want for them is best practice copied from wherever it works best to stop re-offending.

One unused resource is the empty hotels. As far as I am aware, most of the proven, repeat proven, rehabilitation programmes involve a small group, away from outside influence, usually in nature and forming a wholesome community they feel part of. Chemical intervention is not excluded, but changing a lifelong mindset won't be done without a clear path to a different way of looking at things. It is worth remembering that there is a high proportion of people who should never have been in prison in the first place (especially women, but men too). They are often unwanted from birth, rejected, neglected, not accepted, not helped, alone in the world, unloved, and offended against by most of the adults who get power over them. Literacy rate in prisons is far below national average. Mental health and substance abuse problems are not 'cured' by being beaten, punished or caged with assailants and exploiters.

No, I'm not saying people should 'get away' with either minor offences or major ones. But we have advanced from thrashing children to cure them of bed-wetting, and drowning or burning unpopular old women to cure them of being witches. Caging people to cure them of offending dates from the same times, same assumptions. If we adamantly refuse to consider new ways, we could bring back public hanging for pickpockets, which used to attract crowds, which in turn attracted pickpockets.

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