Would you attend a peaceful protest if a convicted paedophile moved into your street?

[thefourgp]

I’ve never attended anything similar before and I’m in two minds about going. He was convicted (I’ve read the newspaper articles which show his photo) and has been released after serving half his sentence. I don’t know if he owns the property but he’s moved in with his wife who stood by him. There’s a peaceful protest being arranged. Would you go?

That’s what do already reborn, have been for decades. Lobbying for stricter sentencing for sex crimes.

The death penalty and castration are two different things though. You can agree with one and oppose the other.
FWIW I don’t believe in the death penalty because I don’t believe in deliberate murder.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on electric shock therapy?

As for the family not reporting the uncle. This says a whole lot about the family

The victim is the family member who would rather stay silent than report and risk being murdered as a result of knowing the the offender would be enraged. It would deter victims from coming forward.

Court orderd hysterectomies... like the women who was a ward of her parents/hospital trust whose periods terrified her, and she bviously had PMDD too!?

The woman with the prolapsed uterus who was freaked out by it but was not of sound mind to make any decision, whose NHS Trust asked for the case to be held in open court for transparency!

The woman without mental capacity to make health decisions about a tumorous mass in her uterus?

Women without the mental capacity to make the health decisons they would have if they had been of sound mind. Women whose families, NHS Trusts etc, care about them enough to fight for life changing / saving surgery for them?

You want to compare those interventions with the forced castration of paedophiles?

OK!

This is local to me, I too am in two minds about attending. I understand the risk with forcing someone out to live somewhere they are unknown but the reality is my children can no longer play in a paddling pool etc as we are in view of a convicted paedophile. It is very hard to have a 'better to know where he is' mentality when this is literally on your doorstep.

God this is so fucking depressing, they really are the dregs of society aren't they?

I think this is why you get extreme different opinions on what the best suggestion is. Realistically they cant stay in prison forever (I will guess and say if this was a realistic option most would agree)

Discussions like these are good IMO and should be encouraged, not shut down. Il admit to never really thinking of where the paedophile would go after I answered yes to protesting, hoping it would drive him out. The reasonable posters made me think, actually they would only move to a different street, with different children. Its everyones problem unfortunately.

No I was comparing them because of the moans of human rights as I said in my post.

Dismantle it's on most people's doorsteps, you just know about it.
I think it's so incredibly selfish and uncaring to put other children at risk (because their parents in the new area won't know any different) just so you have the satisfaction of knowing 'not on my street.

Medication to stop them being sexually aroused full stop?
A combination of every single medical invention until something is found that works, just like with other illnesses. We try various meds until we find something that works for us as individuals because we want to get better.

It's worth remembering that risk to children directly is very low. Most abuse does sadly happen within the family unit. The man the OP is about probably abused either his child or close family member. Someone he had direct access to :(

@canigooutyet

Females do have court ordered medical invention such as hysterectomy. Families/health professionals working with those with learning difficulties get court orders if there’s a conflict to get that hysterectomy.

Apologies, there was no mention of human rights in that post... and I wasn't tracking all of your posts as being by one poster...

Oh they are everywhere. A quick google of your area shows how many registered paedophiles are in your area.
The true figures will be much higher due to none reporting in case it pisses the offender off, homelessness and those who’ve gone underground.

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

They have to live somewhere.

How about in prison.!.
Would you like one living on the same street as your child.

Yes I would protest.

They have to leave prison at some point.

@LilacPebbles

As for the family not reporting the uncle. This says a whole lot about the family

The victim is the family member who would rather stay silent than report and risk being murdered as a result of knowing the the offender would be enraged. It would deter victims from coming forward.

Every victim becomes a potential murder victim in this case. We should be doing more to protect victims and know they are supported from the moment they report.

Sorry I did read it as complacency from other family members which does happen. Things like I won’t report but won’t take my kids there.

@SirChing

Vigilante groups are the biggest pain in the arse ever, when trying to keep children safe from paedos.

I used to have to house them too, and we took great pains to make sure they were far away from schools, shops, playgrounds, and anywhere where kids would gather.

The police knew EXACTLY where they were and monitored them all the time, along with other agencies.

Then some pillocks would find out and start hounding the peado. Who would then promptly do a moonlight flit and be lost to the police and other agencies keeping watch over them.

Just because you may not know exactly what goes into preventing these monsters reoffending, don't presume that nothing is being done and take matters into your own hands. YOU WILL MAKE IT WORSE!

This.

Cani
Yes, we should.
But also if an offender knows that instead of a slap on the wrist, if that, under the current system, is coming his way, but castration, then he will be more likely to kill his victim before they get a chance to speak up.

@MrsJunglelow

I know they have to live somewhere Not in my book.

In practice they do have to live somewhere. You can't alter that fact.

As a society we do more work on no means no and it’s not up for debate. Saying no without explanation shouldn’t be seen as rude or whatever often gets trotted out.

Obviously I know the word no is more complexes than that, but that should be the starting point. No is no. They can put their non violent or coercive opinion across, but if it’s still no then that’s it.

To talk with our children more about inappropriate touch and boundaries. And to not keep secrets regardless of what threats are made to keep quiet.

No one really wants to live near then, but alas we do and always have. Just more are reported which is good and we need to carry on reporting them regardless of who they are.

The 'no means no' message is a great message to put across but not really in the context of child abuse. Children can hardly be responsible for their own abuse (not that anyone is!), they are not the ones in any position of power of a trusted adult.

Lilac - Oh I never considered that aspect and that makes sense. Kind of obvious now it’s been pointed out.
Although that adds in additional complexities for criminal psychologists, as we know paedophiles before they are caught often have more than one victim

Sorry I wasn’t trying to imply it’s the victims fault. I hate the - she asked for it because of how she dressed etc abusers trot out.
There is no excuse and screams there is no remorse at all. Instead they are trying to portray themselves as victims.

Through open dialogue, getting the various messages across hopefully this would empower more victims to come forward a lot sooner than many do.

[quote NotTheToothFairy22]@BananaPop2020 are you joking? Why would I need to say/do anything? Because the sick bastard thinks he's gonna live peacefully in an area with kids? Absolutely not. Luckily I live in an area where they'd not be allowed to live in peace once people knew what he'd done.

Mind blown at the responses in here.

People who say/do nothing about people like him actually blow my mind.[/quote]

Wherever you live around 1-5% of men will have some form of sexual attraction to children.

Even if you're in a small village of 4,000 that's 40-200 men.

1% being genuine paedophiles (exclusively attracted to children pre-puberty). The rest being hebephiles (attracted to teenagers) and men who are attracted to adult women but will sexually abuse children if they get the opportunity.

So, yeah. You have them living near you whether you like it or not.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on electric shock therapy?

Do you mean Electroconvulsive therapy? For pedophiles? No evidence it does anything.

ECT generally, I feel has it's place, some people with mental illness swear by it, I certainly don't advocate it for all, or for those who can't consent.

For me, if rehabilitation worked with paedophiles then surely we could be all be “rehabilitated” to change our sexual preferences. We already know through barbaric practices this cannot be done.

For most it’s the sexual attraction that is the main motivation of their crimes.

Not all are themselves victims of sexual abuse or any other abuse that could have contributed, so there’s no underlying trauma to treat.