AIBU for not letting my lodger go on the council tax bill?

[Georgeoftheinternet]

She’s under the assumption it will give her magical powers with regards to residency and it’s a better utility bill. I’ve already put her on the water and electric (2 by mistake) and she keeps on asking me to put her on the council tax.

She’s got an eu passport but from South America. Wants residency.

I’ve told her to get on the electoral roll as it’s good for credit checks/finding your last address etc.

I’ve given her a utility bill (was easy to add at 7pm on a Friday night and bill the next day).

She’s under the assumption that it’s going to help her open a bank account and the banks have already told her the water utility bill is fine.

I’ve lived overseas for many years and came back - so I’ve gone through this process.

She’s read that if you are in council tax arrears it can affect your permanent resident status - she’s read this as “if you don’t pay council tax” which she does, as part of her rent.

I’ve told her to get a driving licence as it’s good ID and address.

I just don’t want to feel pressurised into doing stuff because she disbelieves everything I say.

@SBTLove

I’d remove her from the bills asap, soon as that’s done, hand her notice and look for a new lodger and have a firm list of rules. She’s taking the piss and has pushed way over your boundaries. p.s you were unreasonable about the door knocking, a quick I’ll be there in a mini ure would be ok, none of this cbf to speak & get a lock on your door.

No I was resting and she can’t Expect me to open the door whenever she wants. I work from home and she’s come knocking on my door to talk about nothing relevant. Had she called out my name I would have answered:

[quote Georgeoftheinternet]@RaspberryCoulis nope they can’t. They can have lodgers, they can’t have tenants[/quote]
This isn’t true and I don’t know where you’ve got it from. Of course landlords can have tenants with an agreement if they live in the house, a friend of mine does just that

@namechangeforfriday you are confusing a tenant with lodger

That’s not right - depending on the access the tenant/lodger has there may be a more formal arrangement. It’s not the same as an assured tenancy where the landlord does not live in the property but it’s not correct to say anyone who shares with a landlord is always just a lodger

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

Oh it's YOU.

I remember your other thread

Thus one...

walked in my room when I didn’t answer the door and was resting. It was late morning and I was in bed. She knocked and I didn’t answer because cbf and she often knocks on my door for no good reason (I work from home). She then opened the door apparently looking for the WiFi password

It's obvious you two DO NOT get on. Just give her notice & find someone else.

But you might be better getting the extra money you need in another way, you really don't seem suited to having lodgers.

Oh god I remember this one too!

@Georgeoftheinternet you were told then as you’re being told now, she’s not a good tenant for you or for a anyone else! You need to get rid of her now.

“It’s not working out, I don’t want a lodger arrangement like this, you need to leave ASAP”

@Georgeoftheinternet

What part of "there is a difference between a sub tenant and a lodger" do you not understand? You've already been told you're wrong about this more than once.

Get her off all bills and out your home immediately, it’s a well known scam that many South Africans perpetuate.

@BoggledBudgie

Get her off all bills and out your home immediately, it’s a well known scam that many South Africans perpetuate.

What scam

she obviously pisses you off, you don't like her living there so justgive her notice and ask her to leave and you and your sister can find someone else to move in, what's the issue? surely that's the easiest thing to do.

@FlitterMouse

she obviously pisses you off, you don't like her living there so justgive her notice and ask her to leave and you and your sister can find someone else to move in, what's the issue? surely that's the easiest thing to do.

There is no sister!

@BenchHench my sister was living with me as it’s close to the uni and I was working full time. Uni finished/lockdown so she went home.

@FlitterMouse

she obviously pisses you off, you don't like her living there so justgive her notice and ask her to leave and you and your sister can find someone else to move in, what's the issue? surely that's the easiest thing to do.

Hate having to do that. I don’t know how to approach it.

@MzHz pretty sure at the time I was being told I was in the wrong

[quote Georgeoftheinternet]@BenchHench my sister was living with me as it’s close to the uni and I was working full time. Uni finished/lockdown so she went home.[/quote]
And there it is. So there is just the two of you in the house. But the council think you are eligible for the single person's discount. Hence not wanting to put lodger on the council tax.

@BenchHench her name is in the electoral roll so it’s clear she’s living with me. So why would I do and have a risk of the council finding out?
I’ve never got the discount for council tax.
If you don’t believe me, so be.

^plus it’s clear that there is more than one issue happening with her

@Georgeoftheinternet

Hmmmm I just thought, what’s to stop her from saying she’s my partner and getting half of my house?

Absolutely nothing right now because you're sharing finances. Same way, if you lost your job and needed to claim Universal Credit, they'll be looking at a joint claim because it looks as though you're in a relationship. And if she loses her job, no benefits = you're stuck with somebody paying no rent and expecting to be fed, as she'll say 'I have nowhere to go and no money'.

She even sounds as though she thinks you're in a relationship.

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

Oh it's YOU

Exactly my reaction too 😂

OP's posts make so little sense & she seems unable to take any of the really useful advice she's received from many others.

@Georgeoftheinternet
My point is all you had to do was call out ‘hang on’, you really don’t sound suited to sharing your home.
You can’t even be arsed to reply to her but you’re putting her on your bills, it’s nuts.

[quote SBTLove]@Georgeoftheinternet
My point is all you had to do was call out ‘hang on’, you really don’t sound suited to sharing your home.
You can’t even be arsed to reply to her but you’re putting her on your bills, it’s nuts.[/quote]
Yes I was in bed naked and resting. Eg half asleep, wanting rest and recovery. She opened the door. Had she called out my name I would have asked her what she wanted, but instead she knocked and came in.

@MitziK I’m sure it’s not as easy as that, but I’ll get her of the bill regardless.

i guess english is not her first language, and you mentioned a difficulty you have in communicating.
the previous thread about her not appreciating the new sink, frankly i gave up reading. if people suggested you were being unreasonable maybe it sounded as if you expected her to shew appreciation of the new sink, because it was new, you'd paid for it and she got to use it. which is all irrelevant.
the whole thing sounded cock-eyed and overly personal.
you don't seem able to establish correct landlord/lodger roles.
that is why everyone is telling you to just tell her to quit. but you don't seem to want to. so people give up. stalemate.

There is no reason to put her into any bills unless you are a couple.

she obviously pisses you off, you don't like her living there so justgive her notice and ask her to leave and you and your sister can find someone else to move in, what's the issue? surely that's the easiest thing to do.

Hate having to do that. I don’t know how to approach it.

So what do you expect to get out of this thread? Either you find a way to terminate the lodging agreement, which is something that people in your position manage to do every day simply by giving formal notice by letter, or you carry on putting up with all the stuff you resent including being pestered about the council tax nonsense.

It’s like talking to a brick wall!!
You heard the knocking but would only have spoke if she called out?? fuck me you’re an awkward person.
I’m starting to pity the lodger!!