ADs head off to The Three Bellends and discuss luxury duvets and stationery

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(Socially distanced of course and in strictest obedience of all localised lockdowns and 3 or 5 tiers and whatever illogic the powers that be can dream up next)

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I’m not sure having a chat is treated as providing care. Honestly sometimes they won’t even answer the phone. Phone calls are so hard work and he ends the call after 5 minutes. And my DM is going deaf and won’t wear a hearing aid, because only old people need them and she is too vain.

@smallandimperfectlyformed, thank you again.

@MissEWeatherwax you're welcome. Please don't beat yourself up about trying to do your best within some really difficult circumstances xxx

I think that having a chat is care. How else do you find out how they're managing? Emergent purely can be terrible for putting on a brave face and hiding the reality. A friend discovered their parent's oven had stopped working when they made an 'illegal' visit for a chat. I think that checking up on elderly people and also enabling them to get out of the house so that they keep up their mobility is all care.

Anyway, from the tier 3 legislation here in case it helps.

Should say elderly people are terrible for....

I’m not sure having a chat is treated as providing care.

I think it is if you're checking up on someone, or trying to keep their spirits up (aka concerned about their well-being). Especially if they're an older couple without tech.

Needs must and all that.

JaimieLee, you put it much better than me.

@BillywilliamV

Been a AD since the beginning but DH tested positive 10 days ago and he is really very ill and I am rather frightened for him! Thought it could just be shaken off..

Wishing your DH a speedy recovery.

Our elderly neighbour 94 could not use the internet, his nearest offspring was 70 miles away so he would not bother him with anything. He would ask OH to sort out his heating he kept getting confused with the thermostat remote control and his house would get hotter and hotter then cut out. OH would fix that and anything else that needed fixing/replacing. We hate bothering our kids and in the cul de sac we have a good support network for each other.

I’m going to visit my old dad just to see him as providing care- he’s a bloody nightmare but o. Any just abandon him. He lives alone. He’s told me he’s not worrried about Covid at all

There's a school prefect with antlers who seems to be relishing the chance to tell everyone to be nice and compliant so they don't kill grandma.

Something weird happening here. Have blokes in hi vis jackets outside with torches and traffic cones, looking at the ground by the flats opposite and some sort of generator noise. Now they have cordoned it off.

Though my favourite of today night have been if your tin opener breaks, go out and buy some ring pull ones.

Saying that I look through all the T&Cs carefully on my insurance and always phone and check. I suspect some insurers might not allow anything and then use that to wriggle out of paying for any claim.

We’re with Direct Line for contents insurance (no idea about buildings as it’s arranged by the freeholder) and they say on their website that there’s no need to contact them if you’re working from home doing purely admin.

They’re not always the cheapest but they were the most understanding (for an insurance company anyway) about the fact I don’t always park in my own postcode. Churchill wouldn’t believe me that there’s well over 100 houses in my road and told me I’d need to inform them each time I parked in a different postcode!

@DominaShantotto Im thinking of getting a slanket.

@wanderings
Yes wouldn’t have minded a bit of booing myself

@justasking111
And Gwilym Owen from wales
So incensed at Tesco blocking off the children’s clothes aisle he started ripping off the plastic

I had a slanket once but being a short arse it was miles too big. long , so back to a throw and my warmest dressing gown.

Clothes are not essential 🤔 www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/supermarket-non-essential-pants-tesco-19160918

@MercyBooth

Something weird happening here. Have blokes in hi vis jackets outside with torches and traffic cones, looking at the ground by the flats opposite and some sort of generator noise. Now they have cordoned it off.

blocked drains, backing up perhaps, the genny. for sucking out debris. Helluva of a noisy when they clear our neighbours drains.

@MissEWeatherwax

I’m not sure having a chat is treated as providing care. Honestly sometimes they won’t even answer the phone. Phone calls are so hard work and he ends the call after 5 minutes. And my DM is going deaf and won’t wear a hearing aid, because only old people need them and she is too vain.

I'd count a welfare visit and chat as care especially when phones/ technology are inadequate. Especially with people who don't like to make a fuss, you pick up far more by seeing them and letting conversation develop naturally.

Friends with DCs, I can oblige by meeting outside, but when someone will have their welfare compromised by extended time outside, their well being is more important than blind adherence to tier 2 regulations.
The rules exist to reduce harm to welfare and should not aggravate harm to vulnerable people.

Could be. The weather here is fucking terrible today.

Some of the posters on the Wales thread are thoroughly enjoying themselves. I’ve been told that if I need equipment for work to order it on Amazon or let work supply it. I’m working from home and it’s so much quicker for me to drive to Tesco, buy the equipment and claim for it but no, we must all be martyrs.

(I’m not in Wales but it’s the principle, but to be honest I don’t think even Boris is daft enough to try it here!)

Mercy, there’s a blocked water main here too. Lot of noise.

Re care visits, I think over 80 no one would question it. I have to do care stuff for my mum and even then the doc says she’s doing well for her age.

I forgot to say - we had the council come to install the fall alarm and when I explained why I was there, the council lady said “quite right too”. We had been worried in case she queried it (Tier 2).

My mother is now calling it “my diamond pendant”

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Some of the posters on the Wales thread are thoroughly enjoying themselves. I’ve been told that if I need equipment for work to order it on Amazon or let work supply it. I’m working from home and it’s so much quicker for me to drive to Tesco, buy the equipment and claim for it but no, we must all be martyrs.

(I’m not in Wales but it’s the principle, but to be honest I don’t think even Boris is daft enough to try it here!)

Oh theres a couple of old cats on there having a ball theyre knocking around other threads like Dick and Dom

My friend went to visit her elderly parents, outwardly things seemed ok, until she opened the fridge, mother of god the penicillin growing on some of the food which was pushed to the back gave her such a shock. She now pops in regularly just to make sure things are ticking over.