ADs self isolate in a fridge Boris style

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We've polished off our hotel breakfasts, flocked to the beaches and eaten out to help out with Rishi. Now the D-Day style floatilla of Anti-Dementor boats weather the stormy seas of tiers 1, 2 and 3 and support each other through the calls for lockdown.

Hold on tight and get those bouyancy aids on...

I've been to a gig! I won't say where and who, but at a fab venue who are doing their best and it felt very safe, while being not too abnormal.

It's so unbelievably hard not to sing! Or do a little illegal 'whoo' between songs. (We were allowed to clap and stamp our feet) .

It was brilliant! Really special. Resilience levels topped up a little.

More cheery news. GG have relaxed their guidence so tier 2 is the same risk assessment as tier 1. Can even continue in tier 3 subject to appropriate risk assessments. Better news than I thought an hour or so ago.

That's brilliant. I wondered if it could class as education....

Ive had a party the guests under 6 years of age. Was lovely eldest said when can we have another party. Am knackered the halloween decorating, cooking, cleaning was all worth it and best of all they got to wear their halloween outfits. After tomorrow we are not supposed to see them for 17 days.

And I'm back from seeing a play @Thanksitsgotpockets! Also at a venue which had put in a lot of protocols to make it safe - and it was equally lovely to be back! The actors (small cast) were in a bubble so were able to hug and kiss. It felt like coming home for me (I normally see a LOT of theatre, and its where I used to work). Now want to see more,...

I would love to go to a gig. I miss live music and the theatre.
I am fed up with people saying, if they have said illness and I can wear a mask so can you. Also they do know that PSTD and anxiety and panic attacks are different for different people. Never mind the rest.
Just think of all the money that could be saved if we it really was that simple.
Also the war one, you would think there had been no murders, black market. I bet there we even murders during the Black Death.

Sorry but I am on the verge of losing it!! I want to run around screaming you fucking idiots can you actually understand what the fuck you are doing??!! I am soooo fucking angry after having a close family friend being told that they are now terminal due to the cancer being picked up too late! I have 2 other friends who need a check up for cancer and its being pushed on! 1 has a serious family history!!! I am seeing people old and young being abandoned and forgotten about for this! Watching a small town that I grew up in crumble into nothing, seeing people abused in the street, seeing my medical friends feeling helpless as they aren't allowed to speak out!! Yet still seeing selfish ignorant fuckers on other threads blaming others!! 'Oh schools spread it!' ffs no shit sherlock kids get bugs fucking newsflash there!! 'Hospitals are getting busy' another massive shock during winter!!! 'NHS is under pressure' really tell me another every year as this time!!! Sorry for the rant but I'm literally about to explode with fury due to the fear mongering allowing this to continue!!!!

@Wishfulthinking1977

Sorry but I am on the verge of losing it!! I want to run around screaming you fucking idiots can you actually understand what the fuck you are doing??!! I am soooo fucking angry after having a close family friend being told that they are now terminal due to the cancer being picked up too late! I have 2 other friends who need a check up for cancer and its being pushed on! 1 has a serious family history!!! I am seeing people old and young being abandoned and forgotten about for this! Watching a small town that I grew up in crumble into nothing, seeing people abused in the street, seeing my medical friends feeling helpless as they aren't allowed to speak out!! Yet still seeing selfish ignorant fuckers on other threads blaming others!! 'Oh schools spread it!' ffs no shit sherlock kids get bugs fucking newsflash there!! 'Hospitals are getting busy' another massive shock during winter!!! 'NHS is under pressure' really tell me another every year as this time!!! Sorry for the rant but I'm literally about to explode with fury due to the fear mongering allowing this to continue!!!!

This in spades.

I hear you Wishfulthinking1977 and totally agree.
My aunt was diagnosed with cancer but had her treatment pushed back for 7 months and and would you believe the tumours are bigger!! What a surprise.

It’s the feeling of being helpless. Of having to go along with whatever shite rules the government think up next and being expected to believe all the one sided excuses they constantly come up with. They’ve messed up but are too far down the path to admit it so we are going deeper into the hole. And all the hysteria in the press gives me the rage.

@MissEWeatherwax

i doubt that will improve the figures on self isolation. Why would ppl self isolate when they know their kids will go hungry if they lose their job.

I do agree it's getting crazier on here again. Not to TAAT but when I mentioned in 2019 that locking your child in a room for 2 weeks with no contact would be a case for social services I was told kids had to isolate all the time for measles. Well we also used to send children to work but if I told social services I shoved DS up the chimney I don't think their response would be chim-chim-cheree either. I watch a lot of historical drama and there is a lot we don't want to go back to just because we did it in the past.

Ignoring all the non-covid illness does seems to be a particular NHS failing though. Most other countries including where I am either ran hospitals as normal throughout or resumed shortly after. I had to go for an ultrasound (non pregnancy) in lockdown and even needed an official permission to go outside form. But the hospital was open and running. I don't really know if the NHS is suffering more from years of underfunding or a reluctance to keep it funded into the future at all.

"when I mentioned in 2019 that locking your child in a room for 2 weeks with no contact would be a case for social services"

I don't want to belittle anyone's experiences of domestic abuse, but my work had some sort of checklist that was shared the other day about abusive relationships and honestly reading it I felt I was in one with the government.

Good article @taswama
Looking at the number of hospital acquired infections, maybe govt should close them too (obviously joking).

I have always pointed out that if you're on a ventilator you're essentially in a medically induced coma, so comfort isn't an issue.

And @Wishfulthinking1977

I haven't been on these threads for ages but I'm having a hard time today already. Mulling over the realisation that my 5yo won't be going to any parties this year and she loves parties and school won't let them even sing happy birthday because apparently singing will kill people. Very much feel like putting up a pic of the headteacher looking like Olivier Cromwell on the school gates for half term, but we have some dementors in the school mum crowd.

I'm also in agony with a broken tooth and have been for weeks and weeks. Had to fork out for private care on it as NHS refused (same dentist though ) and now have to have follow up filling but can't really afford the private fees.

Also feeling sluggish and lardy because I get no time to exercise because I'm working all the time trying to tread water with out covid workload.

Booked some.time away for half term to try to raise spirits but now we can't make some important changes to our booking because they won't pick up phones (because we might cough down the line????) Or answer emails. So we may have to cancel. Raaaah

@Wishfulthinking1977 exactly!

I had a dream last night that I was at a gloriously glamorous party - all chandeliers, champagne, floor length dresses, the works... I’m normally quite antisocial and not a big fan of parties but this complete lack of socialisation and not having anything to look forward to is getting to me now ...

I’ve lost my appetite - I’m just not feeling hungry and have to force myself to eat. The last time I felt like this was when I had severe anxiety as a student and ending up with a diet of satsumas for about two months as that was the only thing I could force down. Very good for losing weight (not that I needed to then ...) not so good for general health and well-being

I am better today. Thank you all for this thread and letting me get my feelings out.

I feel angry and sad altogether. I feel as though I am being punished for existing. That my simple life was somehow wrong, that I am wrong in wanting things like libraries back unbooked and unmasked.

I am angry that I have seen no feminist pushback except on these threads on what these restrictions are doing to women and children. I wish I were more articulate on the subject myself but I am a complete nobody so no one would listen anyway.

And I wish there were a way to ungag the medics who disagree with these approaches. Oh, wait, it's #nodebate again isn't it?

The whole political climate has been dismantling itself into a toxic sludge over the past 5+ years. Not just Covid, or Brexit, but the quality of political debate in the broadest sense amongst the population. Where the most derided place you can be is in the middle ground, unrepresented and shut down by the deepening extremes at either end of an issue.

In lighter news, the DCs are on an INSET day and we're off to the zoo.
Back when it reopened, late June we went within the first week or two and had a fanstastic day. One of the highlights of the year. I asked the DCs if they felt that they would want to go at least 3 times which they did, so we got an annual membership. It had occurred to me that autumn/ winter could be problematic and one of the first things to open should be one of the last to be shut down. So today we break even on it with plenty of chance to return.

I need to sort us out a couple more outings on the NT card probably the open air museum, otherwise it will be a week of minecraftminecraftminecraft, pokemonpokemonpokemon.

I've felt quite muddled this week. So much is changing at a national/ local issue.

I won't want to be reckless and do my own thing at all costs (even if I had the option). I want to be pragmatic and live sensibly. The boundaries on that change. In reality the way I live is generally low risk anyway. If I'm having a rare once in months catch up with someone, I don't want hypothermia from it, and I really can't see the difference that a couple of spare children make.

It's just hard to see the wood for the trees at the moment and feel secure about where you stand.

Locally cases are up and the pattern has spread from the inner city to the suburbs. Maybe herd immunity is kicking in in the areas that were hit in the first place and a steady trickle since. But the reality is, I'm mainly outside when I'm not at home.

The whole tone on the rest of MN has gone rather unpleasant on to just about any random topic with a core of posters keen to keep sticking the boot into an OP repeatedly. At least Covid threads tend to be straight forward to anticipate what you will get and to avoid. The Fear seems to have ramped back up again and permeating into random subjects. Especially struggling parents, lots of those seem to be getting an extra rough response this week.

@Bellesavage You could instead put Boris as looking like Cromwell - that might be less of a "personal attack" on the school head. Boris is a reluctant Cromwell, it would hurt his ego terribly to actually be Cromwell.

We need more things like "The Three Bellends" sign, to show public anger at our esteemed leaders - that sign can't have been cheap to produce, the pub owner must have felt very strongly about it. It's notable that Saint Boris hasn't "ordered" it to be taken down, in the name of treason against Her Majesty's government; but Boris has such twisted values that any publicity for him is good publicity.

I would really like a Three Bellends t-shirt but can’t find one. They are really missing a trick with that - it would be a sell out.
On a grumpy note, I bumped into an acquaintance out dog walking this morning. Her chemo was stopped during lockdown and she’s just spent a week in hospital due to complications from her cancer. How is that ever right? She also lost her mum a few weeks ago and didn’t get to say goodbye. I’m so bloody angry with this useless government and their pointless rules.

@Iheartmysmart it’s all so inhumane, and goes across what I thought were cardinal values

Tweet the pub and suggest t shirts!

Nearly a third false positive tests . So now we know.

www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/high-rate-false-positive-covid-19146082

In more good news my daughter’s wedding which had to be brought forward due to future MIL’s ill health now looks as though it will be literally 4 of us at the registry office unless we are prepared to break the rules to have a cup of tea and a slice of cake at DD’s house. The restrictions have gone up a tier so no mixing indoors 😭