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ADs self isolate in a fridge Boris style

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BogRollBOGOF · 14/10/2020 19:37

We've polished off our hotel breakfasts, flocked to the beaches and eaten out to help out with Rishi. Now the D-Day style floatilla of Anti-Dementor boats weather the stormy seas of tiers 1, 2 and 3 and support each other through the calls for lockdown.

Hold on tight and get those bouyancy aids on...

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 19/10/2020 07:17

@110APiccadilly
What makes me sick is I work with vulnerable children and young people.

When something like this happens the dementors say that the numbers that this and DA murders are tiny compared to covid.
If you say covid deaths are low compared to other deaths they say "one death is one too many".
So, what is it then? You either care about people dying of preventable causes or you don't? And suicide is a dammed sight more preventable than fucking covid.

110APiccadilly · 19/10/2020 07:22

@LivinLaVidaLoki
Numbers might be low (though, unlike Covid, the numbers from the lockdown impacts will keep rising for the next few years) but if we were to look at QALYs, I wonder how they'd compare.

(I know I'm preaching to the choir here.)

RobinHobb · 19/10/2020 07:27

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Saw this today. When will people wake up and see the toll this is taking?
I don't know what to say.
Taswama · 19/10/2020 07:30

Good luck this week with your dc at home @TrustTheGeneGenie . DS1 goes back today after 10 days off. By Friday afternoon my stress level were right back up to where they were in June. He's 13 and autistic but in mainstream with support. Of course at home I can offer less then he would get at school and I had numerous meetings too, including one that lasted 3 hours.

Bollss · 19/10/2020 07:51

@Taswama

Good luck this week with your dc at home *@TrustTheGeneGenie* . DS1 goes back today after 10 days off. By Friday afternoon my stress level were right back up to where they were in June. He's 13 and autistic but in mainstream with support. Of course at home I can offer less then he would get at school and I had numerous meetings too, including one that lasted 3 hours.
Thank you Flowers I'm just glad D's is 4 so hopefully I might be some use with his work! Glad to hear your ds is going back, I hope you both have a better day today!

By the messages weve had on seesaw I think ds's teacher is equally pissed that they've all been sent home!

Reedwarbler · 19/10/2020 08:08

Changing the subject slightly, H and I were watching a film last night. In it were many scenes of crowds of people behaving normally, and, do you know, it looks odd now? I thought 'Oh, they're close together, and a big crowd too', then I had to mentally slap and remind myself that what we have now is totally abnormal. Funny how quickly you become accustomed to things though.
Incidentally the film had Miranda Hart in it (it was 'Spy' I think) looking painfully thin. Was that the end of her Hollywood expedition?

Recycledblonde · 19/10/2020 08:36

When I’m not triaging elderly people who are massively anxious/suicidal I’m talking to students from our four local universities who are really struggling particularly the first years, bereft of their usual coping mechanisms and thrown under the bus by the authorities. All I can do is organise a phone call from our massively overworked mental health services and point them in the direction of online services.
Did anyone else read the Sunday Times magazine article about young carers and how they are sinking without support? It made this generally very tough and pragmatic paramedic cry with the utter hopelessness and, frankly, the verging on criminal behaviour of our government.

AcornAutumn · 19/10/2020 09:04

Oh Recycled there are no words.

I was on the ledge during lockdown. A neighbour talked me down before I got to the literal ledge - I live on a high floor. It was close to be honest, I owe her a lot.

BogRollBOGOF · 19/10/2020 09:21

I like Spy Grin

I love seeing real normal. I thought it was weird when within the first 2 or 3 weeks of this, people were going on about how anxious they were seeing normal socialising on TV. Now is far more understandable after 7 months of conditioning, but a few weeks?

I felt really emotional rewatching the Olympic opening ceremony ba k in the summer. Such a joyful, exuberent celebration, and I remember watching it first time around. A week later I got a positive pregnancy test for DS2! Glastonbury welled me up too. I've never been. In reality I's struggle with the crowds and noise to see the big acts, but I love the idea of it and the crowd atmosphere.

I hope with what we know anout outdoor transmission that there will be far more outdoor events next year.

Yesterday's race was really quiet. Trail races are quieter anyway, but with the county and many surrounding areas being hit by tier 2 in the last week, many people seemed to take advantage of the last minute option to run virtually. I'm within average pace for a woman and while numbers spread out as a race develops, I've never felt alone by mile 3 of a HM before.
This morning timehop has thrown up pictures of my first HM 6 years ago. Bug city road race. Thousands of runners packed in. Streets lined with spectators.
I miss it. Glad to be racing again, but I miss thar road racing atmosphere.

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Curlygirl06 · 19/10/2020 09:26

[quote HeIenaDove]www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8852971/Greater-Manchester-Police-delete-tweet-ordering-people-carry-proof-exempt.html[/quote]
I've had to tell so many people, including management at work, that no one has to prove they are exempt. Drives me insane.

DominaShantotto · 19/10/2020 09:29

I miss normal so much. When I'm in the conservatory working and the wind is blowing the right way I can hear the playtime at the nearest primary school, the trains tooting horns and the not too distant hum of the M1 and I can kind of forget this shitfest is happening - but then I'm at home 24-7 doing uni on a laptop and DH is in the other room being bloody irritating - so the feeling doesn't last for long.

My motivation and focus for uni work is dwindling terrifyingly soon - I can see everyone's marks absolutely nosediving.

Orangeblossom7777 · 19/10/2020 09:50

Just to mention something about vitamin D. It's meant to help taking vitamin K with it. It's not expensive. I'll find something about this.

betteryou.com/vitamin-d-vitamin-k

www.nutriadvanced.co.uk/news/thinking-of-supplementing-with-vitamin-d-think-vitamin-k2-too/

Evenstar · 19/10/2020 09:55

Totally agree about things on TV looking abnormal, I almost recoil seeing crowds, handshakes, people being able to sit close together and not using hand sanitizer. I feel so uncomfortable and agree that you have to remind yourself that what you are seeing is normal and not what we are living now. I hate what this has done to us mentally ☹️

DominaShantotto · 19/10/2020 10:05

I'm sick of photos and TV shows with people sat really awkwardly exactly 2m apart in every direction - and I want to string the smug bugger up on the BBC 1 ident with the isolation disco with his fucking fairy lights.

Uni mental health saying that they're more snowed under now with the uncertainty and ever changing goalposts than they were during the initial period of lockdown - was talking to one of their mental health workers the other day and as usual it was 5 minutes of what I needed to talk to him about (I wanted backing to apply for a parking pass) and 25 minutes of putting the world to rights as I think he enjoys speaking to someone older and with a different perspective to the younger undergrads!

Looking at our uni's week by week figures there was an initial massive spike when they all moved in and started sharing germs (and probably assorted other bodily fluids knowing freshers) and then it's tailing off. One "big" outbreak in a halls and apparently the staff there are run off their feet taking umpteen deliveries up to the flats in question constantly - so it sounds like the students have just been sat there spending their loans on internet shopping like the rest of us! At least it seems that our uni are supporting the students unlike some of the others - I really can't fault them in that regard to be fair. It may be one that makes MN clutch their pearls in horror but actually when the chips are down - there are good eggs there.

Taswama · 19/10/2020 10:13

Egg and chips sounds yummy!
DP having a massive dislike of the smell of eggs means I don't even make myself an omlette for lunch these days!

BogRollBOGOF · 19/10/2020 10:20

DH has palpitations when I've had the audacity to have fish. I miss him working away so we could eat fish in peace. It's not just cooking something different for him, he objects to the cooking smells or from the bin for hours afterwards.
Mind you after a bad experience with tinned tuna in 1994, I've never been comfortable around that partcular smell and it is pungent and lasting!

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SirSamuelVimes · 19/10/2020 10:22

Ooh egg and chips. Haven't had that in years.

I've got a cold. So has dd2, and to a lesser extent dd1. I'm ignoring it, no way I'm checking temperatures and throwing us into test & quarantine territory. We're all snotty as hell and with sore throats so there's fuck all chance of it being Covid. However it does demonstrate that all this mask and sanitise crap is doing fuck all - germs are not to be stopped!

IAintentDead · 19/10/2020 10:32

[quote Orangeblossom7777]Just to mention something about vitamin D. It's meant to help taking vitamin K with it. It's not expensive. I'll find something about this.

betteryou.com/vitamin-d-vitamin-k

www.nutriadvanced.co.uk/news/thinking-of-supplementing-with-vitamin-d-think-vitamin-k2-too/[/quote]
Yes - I thought about recommending K too but few people are deficient in K and it is present in lots of foods (particularly greens). It won't hurt to take more but at 4000 (or even 8000ug for a few months) it's not likely to be necessary. It's one more thing to buy and take and just adds that tiny bit of extra hassle. So I didn't bother.
I took it when taking 20,000 units but didn't rebuy after I went down to 10000.

TL:DR We are likely to be deficient in D, not likely to be deficient in K and unless taking enormous doses not necessary.

There's lots of beneficial supplements out there and I do take other things but don't like pushing them.

NastyBlouse · 19/10/2020 11:45

We love fish but the smell doesn't half hang around after I pan-fry it. Cod seems particularly bad for this -- which is strange for a fish that has very little flavour, it reeks the whole room out (we're open plan here, so kitchen, dining room and living room are all one space).

I might try for a Pratchett namechange myself...

NastyBlouse · 19/10/2020 11:50

Boo. I wanted BloodyStupidJohnson because, you know, duality but someone quicker off the mark than me already has it.

SirSamuelVimes · 19/10/2020 12:03

@NastyBlouse

Boo. I wanted BloodyStupidJohnson because, you know, duality but someone quicker off the mark than me already has it.
Boo indeed. Would have been a corker.
Recycledblonde · 19/10/2020 12:08

Libby Purves article in today's Times. Hopefully the tide is turning.

ADs self isolate in a fridge Boris style
LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 19/10/2020 12:29

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/live-updates-decision-coronavirus-fire-19126437

Primary schools will reopen after half term but secondaries will shut for all but Years Seven and Eight

That's the one that will affect us - two children including Y11 at home one in.
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^First Minister Mark Drakeford has ordered people to stay at home for two weeks to break the rapidly increasing spread of coronavirus in Wales.

A fire-break lockdown will be come into force in Wales from this Friday, October 23, and run until Monday, November 9.

Mr Drakeford said that:

People must work from home unless they are critical workers
All non-essential retail, gyms, leisure centres, bars, restaurants and hospitality must close
Community centres, libraries and recycling centres will close
All indoor and outdoor gatherings with people you don't live with are banned^

wanderings · 19/10/2020 12:35

A "fire break". Are they calling it that so they're not calling it the same thing as the "circuit break"?

And is Drakeford GUARANTEEING, PROMISING, SWEARING on pain of death that it will end on November 9th???? Is he?????

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 19/10/2020 12:43

And is Drakeford GUARANTEEING, PROMISING, SWEARING on pain of death that it will end on November 9th???? Is he?????

Don't know but saw talk of four weeks being needed before this announcement so I do admit I have concerns - though mainly it's the schools that impact us. We're already in local lockdown.

My Y9 and Y11 have both missed 2 weeks in school and had to do "blended learning schooling" at home due to postive tests in their years - and now they have it again.

I do see why - they want parents to be able to go out to work and younger the kids less likley to spread virus but my Y11 lost so much time and even though the on-line teaching is so much better than lockdown it's not the same or as good according to my kids.