The ADs get ready to rumble then have a nice cuppa tea

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Watch us wreck the mike, watch us wreck the mike, watch us wreck the mike.
Psych.

Now gather nicely in groups of no more than six...
Unless you're outdoors in Wales...

Oh well, come on in whatever the laws where you are. Plenty of space in this bubble of sanity

@PickAChew, I could be wrong but it’s rumoured that we are going into local lockdown.The councils have got together. No visiting houses and curfew. I can’t not visit my Mam and Dad again, I can’t.
I hope it’s just a rumour, but they won’t leave us out if countries next to us go in lockdown.

I wasn't technically last time, with my son, who doesn't live with me, renting my spare room as an office (couldn't work from home with no wifi, which is now sorted). I now intend to go about my normal life, regardless of restrictions. It won't involve breaking them much because most of normal life fits in with them but when it suits me I will.

Not sure if the rule of 6 involves no more than 2 households, if it does - tough as I will have my 2 friends around next week from different ones. And will have my son & girlfriend and my daughter at the end of the month.

It was in The Northern Echo. I hope to god it isn’t true, but I’m frightened. Pathetic I know.

Thanks for those memes. Gave me a laugh.
Had a day at work last week and saw 2 people I hadn't seen in the flesh since March. Had lovely lunch together sat in the sun at the picnic benches outside our offices. Back at work today, picnic benches now have hazard tape all over them! Really rather depressed at that. I rarely use those benches as I normally go offsite for lunch but obviously someone decided we weren't social distancing properly or whatever.

What I don't get is no one seems to be acknowledging the cruel impact of restrictions on some members of society.

Elderly in care homes - justified because "I'd rather my nan was alive". Really, but she's only got a year left and you haven't seen her for 8 months.

Also , that panorama program with parents of special needs kids. Are they just collateral damage?

Exactly who are these restrictions benefiting?

You know something that’s recently dawned on me? These full on lockdown-lovers, when you ask them why some lateral thinking and tailored measures to support vulnerable people couldn’t have been applied, they don’t answer.

For example: oh no, there’s no way a woman experiencing bleeding in pregnancy should have her partner with her for scans, that’s just roolz.

Ok then, why couldn’t partners have been admitted with full PPE, as maternity units would be pretty bloody quiet anyway?

Silence.

No, no, children with complex learning difficulties just had to stay at home with their parents instead of going to school, giving them structure and their parents respite.

But if keyworkers’ kids could be in school then why not these kids, who are so vulnerable?

Silence again.

This lot would not piss on you if you were aflame and yet they are now the keepers of the Great British Moral Compass.

My kids have SN but are in mainstream. Both schools said they could go in and one of them did start going in part way through. But many Special schools just closed entirely. I don't understand how they were even allowed to do this when the guidance was schools should stay open for key workers and vulnerable children.

You're right. The lockdown lovers are the lowest of the low as far as I'm concerned.

They don't actually care about anyone but themselves.

YES @AgentCooper i posted similar on a mask thread.

"I wear one but hate it. Im really starting to resent it though because some of the ones ive seen on here who are really gung ho about masks and banging on about how we are all in it together have spent the past ten years voting for the opposite. Along comes Covid and their want for individualism goes out of the window.
Having seen their attitudes to single parents, disabled people , social housing tenants over the years i cant help getting a distinct whiff of people in these groups being expected to wear masks to protect their "betters"

One of the most gung ho about it was absolutely incredulous when i suggested low income families should get them for free.

"You think people should get them for free?! she replied. Yep all in this together eh! hmm

Tells you all you need to know.
People were being told to make masks out of old socks.

Meanwhile the construction industry are allowed to carry on as normal ( we had ELEVEN WEEKS of a roof renewal and its been hell as well as including a visit from the fire brigade but fuck us eh, we are only tenants) and the workmen have a tiny site office on our estate No masks in sight.

So yes i wear a mask But am really starting to resent it when i know others wouldnt give me the steam off their piss if i was sat homeless in the street yet want me to wear a mask to protect others"

Hi all! Was a long term poster on this thread from the start but had to take a break from MN for my sanity. De-registered so had to come back with a name change.
Just reading through the thread... hope you’re all ok.

@TrustTheGeneGenie but they are the ones telling us we care about no one but ourselves.

I've been called a bitch recently.

[quote MxEWeatherwax]@PickAChew, I could be wrong but it’s rumoured that we are going into local lockdown.The councils have got together. No visiting houses and curfew. I can’t not visit my Mam and Dad again, I can’t.
I hope it’s just a rumour, but they won’t leave us out if countries next to us go in lockdown.[/quote]
It's all over the local papers and some of the restrictions were mentioned in a letter written by the local authorities. Ironically, the South of the region isn't included

Could North Wales Police be anti dementors??

"North Wales Police has now provided further advice, asking people to avoid calling them to report breaches, and to avoid reporting people who are not wearing face masks.

Temporary assistant chief constable Nigel Harrison said: “Complying with the regulations is about social responsibility and keeping our families safe.

"The police should not be routinely contacted for people not wearing face coverings.

"If anyone has concerns, they should first raise it with the management of the premises."

www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-police-what-you-18942218

[quote chocolatesweets]@TrustTheGeneGenie but they are the ones telling us we care about no one but ourselves.

I've been called a bitch recently. [/quote]
Honestly I think that they truly believe they are right and we are wrong. That they are caring and considerate and we are cold and harsh.

Let's face it, they want restrictions to protect them. Do they fuck care about anyone else.

I personally do care about everyone else, I care about covid victims but I also care about neglected children, mental health, lack of other care and also just people struggling generally.

Do I care if someone gives me covid? Not especially. Do I think people have a duty to protect me? No.

Im down in North Essex to those of you possibly facing this lockdown shit again.

And yeah, ds2's special school was closed to all but a tiny handful. All their pupils are vulnerable so I can understand why they did but he's going to be pretty confused and upset if we go back to no school again.

@TrustTheGeneGenie YES! nailed it! Thank you. My brain's not working but you did the work for me.

@MxEWeatherwax

It was in The Northern Echo. I hope to god it isn’t true, but I’m frightened. Pathetic I know.

The councils may have got together but the local councillors know nowt (well they didn't as of about 5pm this evening when I was speaking to the one in my family)!

I get it though - I was a wreck when they locked Leicester down as it was near us and we're an area of concern ourselves at the moment - but now I've just reached "fuck it" level and will carry on being sensible, following the rules wherever possible but I am not tying myself up in knots calculating that there are only 6 of us stood at the school gate together mingling outrageously from 2m apart for 3 minutes at school pickup.

@HelenaDove absolutely. They don’t care about people, they probably don’t even like people. They just have a massive hard on for Rules. I mean, if you can say someone getting Covid is worse than someone dying of an overdose because their support group is gone, worse than someone’s cancer becoming inoperable because it was left too long, then you really do not care about people because you can’t be selective like that. You won’t entertain the idea of some kind of compromise to protect highly vulnerable people from the effects of lockdown because you care about rules more than people. And they come out with ‘you think vulnerable people are just collateral damage.’ No mate, you do.

Hello hello again! I’ve been gone for a while as I’ve been trying to MN less (DH bought me a new phone that gives me a screen time update every morning, and it’s not pretty 😬) but I missed the sanity of these threads, so I’m back! What did I miss?

DCs are back at school, and surprise! DS has an epically snotty nose already (I’m sitting in his room listening to him sniffle and snort as he tries to get to sleep). According to 145278 threads about schools, ill children and testing, if I send him in tomorrow I’m an irresponsible teacher-killer who thinks I’m too special to follow the rules (even though he has no cough or temp), and if I keep him
home and try and get a rest, I’m hysterical, overreacting and the reason the testing system is in collapse 🤷‍♀️ Glad that’s all straightforward then!

@chocolatesweets

Exactly who are these restrictions benefiting?

Mainly overweight, middle aged men in salaried jobs. (And some women)

All the people that they are supposed to be benefiting other than that have more restrictions than benefits.

Kids and young people are not allowed to be kids and young people.

Those on minimum wage are generally still working - often with no protection.

People in insecure jobs - fucked

People in jobs in Covid affected industries - fucked

People with responsibility for children and other dependents (mostly women) are fucked.

Elderly are being left to fester, with no social interaction and unable to do what they used to maintain their mobility - fucked.

People without physical responsibility for others, able to work from home or with secure salaries - Woo Hoo (mostly, but not entirely by any means, middle aged men.

@RealityExistsInTheHumanMind agree with everything you’ve just said. My FIL is in hospital right now with stomach pains and confusion. He’s 84. He’s not allowed visitors. He got up in the night, didn’t know where he was and fell. He needs family around him to keep him engaged and explain things to him in a way he understands.

Thankfully he’s better today, had a procedure to help with an impacted bowel and spoke to DH on the phone. But these restrictions are not benefiting him, they are hurting him. In a fucking nearly empty hospital.

Me and my friend have already said we will be seeing each other if we get locked down. We both complied for weeks the first time round, not again. It's frustrating that people don't acknowledge that just because we have a husband and kids that we don't need other people. I appreciate we are in a better position than those who live alone but we need our friends and extended family in order to make life bearable.

If they shut the pubs and restaurants they better pay our wages, there will be uproar amongst hospitality staff if we are forced to live on benefits. There is no way the system could survive with so many job losses though which gives me a tiny glimmer of hope. It's not even about the money for me really but the fact that working gives me some sanity away and a time to be me away from 2 small children.

My husband told me today that a couple of his colleague's were off sick with symptoms. The rest are to stay in work until a positive test in which case everyone isolates. To be that seems madness, by that point they will have all been exposed to one another for several days so what good is isolating going to do exactly?! Granted it means they couldn't spread it amongst the general public but since we are supposed to stay apart anyway I'm not sure how easy it is to actually spread..

@mightbealittlebitmad none of my friends will break the rules with me 😢

@TrustTheGeneGenie I have seen on more that one occasion, most recently yesterday, some posters saying how they 'loved lockdown'. I am amazed by this, and rather horrified. How sad is your life that you enjoy being under virtual house arrest?