Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

@SunshineOutdoors

I would delete my comments if I could. Apologies.

You can report your own post and MN should delete

Im not sure that black people exist to serve as various lessons for your children, Gardenfish

But wouldn't that be segregating black people even more? That they need a separate section of MN?!

No it doesn't mean more segregation.

Have a good think for yourself as to why this won't be the case?

@Alwaysinpain

But wouldn't that be segregating black people even more? That they need a separate section of MN?!

Segregation is forcible, not voluntary. This is the facilitation of a conversation, a "topic", if you will. 🤔 Should we do away with topics? Just have one big general chat? Lest anything be "segregated" to the detriment of the education of those apparently without access to google?

Segregation for the sake of segregation isn’t good

No-one is talking about segregation here, and it's sinister that so many posters seem to assume that is what would happen.

It's just another board. Anyone could read it and post on it, if they so wish. But it's a board specifically about black issues.

So like we have one for longhaul travel, and another for shorthaul travel. We have one for low carb diets and one for calorie counted diets.

This is just another board. Why on earth are people getting so het up about it? One would almost think people didn't want black MNetters to have a space to post their own issues

BIWI

@BIWI heavens no, that couldn't be 

@Alwaysinpain making an assumption based on your username here; would you feel as though you're being segregated if you posted on a health board about a long term health condition you have?

People always get het up about new boards. If it's not for them, they don't understand why anyone else would need/use it.
Chat is pointless for discussions like this. Site Stuff is better because you can make a clear case for the need and iron out the practicalities eg the name of the section. It might also be worthwhile to recommend a lobby group MNHQ could work with to ensure the correct name is chosen, create some guidelines. There will be lots of people waiting to jump on them for mistakes if they create this section. They'll complain the name is racist, etc, so it's better to try to proactively offset those problems by pointing towards a group that can help work through it.

Heavens, SunshineOutdoors - no need for so much hand wringing! I wasn't suggesting you had any malign intent. And I understood the origin of your comment. And indicated why, in my opinion - which might not be anyone else's - it Would Not Do.

No one's asking you to delete your comment.

I hope that was low carb cake @Pan2

Whoops..... BIWI

What's funny about this thread...

When I started a thread a few months back (https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3928451-you-re-white-you-haven-t-experienced-racism) I was delightfully informed by white people that if I hadn't mentioned white people then I wouldn't receive whataboutery comments.

This thread, I started it with a simple request. The first comment... Whataboutery.

Dear black people of Mumsnet
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4019832-dear-black-people-of-mumsnet

Idea thread.

@Alwaysinpain

But wouldn't that be segregating black people even more? That they need a separate section of MN?!

White people segregated us a long time ago. We're just following through with the hand we've been dealt.

@Gardenfish

If topics about colour come up in a black section, how as a white mum can I ever learn and teach my daughter not to make the same mistakes.

I get the the augmented, about being there a sen section. It’s not the same.

If a separated section is created, these topics that I should be reading may not get read.

Most U.K. news papers are managed by white public school boys. The voices are there, the U.K. badly lacks platforms.

Have I missed something?

Why should you be reading threads by black people?

There's tons of books. Go ahead and research. We're not here to teach you how to stop racially abusing us.

@PatricksRum

Dear black people of Mumsnet www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4019832-dear-black-people-of-mumsnet

Idea thread.

I wonder how long it will take before this is hijacked by idiots... 5 minutes...?

Even less than that @doadeer

I’ve already reported the first post😏

Obviously not commenting as the thread isn’t for me.

I wonder how long it will take before this is hijacked by idiots

It won't take long because it's in Chat again , it starts by saying 'not white people' and posters already think it's a TAAT.
And OP has been here long enough to know exactly how that will all play out.

Not to hijack the suggested topic which is so important with my white needs but I know there are lots of us who are white and mums to mixed race kids... Id love a thread where we could chat and get advice. I'd also love to hear from mixed race adults about things they wish their parents had considered etc.

What books should we be reading?
I don't know a single black person and obviously can't ask anything on here any more .

Oh, dear God, I just saw the other thread. I'm kind of despairing of humanity after reading those responses.

Do lots of MNers not know about google?

I'll admit I didn't really get what the expression was white privilege. I think it's the privilege but that gets lost in translation.

But I've learnt (and hope I understand right)

I believe it to be exactly what people in this thread don't understand.
If you post it's very likely to be answered by a while female. We get responses which are very much from people with our experience.

So that our privilege.

BAME people want the same. They want to be able to post and have people with their experience respond. They want an area where they don't feel like the minority and people don't get it.

I hope I've understood right. I'm always willing to be educated.