Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

These threads always go the same way!
‘It’d be really good if I could have something that would benefit me as a black person’, ‘that’s not fair what about.....?’
‘I’m having a hard time as a black person because..’, ‘other people are having a hard time what about...?’

@MidnightCitrus

I recommend this book.

www.amazon.co.uk/Longer-Talking-White-People-About/dp/1408870584

@PapaPoule Do we want a society where skin colour is unimportant ? Or do we want a society where skin colour is a defining element of a person ?

I don’t think we can get to an age where skin colour is unimportant without facing up to the fact it is still very important and dismantling those barriers/systemic issues that make it matter. Once that work is done (which is probably multi-generations away) we might be looking at a society where skin colour is unimportant.

I don't see MNHQ going for it. Are there any alternative parenting sites for black parents? I'm not suggesting they are not welcome here or we shouldn't have the topic requested, I am just interested to know.

3... 2...1 just counting down, until someone comes along to wail ‘what about....?’ In response to @lookatallthosechickens

It’s good idea, I hope it happens for you op.

@Nomnomarrgh I am an oriental person and don't mind the word. But do you actually realise it is regarded as the word you shouldn't use in western world?

@Nomnomarrgh

Yeah that’s great. Encourage more division between people. White users go here, black users go there, oriental over there. People who just feel they are human get told no, you have to label yourself.

Oriental you say.

@Itsjustabitofbanter

Seriously can’t understand why it’s only me thinking that the op is being racist as fuck.

What? Why?

I cannot see the difference between Scotsnet, Craicnet or LBGT, SN etc and a black or BAME section. I post about my DS's SN on the SN boards, but that doesn't stop me using all the other sections (that I'm interested in.) As other posters have said, we don't really need an Englishnet as the board is predominately English already.

Come on MNHQ, what's the difference between Scotsnet and a black and/or BAME section? People on Scotsnet can post if they are Scottish, live in Scotland, used to live in Scotland, have a Scottish partner etc, if they want to get a Scottish perspective on a subject, be it house buying, schools, Irn Bru or just nostalgia.

@MillicentMartha

I cannot see the difference between Scotsnet, Craicnet or LBGT, SN etc and a black or BAME section. I post about my DS's SN on the SN boards, but that doesn't stop me using all the other sections (that I'm interested in.) As other posters have said, we don't really need an Englishnet as the board is predominately English already.

Come on MNHQ, what's the difference between Scotsnet and a black and/or BAME section? People on Scotsnet can post if they are Scottish, live in Scotland, used to live in Scotland, have a Scottish partner etc, if they want to get a Scottish perspective on a subject, be it house buying, schools, Irn Bru or just nostalgia.

Black and BAME isn't the same. I think the OP wants a Black section.

Black people have been and continue to be killed over and over again while protesting politely

No they aren’t.

in fact they get killed and maimed even when they are NOT protesting - when they are going about their business, utterly compliant with all laws, not even 'asking politely' for anything

Even in the USA, it’s not true that white people are killing black people. Not at all.

Violence in the USA is largely intraracial.

It is not inflammatory to say so,just because you can't bear to face the truth

It is absolutely inflammatory to assert things that are just not true

Just adding my voice to say I think it's a fanfuckingtastic idea and I hope MNHQ can implement it.

I'm white but I still understand the importance of spaces for Black people where their voices and lived experience can take priority.

I think it's a great idea in principle.

I'm white so I admit I'm ignorant to most issues black people face, however I imagine it would be beneficial to have a safe space for discussion with less danger of someone like myself chiming in with something unhelpful.

TanteRose and ElizabethMainwaring, are you actually orientals yourself?

There was a thread while back, if the word oriental is appropriate or not. Many of whom they are orientals themselves said they don't mind it. But many who aren't were saying it's wrong. None of my oriental friends, who are actually quite educated takes no offence either. Why do people speak for us without us wanting you to is very weird.

’I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.’

Totally agree.

It would need the kind of moderation that the Feminism topic ended up with (it was like a red rag to MRAs and misogynists) because it will attract trolls who just post abuse and zero tolerance of ‘why is this racist, explain it to me’ fuckers.

Lots of the posts on here could be used to show why it’s needed.

Get the banhammer out MNHQ, loads of people showing exactly what they think of a black woman this morning.

PatricksRum I think this is a great idea. Lots of posters here would really benefit from reading Renni Eddo-Lodge's book 'Why I'm no longer speaking to white people about race'.
I'm white, thought I understood racism but this has really opened my eyes. If black mumsnetters would find a black section useful why does that bother some white posters so much?

Sorry, it should have said TanteRose and PicsInRed. I don't know where
ElizabethMainwaring come from. It's nothing to do with her.

Fuck me, I can't get over the lack of education on this.

I say create the board. It's somewhere black people don't have to put up with ridiculous white people expecting to have shit explained to them.

@ZombieFan

I imagine if MN was to go down this route, it would have to provide a section for all colours, ... religions, ... ethnicity's, ... races, ...political affiliation, ... gender, ... species & every other sub group of human categorisation?

Shouldn't MN would stay above identity politics?

Yes completely agree. If this was to be created then where is the line drawn??

I would love to see this idea take on reality.

@slipperywhensparticus

I have a couple of concerns

Does this not smack of segregation? "Black parenting" board as suggested above seems to suggest there are differences in parenting that only black/white parents do

Would it not just paint a big target on bame users? Because right now you can have any user name you want and you cant tell what colour you are but having a specific area would take that away

I agree that mumsnet can come across as racist people say stuff online that they wouod never say to someone's face and never should!

I agree x