ADs skipping to school - and that's only the parents

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Now they are advising people not yo hug or kiss your kids when they c9ne home from school!!😠😠
Back to stripping off on the doorstep dowsing them in bleach and burning thier clothes then? Feck the Ds are going to.have a field day with this.

Fuck that. I will be cuddling and kissing my DC as much as I damn well please.

Worked with my favourite ADs today. We all agreed masks in shops is performance but we're going along with it because we don't want to get shouted at.

Heard a bit of radio 4 & a debate about should women be allowed to have partners with them for ante natal appointments. I've felt very uneasy about the no support allowed at hospital appointments through covid, particularly where there is the potential for patients to be given devastating news.

Feel weird today. Quite calm on the one hand because DS has now managed 2 days at school & it feels normal. And then just feeling very not normal about it all. It's like I accept the situation as it is but I really don't like it & it feels relentless, & with the threat that the tiny freedoms we've won back could be taken away again just like that.

Someone said to me today, "2020 hasn't really happened." It's almost 3/4 through.

As for Leeds being on the "watch list", well there's an area in our county which has been on the watchlist for weeks. The outbreak there is in a food factory but no local lockdown has happened. I think they realise it's contained within the factory & they have reacted accordingly. I hope they react proportionately in Leeds.

There was a local councillor from Leeds blaming it on young people not SD. Well, that might be true, but if they are testing positive & self-isolating, & therefore limiting the spread, & not being ill enough to end up in hospital, surely that's not enough to impose a lockdown?

This article features two of the women interviewed on Woman’s Hour about their miscarriages, and there are more stories from other women. It’s just unbelievable. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-53613348

@Willow2017 brutality is the word. This isn’t 60 years ago, we’re not living in Ceausescu’s Romania and yet here we are. I can’t stop being angry about this.

Fucking inhumane

One of the things that worries me the most about all this is that all the hard won rights and freedoms for women, people with disabilities, children, mental health issues is all being swept aside and people are not batting an eyelid. Even worse they are not only accepting it they are embracing it with open arms.

WTAF is going on in this country where women and children and disabled people are thrown by the wayside in the rush to worship the great god covid?
I am ashamed of this country just now.

Humanity is at risk which scares me more than covid

AgentCooper
This article features two of the women interviewed on Woman’s Hour about their miscarriages, and there are more stories from other women. It's just unbelievable

Just read it. Truely awful. It's awful for the women, but also awful for those dads left sitting outside in the car parks. The babies were their babies too.

I have spent a big part of today trying to pick up the pieces for a disabled person who has no one to advocate for them. All the usual services that should be doing that work stopped in lockdown. There was no need for them to shut down completely. Now they are swamped with a backlog of work, & basic things aren't being done properly. It's very frustrating & demoralising.

My elderly FIL who was send home in the night from hospital is struggling now without the oxygen, hospital was totally rubbish only mentioning a UTI (which he seems to have picked up there) not the possible end stage condition he's in. His wife is not unsure what to do, have tried ringing their GP but they have no info from the hospital Such a mess and these are the ones we are supposed to be clapping for

We are still in local lockdown. Been about a month now. Said there was an announcement today. Rumour had it we would be free people once again..... Nope. Us labour ward dwellers are still under restrictions but you can now have your eyebrows done

The council announced this on a Friday night on their Facebook page. How profesh. Many, many angry commenters.

YY @justasking111 Other peoples attitudes are scaring me a lot more.

I'm sorry @TrustTheGeneGenie. At this point, I think lockdowns are just cruel and I wish I could help you escape.

A nearly blind 78-year-old woman who doesn't drive was told to take a 250 mile round trip for a Covid-19 test before an eye operation - she couldn't get to the test centre so couldn't have her operation, her neighbour told Nick Ferrari.

Brits with coronavirus symptoms are being forced to drive more than 100 miles to be tested after access to kits “dried up” in parts of the country.

Public health experts fear the lack of testing could lead to developing hotspots being missed.

Caller Gail from St Albans told Nick Ferrari that her 78-year-old neighbour who is nearly blind has to have a Covid-19 test before her cataract operation - however, her nearest centre will involve a 250 mile round trip.

Read more: Caller told to travel 341 miles for a Covid-19 test

"She has been told to go to Great Yarmouth, 125 miles away, she doesn't drive and lives on a pension so she can't afford to pay to have it done privately.

"So she stands the risk of not being able to have her operation," Gail said.

The caller told Nick that when the elderly lady questioned this, the NHS responded that "management will sort it".

"Management haven't managed to sort it out in time because she will have to quarantine after a test before her operation and so she now perhaps goes down the waiting list because she can't get her operation," Gail said.

Gail told Nick her poor neighbour was at her wit's end as she needs this crucial eye operation.

Just checking in and waving hello. Mumsnet is such a car crash at the moment - the aggression mostly. I'm not bothered by the differences of opinions even when people are quite vocal about expressing them because that's healthy and necessary, it's the hostility and sneeriness and judgement. Urgh.

That's awful about peoples' miscarriages. How barbaric. I'm so sorry to those in local lockdown too. I am getting to the gym a lot and am so mindful it could be taken away at some point. It feels like the loveliest freedom and my mental health is noticeably better on the days I get there. On my last visit there were small children having lessons or something in the pool and parents milling around watching them on the balcony and it was so lovely to see such a normal sight.

Our humanity in the caring professions is being damaged by da roolz. It must be hard for some of those in these roles. It is also I think showing up those for whom caring iwas just a mask that has slipped during this pandemic. Which leaves the rest of us bewildered and distressed at the unnecessary suffering being meted out.

Had a message from school with lots of happy smiling non masked faces of children and saying they are having to follow the 'onerous' restrictions but 'the option to wear a mask lies with the individual' and they are providing any mental health support needed...that is good I think and quite brave considering.

@Willow2017

Now they are advising people not yo hug or kiss your kids when they c9ne home from school!!😠😠 Back to stripping off on the doorstep dowsing them in bleach and burning thier clothes then? Feck the Ds are going to.have a field day with this.

No f**ing way

@RobinHobb

God but I'm sick of this. Why do people hate children? And why is our society's view of women with young children "just get on with it will you"? I wanted to treat Dd2 today and took her to a play cafe which she used to love. Their FB page said open but it was closed. Apparently the covid regulations are aimed at larger places for soft play and a little play cafe like that couldn't cope with the bs rules. It was raining so no playground. Finally I decided to go to a local shopping center near by that has little toy cars that you put coins in. It's egregious and a total waste of money but she loves it and we went there back in June to get school shoes and it was fine. Got there and they had removed them. Decided to walk down to the library. No toddler rhyme time etc. Have people lost their minds?! At bushy park playground they have removed every second swing for SD.... absolutely nuts as little tots clamber over slides next to each other. I know policy is made my old white men who have no children but what danger can little children on a play car pose? Good to get that off my chest Sorry for the rant

Exactly. This thread has given me the rage today.

Oh and the talk to little ones that they cannot see their grand parents now they are back at school because they will kill them. That has given me the rage today.

I'm sorry @Pixel77. Dare I mention phone 111 or out of hours number for GP? Or the ward he's been discharged from for advice?

Also read about people being sent ridiculous distances for covid tests. Read that "no one should have to go more than 75 miles" to get one. Well sorry, but 75miles is bloody ridiculous, bad enough if you have mild symptoms and possibly unsafe if you are feeling unwell. People won't bother getting tested if they have to go that far. Then there'll be people sitting at home for 2 weeks who potentially haven't got it but they daren't / aren't allowed to go back to school or work without a negative test result.

@justasking111
Our humanity in the caring professions is being damaged by da roolz. It must be hard for some of those in these roles

It is. It's heartbreaking. For me it's knowing that we can't provide those things that are seen by many as "extras" but are so vital, such as support groups for specific health conditions, because of the rules around social distancing. And when I flag it up as a real problem I'm met with sympathy but also with a shrug & comments like, "There's nothing we can do about it."

The lack of compassion & obsession with covid in some health & care departments leaves me gobsmacked. I have noticed throughout my years in healthcare though that sometimes, (not always) there is institutional compassion fatigue, & a tendancy for that to happen in times of stress where staff are unsupported. I'm not using that as an excuse, it's an observation. But it's unsurprising that it's happening now, alongside a system that already loves box-ticking & tries to cram patients & staff into one-size-fits-all processes.

Oh and the talk to little ones that they cannot see their grand parents now they are back at school because they will kill them.

Little kids take that sort of thing to heart. How anxious will those kids feel about meeting their grandparents when it's "allowed" again?

How screwed up is that, that you'd say that to your child?

Checking in to the new thread.
Both dc seem happy to be back at school and I had a lovely day at work with a trip to the gym for a swim and some shopping at lunchtime. Almost felt normal.

@Willow2017

One of the things that worries me the most about all this is that all the hard won rights and freedoms for women, people with disabilities, children, mental health issues is all being swept aside and people are not batting an eyelid. Even worse they are not only accepting it they are embracing it with open arms. WTAF is going on in this country where women and children and disabled people are thrown by the wayside in the rush to worship the great god covid? I am ashamed of this country just now.

^^this

Its disgraceful the way those poor women having miscarriages were treated, and absolutely ridiculous that people in this situation, or actually any kind of medical situation, can’t have someone to support them!
The world has gone mad.

I will hugging my kids as much as I fucking like and plan on taking them to see their grandparents - who they haven’t seen for over a year - soon.

@TheOrchidKiller

Oh and the talk to little ones that they cannot see their grand parents now they are back at school because they will kill them.

Little kids take that sort of thing to heart. How anxious will those kids feel about meeting their grandparents when it's "allowed" again?

How screwed up is that, that you'd say that to your child?

Or when the grandparent inevitably does die of something, probably not Covid, is anyone going to explain to these kids that it was not their fault. Bearing in mind how many kids feel responsible for their parents splitting up, how is that going to work.