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At least now we know what they were ramping up the fear to introduce- hopefully now if we follow the usual pattern we will be allowed some positivity in a “look, what we did is working” stunt for a week or so. Seems to be how they do it - work with the media to ramp up the gloom before they announce something negative to be implemented- we are being played appallingly.

I think there’ll be the push to force unis online completely as the next step. My gut instinct is that is what they are angling for.

Dreading another term of zoom Cubs meetings though

'If you live in Bolton it is illegal to socialise outside your own household in any setting, even outdoors'. I have just read that on the BBC website. I suppose this may well apply to some other areas. Doesn't this strike you as inhuman if you are a person living alone?
It must be awful to suffer from 'long covid', and we do know 2 people who had it in March and are still suffering. But by the same account, it is pretty awful to suffer from any illness that hangs on and on, and I am pretty sure there are more people suffering from the effects of cancer or heart disease. In fact, I have got rather annoyed about the cooing over continued covid illness. I have mentioned it here before, but I was due to see a cardiologist in March. I eventually managed to get dignosis and treatment( of a heart disorder) in the last couple of months - by paying for it. There was nothing available on the NHS for 18 months. They couldn't give a shit if I dropped dead from heart failure - only covid. Mind you, I am also in a filthy mood because I am in the fourth week of agonising shingles!
I honestly think that, eventually, covid will have to be lived with (especially as it looks like the Oxford vaccine has a problem) and people/the entire population will just have to take their chances. Fair enough, if you are vulnerable, you may have to make the choice (your own choice, not the government's) to shield, but, I really can't see how the total destruction of the worldwide economy justifies ever increasing restrictions on daily life. Honestly, if I look ahead, I can see such massive unemployment, homelessness, shortages and possibly even civil unrest if the current situation goes on for too long.

Oh, sorry, just realised that was a bit of a long one. Too much time on my hands!

I'm going to rant on here, as if I start on the family WhatsApp group I'm going to say something I will regret.
My kids (all grown up mind you) really upset me on the weekend, all 3 of them. I've had long conversations with one of them and I know she's told the others the reason why, and how upset I am. They've properly stuffed up and they've made me cry and I never cry. The least I would hope is that the 2 I've not spoken to would have messaged to see how I am and apologized. Not a fucking word. Not. A. Fucking. Word.
Yes perhaps I should be the bigger person and contact them but you know what? No, not this time.

I've been reviewing my life over lockdown and I've been contacting shielding people, talking to friends who've had to home school their kids and wfh, getting stuff for people in quarantine and how many people have contacted me to see how I am? Hardly any.
I'm generally a nice person (I think) and I try and be as nice as possible, and try and be a better mother to my kids than my mother was to me ( no abuse or anything like that, just I wasn't the favourite, that was made abundantly clear when she died). I'm just so pissed off being the capable one who's just getting on with stuff.
I can soooo understand why people one day just up and leave, God knows I feel like that today but there's nowhere to go. My dh is lovely, he's upset about the kids and how much they have upset me but as he's their step dad I don't think he'll step in and say something to them. I'd like him to but again, that'd be me arranging something again and I'm so fucked off with being the one to have to make suggestions. Why me all the time, can't someone else think for a change. He gets on very well with the kids btw, but he's really cross.
The possibility of another lockdown is pissing me off, I'll still be working and dealing with shitty customers who should get banned but don't. Got to wear a stupid mask that's pointless. Got to wear gloves that are too small as they don't have the right size ( well, they didn't but hopefully they will now after I moaned about it.) Again, why me doing something, pull your fucking finger out, management! I've got big hands, medium gloves aren't much good if i keep splitting them. Fuck sake.
Listening to Matt Hancock this morning and someone asked about grandparents looking after kids, no clear answer. Mind you, after the upset this weekend I feel like saying fuck it, I'm not good enough for you to keep informed of things so I'm not good enough to look after your kids. That is the thing I'm sitting on my hands about, as I could be cutting my nose off to spite my face but bugger it's tempting. I don't want to get into the "after all I've done for you" with all the kids but again, bugger it's tempting. I'm just so pissed off, I've got work later and I'm just not feeling it. Got housework to do first but not feeling that either. But if I don't do either ( and I'm tempted to ring work and say I'm not going in) I'll just be sat here stewing over things and getting more upset.
On holiday next week, no joy in looking forward to a week of not doing anything, I don't like pubs, don't want to go out, don't want to stay in, don't want to do anything.
I hate everything today.

to everyone this morning.

It's the loss of having things to look forward to that's so horrible.

I'm fed up with the attitude that this is hard but you've just got to do it. It is about so much more than parties & holidays being cancelled, it's about mental health, livelihoods, education etc etc.

I'm sure long covid is very unpleasant. So is cancer, CFS, stroke, MND etc etc, & any disease which has long-term effects. All of the support groups for those conditions are off for now (unless you have the technology & the ability to meet via sodding zoom, which is a poor substitute).

I'm going to do cathartic cleaning today.

No helpful words of advice but I hear you.

So my understanding (from Wanksock's comments quoted on the BBC news website) is that families of six or more have an exemption. So families of four can see both grandparents at once, and families of six can see both at once, but families of five can only see one. Have I got that right? Really? And no distinction between meeting outdoors & indoors, despite the massive difference in transmission risk? I don't claim to have a wild social life myself, but its been really good to just meet up a bit as two households with other families sometimes.

Is it too much to ask that our two children can see their two cousins?

Forget murdering grannies, this feels like a long list of stealing candy from a baby.

Twice on the school run, I was asked how I am. I politely gurned; I didn't trust myself to use words.

Need to psych myself up for a run. It'd a good day to run for two hours. I just need to get into gear first.

No body bans going for a country walk in case you get Lyme Disease which is pretty comparable to Long Covid.

FGS the BBC have referred to the new rule as "The Safe Six"

1. Sounds like an Enid Blyton story
2. "Safe" depends on what the 6 are doing when they meet. If they're having a BBQ & it catches fire & two of them burn themselves, one of them chokes on a chicken drumstick, one of them runs to call for help but trips & breaks a leg, another gets e coli from the potato salad and the last one gets bitten by the dog & needs to flock to A&E, is it still safe? Probably, as no one gets covid.
3. The Safe Six- you only need one typo to cause mass confusion about wearing condoms.

I'm fed up of pissy little slogans and being spoken to like a fucking child. Fuck of with your Safe Six. Fuck off to the far side of fuck and then fuck off some more. Fucking bastard wankers.

The only way I can come with this right now is to pretend it’s not happening. I was going to poke the dementors today but there is no joy in it.

I just read a post that said either the conspiracy theorists are right or our governments are inept, or both. That about sums it up.

Anyway, we were told by an MP speaking in the House of Commons that it’s okay to break the law as long as it’s in a specific and limited way so fuck them all.

Agreed.

Totally lost it on the way to nursery drop off and almost pulled across into the path of an oncoming lorry, just stopped myself because the kids were in the car. I would never have even contemplated it if we weren't in this situation
My husband's response was 'well you're not allowed to drive then'
I'm a terrible mother to even contemplate it

@Vintagelovingmum

Totally lost it on the way to nursery drop off and almost pulled across into the path of an oncoming lorry, just stopped myself because the kids were in the car. I would never have even contemplated it if we weren't in this situation My husband's response was 'well you're not allowed to drive then' I'm a terrible mother to even contemplate it

You are not a terrible mother. You are a human being at breaking point.

I spent about six months fantasising about crashing my car, everyday, before I broke down completely. Get in touch with your gp (somehow) because you need antidepressants. And your DH needs to step up.

@TheOrchidKiller

FGS the BBC have referred to the new rule as "The Safe Six"

1. Sounds like an Enid Blyton story
2. "Safe" depends on what the 6 are doing when they meet. If they're having a BBQ & it catches fire & two of them burn themselves, one of them chokes on a chicken drumstick, one of them runs to call for help but trips & breaks a leg, another gets e coli from the potato salad and the last one gets bitten by the dog & needs to flock to A&E, is it still safe? Probably, as no one gets covid.
3. The Safe Six- you only need one typo to cause mass confusion about wearing condoms.

Oh don't that will make me miss group camping although admittedly I haven't done that for years due to DCs complicating matters

I'm getting flashbacks to the one where my friend rocked up with half a pheasant attached to the grill of his car, and then went on to direct us to a different, similarly named village then there was no phone signal to get in touch to sort out the error.

Then there was one when we were benighted in an emergency shelter in a storm. No social distancing, we were snuggling for body warmth! Got back to the shredded remnants of our tent mid-morning, and everything was drenched. Friend and I stopped at motorway services on the way home in damp, stinking clothes and barefoot because we couldn't face putting our trench foot boots back on. The looks we got from people wondering how the hell we were halfway up a motorway in that state
Some years later that night resulted in a marriage and now children. I'm good at matchmaking

Half the camping trips we went on, no wonder I'm not in terror of a virus!

"Oh and stay off the dementor threads they are having a field day tonight with the news."

Ain't that the truth? I've just seen Prof Sikora described as a charlatan. That'll come as a surprise to the thousands whose cancer he's treated. Some people have clearly lost it.

"Those of us who get our kicks from things like knit & knatter classes, choirs & coffee mornings don't matter."

@TheOrchidKiller, you've just brought a tear to my eye. My life was a little one, but a contented one, filled with human contact and gentle, but supportive chat. All gone.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

I'm fed up of pissy little slogans and being spoken to like a fucking child. Fuck of with your Safe Six. Fuck off to the far side of fuck and then fuck off some more. Fucking bastard wankers.

This. All of this

@Vintagelovingmum

Totally lost it on the way to nursery drop off and almost pulled across into the path of an oncoming lorry, just stopped myself because the kids were in the car. I would never have even contemplated it if we weren't in this situation My husband's response was 'well you're not allowed to drive then' I'm a terrible mother to even contemplate it

This is not a healthy reaction and you need help and support, but it's not an unusual instinct in the face of ongoing stress. It does not make you a bad person, just one at the edge of their threshold trying to find an escape route from the situation.

And the situation is horrible because we can't control it by resigning, or going on holiday or a boost by seeing friends, doing a hobby, or popping into a shop for a treat. Which makes it even more of a slog.

We are here and listening. Your GP can help too

“Politely gurned” might just become my default facial setting.

This is all utter bollocks. I thought over the last month we were seeing a creep back to normality. But this? Batten down the fucking hatches again.

Some of us might die. Might be you, might be me - might be a wee granny who’s been a cunt since 1931.

Wtf is going to happen when swathes of families simply run out of cash?

This is all absolutely fucking absurd.

Thank you all so much, today was breaking point I think, my poor dd1 picked up on it when I dropped her off and I've just cleared my head slightly and I've realised I'm angry, so so angry. From boris throwing his girlfriend a baby shower just before when he knew the country was going to be locked down meaning I lost out on mine for my last baby. None of our groups locally are back on which means days when dh is at work (until he gets made redundant) and dd1 is at nursery I'm stuck with nothing to do and nobody to talk to. I'm angry I can't do more to rebel against the rules and I can't tell boris to his face to eff off. I'm angry I can't plan anything because I never know if next month will be the month we're 20 quid short on our mortgage because we ate out for lunch once in 6 months. These all seem like such petty things and I just want to be able to meet other new mums and have a laugh and a cup of tea and have some other interaction that isn't with my children. I want to have the support I had first time round and I dont understand why more people aren't kicking off about it all, from people who have had to have operations cancelled whilst hospitals lay empty and people who have lost their jobs because one minute it was stay home to the big push of everybody going back out to offices. I feel the government need to be held to account for all their actions because if not now when?

Done the housework, still pissed off, tried ringing best friend, forgot she's at work, sister's not in, phoned my best overseas friend, she's ringing me back soon so I can moan internationally. Still fricking pissed off

Fucking SLOGANS.

Safe Six.
Don't kill granny.
Hands Face Space.
Squeeeeeeeeeze the brakes.
New Normal.
Stay home, protect the NHS.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can see why Saint Boris and his merry men targeted family gatherings instead of the public pisshouses (which was hinted at earlier) - no money for the taxman in family gatherings.

I also see on the BBC website "hope to turn it around by Christmas". When did we hear turn it around before? Oh, I know. "We can turn this virus around in twelve weeks", back in March. Fucking liar, and he knew it at the time.

And you know what's going to happen this weekend? Party party party.

We so want to fight back against all this, but it's so difficult. I am doing so by hardly visiting shops or anywhere I have to don a face nappy, driving instead of using public transport, and taking a small pleasure in breaking other little roolz which are not on the public's mind at the moment (but I won't say what they are). This whole thing has deeply eroded any respect for government I ever had. Mind you, I've had no faith in government since the day Tony Bliar was elected.

@Vintagelovingmum you're not a terrible person. I've heard it's common to have those thoughts in times of extreme stress. I went through similar when I had PND. Would never have acted on them. My counsellor suggested the thoughts were a reaction to the situation & a desire for release from it.
Please contact your GP.

@amicissimma Sorry if that upset you. It is definitely the little things that matter.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

I'm fed up of pissy little slogans and being spoken to like a fucking child. Fuck of with your Safe Six. Fuck off to the far side of fuck and then fuck off some more. Fucking bastard wankers.

This ... with knobs on