ADs skipping to school - and that's only the parents

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My parents were pretty selfish. Mum 95%, Dad, more self centred than selfish I guess.

Despite this they would have been gobsmacked at the situation. By now Mum would be 100% sure we should be saving her, apart from breaking the rules to visit her.
Dad would be - and was to be fair without Covid - I've lived, I'm bored, I don't want to be here anymore, (but I want to be dead, I don't want to have to die to get there)

Unfortunately, some grannies have been terrified into not visiting their grandchildren (DM). Or their adult children. Just as they're thinking they might be up for it, it all seems to be going tits up round our way.

Anyway, I'm signing off for today. Trying to spend less time on my phone. Goodnight all!

Local secondary school here has 5 cases, 1 student, 4 teachers. Whole school year has been sent home.

Well killing granny has given me the rage. I said on another thread a while ago that if granny wanted to see grand children she should. Was told that my grand child might have a conscience so would not see me. ggggrrr.

Oh poor old Caerphilly in lock down, mutterings it is the young uns, selfish little barstewards. That gives me the rage when they lump one group together to blame. Maybe try the old sots in the pubs from opening time to closing time. gggrrrrr... My DS had a brief stint in a weatherspoons, breakfast with a beer was very popular.

If I had any sort of belief in a sentient higher being I may think this was a way of pointing out that there is a bloody good reason for 'survival of the fittest'. I am not in any way saying we shouldn't take care of the vulnerable. We really need to - vulnerable people are every bit as valuable as everyone else.
But throwing kids under the bus to enable the healthy older middle age and healthy more elderly people to carry on with their leisure activities is just counterproductive. When today's teenagers are the ruling classes, how are they going to view the, by then, elderly people who did this to them. Thank Fuck I won't be here then.

No worries about Granddads here, most of them never made it within decades of Covid! Much more of a messy relation to try to remember who's who and how they're related to me and the biological connections (or not) involved

How society treats the most vulnerable is vital, but quality of life is more important than sheer length of existance for the sake of it. Isolation is harmful in itself.

We might not be seeing much of grannies, but they are seeing more local family frequently, and one has been heading out with her friends for meals which is good to hear.

Today's bbc headline
"Corona virus cases rising exponentially now, scientists warn"
Gah I'm so sick of it all.

But like a pp said it's only a matter of time. Dd has started nursery finally (she's turning 3) and there is a cold circulating, and no tests available anywhere remotely close to us so I guess she's off school for 10 days now. And also dd1 who has just started reception. So I'll be back in lockdown soon enough.

I am sick of this govt incompetence. Could they have not foreseen that a rise in demand in tests would come with school?

I'm not in a good place today

A total lack of joined-up thinking @RobinHobb. I was astounded by the lack of competence in care homes and asked why nobody (who worked in the homes themselves) considered infection control rather than waiting for government mandate.

The knowledgeable people here put me right. Apparently a lot of people are promoted above their ability...

Its so nice to see kids back at school.
DS had his first post lockdown swimming lesson last night, and while having to get him there was a logistical pain in the arse for me, I was determined he would go, because at least for him, his life now seems fairly normal.

Something that I'm finding quite interesting is the amount of parents on my social media and I suppose on SM in general whose children have been at home and not mixing with anyone for the last 6 ish months, that are now sick after a few days at school.
They are absolutely stunned as to how this happened. For example I saw one post "My son has only been in school for 4 days and already catch runny nose and sore throat! So if everything was disinfected he should not catch anything!
6 months of being at home didn’t have even runny nose once. 🤷🏼‍♀️"
How do people not realise that staying shut off from others in a house you are probably disinfecting constantly for such a long period will probably have compromised your immunity. So the first time you're exposed to any kind of bug...boom! You'll get sick.

FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL TODAY!!

@LivinLaVidaLoki completely agree. I know that my DC and I will have quite a lot of bugs going on in this next 6 months as we are all at different schools, but think it will benefit our immune systems more to be mingling, than not.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito do you have plans involving lying on the couch in your pants playing candy crush with the curtains closed?

Our immune systems are complicated and amazing. Unfortunately modern living, obesity and poor diet give our immune systems an increased workload. Google Professor Lazarus, he has done research into how to keep your immune system as good as a fit 20 something well into your eighth decade.

Also sick of the dementors. Going on about cases. If young people get Covid then they are adding to herd immunity. We develop herd immunity to all the other coronavirus and rhinovirus circulating. This one will be no different.

Day 3 of back to school and DS1 (13) has a temperature (not tested but feels hot), feels sick and is off his food. A year ago, I would have dosed him up and sent him in anyway. Going to keep him at home (or rather leave him at home as I'm going to work). DP is telling me not to mention the fever when I ring up.

First day back at school here too. They were up and in their uniforms by 7.30am, both very excited about going back. They have even packed their own bags.

I give it a couple of days before they are lying on the sofa in their pants, whinging about being asked to have breakfast.

I am however dreading the inevitable requirement to self isolate for two weeks at some point. My mental health is so much better for getting back into the office.

@MagdaS
My mental health is so much better for getting back into the office

Mine too. I am only physically there 3 days a week, but I find that teh commute to and from work in my little car creates a barrier between "home" and "work" in what is a very stressful job. I found that when I was at home all the time, I didnt have that barrier and so found that I was starting to feel as if I was constantly stressed.

I completely understand that.

[quote InsaneInTheViralMembrane]@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito do you have plans involving lying on the couch in your pants playing candy crush with the curtains closed?[/quote]
Not far off the mark!

Mostly my plans involve getting dd2 to have a nap so that I can have a nap - she woke up at 4.30 this morning and didn't go back to sleep, and I am knackered!

Routine is good for mental health. Going swimming today when DCs at school.

Off to England today Cheshire Oaks. I have a cold so will probably make a few folk nervous. But it's my birthday so I'll sneeze if I want to hee hee

Happy Birthday @justasking111!!

And good luck to all with first days!

Happy birthday justasking

Going to have a break from my phone today also, might be good. This seemed to be relatively sensible www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54064339

Good luck to everyone with offspring returning to school - fingers crossed for you all that you get a good few weeks without any closures/enforced isolation for a sniffle/over reactions to said sniffles. Round here I have been shocked at the number of primary schools already reporting 'cases' and closing classes/year groups/whole schools!

Had a disagreement with my Dad (75) yesterday - hes ridiculously fit and healthy but has been totally dementorish about Covid. He's had give up his life (he still worked and travelled internationally for it, was school governor and had a personal trainer who he saw every week) to be carer for mum since her stroke in Feb and i get why he feels they need to be safe and isolated. BUT he insists that young people should stop meeting up and trying to get back to normal in order to protect their grandparents!! Sorry Dad but for teens/20s socialising is essential. You've had your soulmate by your side for 55 years - kids of that age need to find theirs! And its especially not fair to criticise them when you condone your (still invalid) wife sitting next to her daughter and other daughters grandchildren (4 and 2) for hours on end! Of course I didn't say that to him as he wouldn't have listened anyway as he is always right (!) but it sums up a lot of people's thinking I feel.

@justasking111 Happy Birthday!!!! And Happy Sneezing

From that BBC link:

Much has been made of the fact these are the groups going out socialising, although it is also noticeable that the highest rates are spread across much of the working age population - many of whom will have to leave their home to make a living.

Though I agree with Blobby10 point as well - I met, like quite a few friends DH at university, but we weren't living togther till late 20s mainly as we were in different cities due to jobs./carrers. So they are an age group less likely to be settled.

My IL retired are actually doing more soliaising than us - they were also slower to stop and quicker to start back up but then I've noticed quiet a few people saying older family members- like my own parents- who stopped everything have aged very badly physically and mentally.