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ADs skipping to school - and that's only the parents

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RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 03/09/2020 09:58

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BogRollBOGOF · 07/09/2020 14:40

No danger of my two killing Granny, she's in another country and they haven't seen her since last October and no plans at least this side of Easter. I'm definitely not in the "don't see Granny" or "no hugging Granny" camp, it's just that in our particular circumstances, there is a risk of travel and stayinģ over (and the sheer logistics).
They got a rare visit with Grandma when we were on holiday, but she's only in her 50s Grin
Both Great Grandmas are younger than Granny due to the differences in mine and DH's family structures... in fact next year, DH and his MiL will both be in their 50s together, after we spend our 6 months per decade in our 40s Grin

Swimming stuff is sorted other than needing to sort out their tea. I suppose I'm a bit hung up on it because as well as being faffy, the weekly outing for swimming lessons has been a feature of life for over 9 years. We started there when DS1 was 5m before I even moved to this house.

justasking111 · 07/09/2020 15:10

Getting cross with stories of welsh schools teachers/staff testing positive ffs they had only been back a couple of days why insinuate the kids caused it.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 07/09/2020 15:26

DS started in Y7 on Friday and it went well, but we've hit a glitch on day 2... the plan was that he'd walk to the bus stop with his friend (that's what happened on Friday, they were nervous but it was fine), but then yesterday his friend's extremely dementory mum announced that they've decided to walk instead because she's not happy about crowding on the (school) bus. FFS it's an hour's walk up a steep hill, and the bus isn't even full!

I know it's easy to say but might well be for best if he ends up walking by self or with others. With DD1 - now Y11 - we had similar arrangement for walking and it was nothing but trouble and stress for her.

I was worried with DD2 as she started back ealier than her older siblings but in end now walking to and fro by herself is nothing to her.

It's the first day they've all been back - I now think DH was the biggest distraction all along.

They're all in bubbles younger two class of 30 older one Y11 entire -year which makes sense becuse how else can you do options - but recent e-mails from school say if anyone gets a postive test entire year will need to be off 14 days.

Apparently they allow them to mix in breaks - I expect they'll also do assemblies again as they still did them two days before all schools closed. Does make me wonder what the point of the bubbles is as mixing is still happening.

we are in Wales as well and only just got back so it must be wider community spread rather than schools if they're picking up Covid already.

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Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 17:16

Oh blimey. On about the end of civilisation, and that T cells can turn around and get you (or something). I must stop reading the catastrophising on MN (although it is quite funny in it's drama at times)

They are also on about doing a NZ style lockdown on Manchester. OK.

justasking111 · 07/09/2020 17:26

Just picked DS up from train station. Train packed coming back from Chester change. Hardly anyone wearing masks on train today. He did and chose to stand in the corridor by the doors so he could sit on his bag. He said in Yorkshire shopping etc. people wearing masks the maskless ones stood out, yet on trains people do not. He understands the exempt people but said that he did not believe all of them were in that category.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 18:14

www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/italy-face-mask-rules/

Thought you lot might like this, about madness of mark role in Italy.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 18:15

mask rules, sorry!

Littlebelina · 07/09/2020 18:55

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

I just had a little read of a thread in the Corona topic (Think it's against the rules to link or name specifically but it's along the lines of - Cases are going up and up!! We must shut schools!). Didn't post as don't want it cluttering up my Threads I'm On but my word, the balance has shifted. So many AD like responses - and it's not from names I see on here. Lots of mention of increased number of tests, tiny number of deaths, small number of hospital admissions, the fact that actually kids have a right to an education!

Unexpected but good to see.

The usual suspects have arrived to turn it batshit now! Although agree there are more positive people on there
TheOrchidKiller · 07/09/2020 19:21

The national doom-o-meter is dreadful at the moment.

Heard Dr. Sarah Jarvis on Jeremy Vine today. She said she went through the motions of booking a covid test because her patients were saying they couldn't get one, so she thought she'd investigate. She's in London & the nearest site she was offered was in Wales. It's crackers.

I'm feeling like I'm walking on a tightrope, & it's a race against the clock to get things like the food shop done before T&T get in touch, or one of us gets a cold. Several people at work are self-isolating now. I feel like I'm only just moving forwards but it could all go backwards tomorrow.

Hope everyone got to & from school safely. Remember the politics of who was going to walk with who at the start of year 7. It all changed after a couple of weeks.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 19:27

It always ramps up with a rise of cases and changes doesn't it, the dementoring. The stuff from Matt Hancock today seems like the fear things again, to make people behave and put the blame back on the public.

Doesn't seem long since they were going on about how low risk children are to get them back to school. Or moralising at teachers. I'm getting fed up of it.

BogRollBOGOF · 07/09/2020 19:31

@Pixel77

www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/italy-face-mask-rules/

Thought you lot might like this, about madness of mark role in Italy.

Darn it, the paywall cuts in.

Swimming is suggesting covering up while sitting in the socially distanced spectating area. Ok moving around the changing/ corridors. Swimming is the optimum environment to trigger my exemption with the noise and humidity.

The DCs were happy to be back though!
4/ 12 in DS2's group tonight. 7/ 12 in DS1's. It went very quiet the last time we were there on 16th March. The first light evening that we've had there this year! There won't be many of those, probably about 5 or 6 weeks.

TheOrchidKiller · 07/09/2020 19:48

Matt Hancock has upset me with "Don't kill granny."

It's a horrible phrase. I'm all for being careful in the same way that if we had a stinking cold we'd probably not visit. I don't believe that the phrase will have much impact on young adults really- you might love your grandparents but if you're living away from home & unlikely to see them for a few months it isn't going to stop you going to the pub with your mates.

My "granny" died a few years ago in her 90s, pretty much fully-functioning. She would have hated all this. She hated having to stop in when it snowed, & was still doing the shopping for her less able 80-something friends.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 19:52

I agree, it's nasty. I saw a granny herself commenting on the BBC page, that she had been through Asian flu and Spanish flu, and to Just Leave Us Alone and not give that message to her grandchildren.

Just wondering something. Being reported about some school cases nationwide, but seems a bit inconsistent, in some cases it says the DC within 2m of the one case had to isolate, in others the class / bubble, others the staff only. All a bit odd.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 19:55

Darn it, the paywall cuts in

Basically about a stay in Italy and the mask madness, wearing them outside but only between 8pm and 8am or something - and taking them off to shout loudly in restaurants, that sort of thing.

Italians are playing it safe. Masks are worn by the vast majority, indoors and out, and not just in the evenings, but also during the daytime. Even when it’s sunny and 30C. Even when social distancing is eminently possible. In short, it’s a very masky place. More akin, in my mind, to a vast open-air hospital than a truly relaxing holiday destination.

"...But it was the bizarre little subplots to this overarching tableau that really engrossed me. Take the rules for restaurants. Until mask devotees invent a new method (suggestions on a postcard), eating will continue to require a significant degree of facial freedom. Therefore, naturally, masks may be dispensed with at the dinner table. Italians love their food, and they love talking loudly, and every restaurant we visited was packed to the rafters with happy people scoffing spaghetti, bellowing across the table, flirting outrageously, and laughing merrily. Gather 100 Italians in a restaurant and you’ll soon have respiratory particles everywhere.

So what meaningful purpose does it serve to put a mask on, as you must, to pop to the loo, to be shown to your table, or to leave the establishment? It makes as much sense as a peeing section in a swimming pool. The rule applies to restaurants with outdoor seating too. I watched countless people arrive maskless, greet the waiter maskless, don their mask for the three-metre walk to their table on the terrace, and then remove their mask to spend two hours in close proximity to other diners. What’s the bleeding point?..."

justasking111 · 07/09/2020 20:13

Italy is a mad place. Their figures look better than Spain and France ironically.

OH was told to F off this morning he was queuing outside the bakery everyone in a nice line when a face appeared over his shoulder which made him jump. A random stranger was trying to see what was on sale in the shop window. OH said please step back social distancing the guy ignored him so he repeated it. That was when he was told to go forth and multiply.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 20:57

Why is it granny anyway, granddads are more likely to get ill...

Some of the stuff from Aus is scary. The arrests for protests including a mother who had posted on FB about one. She got arrested in front of her children. www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/sep/02/three-men-arrested-ahead-of-planned-anti-lockdown-protest-in-victoria

TheOrchidKiller · 07/09/2020 20:58

DM has had their washable masks soaking in a bowl of disinfectant prior to washing at 60. I pointed out that the govt guidance says they can be washed with your normal washing, so on a lower setting. And no need to soak them first! It's not like if you sneeze into your elbow in Tesco you're going to take off your cashmere cardigan, soak it & wash it at 60, just in case.

@justasking111 your poor DH. There's no need for people to be so unpleasant.

5 days since I sent off my weekly covid test for research (I have no symptoms), no results yet. I'm not chasing it up, day after tomorrow it will be time to do another one anyway.
Surely Hancock needs to resign soon & let someone else have a crack at getting a better system? (I can but hope).

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 07/09/2020 21:09

Good point about grandfathers. Obviously not heart string pulling enough. If I were a grandfather I would be mightily pissed off.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 21:19

Lots of positive stories of grannies getting through it on here. One was 103...

WouldBeGood · 07/09/2020 21:20

I saw a very old couple walking along the street today with the man holding the hand of a very small murderous disease vector. It was so nice to see 😊

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 21:20

and some granddads too. Prince Charles for one!

TheOrchidKiller · 07/09/2020 21:30

I have to say that Grandads are ace too. I had 3 at one point!

Starting to feel like I can't plan anything ahead again. Hoping to finally see family later this month but I daren't imagine it happening because the chances of at least one of us getting trapped at home & everything being cancelled seems inevitable.

Trying not to get dragged down by it, & to think of distracting activities. We can't live like this, surely?

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 07/09/2020 21:30

@TheOrchidKiller

Matt Hancock has upset me with "Don't kill granny."

It's a horrible phrase. I'm all for being careful in the same way that if we had a stinking cold we'd probably not visit. I don't believe that the phrase will have much impact on young adults really- you might love your grandparents but if you're living away from home & unlikely to see them for a few months it isn't going to stop you going to the pub with your mates.

My "granny" died a few years ago in her 90s, pretty much fully-functioning. She would have hated all this. She hated having to stop in when it snowed, & was still doing the shopping for her less able 80-something friends.

Any Granny/Grandad with a bit of spunk will say they will die miserable on their own or die happy with their family

And would choose dying sooner over existing longer.

And certainly wouldn't expect their family, especially the younger ones, to stop living to keep them existing.

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 07/09/2020 21:35

Had a family day out a couple of days ago. My dad spent a load of time holding hands with my toddler. And he's currently waiting to hear if he needs chemo. Grandads rule.

Pixel77 · 07/09/2020 21:38

We saw Grandad at the weekend, DCs too, he is ill with end stage lung disease so not really that worried about covid. He was just happy to see them.