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Nephew should be quarantining but isn't

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TheOrigBrave · 26/08/2020 12:27

Teenager living at home. Just came back from a country where he is required to quarantine on her return.

I can see from my activity tracking app that he is out running.

I don't know if my sister (his Mum) knows and even if she did if there is much she can do, bar locking him in her room or chucking him out.

Do I have some sort of duty to say something or shall I just keep out of it?

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SoManyActivities · 26/08/2020 21:38

And then we wonder why so many medics think a second wave is unavoidable

A second wave isnt going to come about because someone who went to France went for a couple of runs on their return to the UK. It just isnt.

I know of people who have come back from Spain and not quarantined at all. Now that is twattery.

SquirmOfEels · 26/08/2020 21:38

This Evening Standard article shows that people really are importing it. Even from Greek islands with not many cases (and at present no quarantine requirement)

"Up to 30 teenagers in Plymouth may have coronavirus after they holidayed on the Greek island of Zante, the city council has said.
At least 11 members of the group of 18 and 19-year-olds have already tested positive for Covid-19, officials said, as they warned residents to take precautions.
Some of the teenagers have since gone on a night out in the Devon city's bars and restaurants, sparking fears of a wider outbreak"

Places on the quarantine list have higher rates than Greece. Being cavalier about quarantine is a sure fire way to stoke a second peak

MoggyP · 26/08/2020 21:40

@SoManyActivities

And then we wonder why so many medics think a second wave is unavoidable

A second wave isnt going to come about because someone who went to France went for a couple of runs on their return to the UK. It just isnt.

I know of people who have come back from Spain and not quarantined at all. Now that is twattery.

I meant the overall mindset that breaking the quarantine rules is OK

Cummings has so much to answer for. And so many fans emulating him

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SoManyActivities · 26/08/2020 21:43

To be fair, a second wave is unavoidable without a vaccine, unless we lockdown indefinitely.

LouiseNW · 26/08/2020 21:46

philcornwall1

“Just like 100s of others.“

All of whom are equally dense and inconsiderate.

DuckonaBike · 26/08/2020 21:54

I know it’s highly unlikely I have the virus, and highly unlikely I’d spread it by going for a run if I did. But that’s not how risk works. There are hundreds of thousands of people who went to countries from which we are now required to quarantine. Individually, most of us are low risk. Put them all together and it adds up. That is why we are all supposed to follow the rules, not make our own self centred risk assessments.

PhilCornwall1 · 26/08/2020 22:14

@BogRollBOGOF

I think it's already been proven that going for a run has failed to cause a second wave, (even if out for 61+ minutes) and that runners really haven't been out breathing Covid all over people. A solo run, outdoors is very low risk, and he is still low risk fir carrying the infection in the first place.

Breaking quarantine by doing a solo, healthy, low risk activity is very different to going out to crowded indoor places, particularly such as pubs if alcohol and reduced inhibitions are involved.

A few thousand idiots on a protest didn't cause a second wave either, much to the disgust of the "second wavers" and there are a few on here.
InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 26/08/2020 22:25

A few thousand idiots on a protest didn't cause a second wave either, much to the disgust of the "second wavers" and there are a few on here.

Or went to the beach, or celebrated VE day, or went back to school (Scotland is on its 3rd week).

PhilCornwall1 · 26/08/2020 22:31

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia

A few thousand idiots on a protest didn't cause a second wave either, much to the disgust of the "second wavers" and there are a few on here.

Or went to the beach, or celebrated VE day, or went back to school (Scotland is on its 3rd week).

Yep and that too.
Treesofwood · 26/08/2020 22:36

He must be punished.

FancyMinion · 27/08/2020 01:49

It’s the mindset that is the problem. If it is okay to break the rules as you think it’s a low risk activity (or you don’t ‘feel’ ill) and you can justify an exception, then why do we even bother to have a 14 day quarantine period?

Going out in public after returning from abroad is very different to going out in public for VE Day celebrations, BLM event or a pub visit. The risk you may be infectious is higher if you have been abroad and go out compared to if you have been staying here and go out.

QuentinInQuarantino · 27/08/2020 07:25

@FancyMinion

It’s the mindset that is the problem. If it is okay to break the rules as you think it’s a low risk activity (or you don’t ‘feel’ ill) and you can justify an exception, then why do we even bother to have a 14 day quarantine period?

Going out in public after returning from abroad is very different to going out in public for VE Day celebrations, BLM event or a pub visit. The risk you may be infectious is higher if you have been abroad and go out compared to if you have been staying here and go out.

Why is it more dangerous?

When I came to uk last month, I drove from my area which has harsher social distance measures, via eurotunnel where I didn't leave my car, and quarantined. I was considered to be a risk. My DSis who lives in London and uses public transport and goes out, to the gym etc isn't considered a risk.

It's the whole illogic behind it which makes people break this rule. And quite frankly, the government endorsed using your own common sense to interpret the rules when they backed Cummings' trips while contagious.

RogueV · 27/08/2020 07:28

Bored of these threads now. 🙄👎

zigaziga · 27/08/2020 07:32

I don’t get why people quarantining are not allowed out for a walk / run / walking the dog anyway.
Coming back from Florida to go to a pub would be problematic. Going on a run and not speaking to anyone? Who cares?

JacobReesMogadishu · 27/08/2020 07:40

I agree, can’t see the problem with going out for an isolated run.

If I had to quarantine I’d stick to the rules apart from going out to walk the dog. I wouldn’t be within 2m of anyone as we’re rural.

PhilCornwall1 · 27/08/2020 07:53

Going out in public after returning from abroad is very different to going out in public for VE Day celebrations, BLM event or a pub visit. The risk you may be infectious is higher if you have been abroad and go out compared to if you have been staying here and go out.

Really? Back when VE Day, the protests and people packing beaches was happening, the country was meant to be riddled with the virus and everyone was bleating on about a guaranteed second wave and how all these people were selfish and idiots. Oh look, it never happened.

People have now jumped on this bandwagon in exactly the same way for exactly the same reason.

Wait till next week, all this crap will be forgotten because schools open, so the doom and gloom can be ratcheted up around that.

MoggyP · 27/08/2020 07:56

I don’t get why people quarantining are not allowed out for a walk / run / walking the dog anyway

Because quarantine, isolation and shielding mean the person is in the highest level of containment. No-one wants to stick their foot in a rut and end up in A&E when they go for a run. But it's the sort of thing that happens all the time.

It's only 14 days (unless you had to shield, in which case it was more like 14 weeks)

If everyone decided that quarantine rules were optional, the we may as well not bother, and we really are back in late Feb and early March. Cummings has a lot to answer for

zigaziga · 27/08/2020 08:32

Because quarantine, isolation and shielding mean the person is in the highest level of containment. No-one wants to stick their foot in a rut and end up in A&E when they go for a run. But it's the sort of thing that happens all the time.

Does it?? In all the walks and runs I’ve had in my life I can’t say I’ve ever stuck my foot in a rut and ended up in A&E...

MistressMounthaven · 27/08/2020 08:38

He's out for a run but the OP will not know if he has also been out to the pub as he doesn't use a shared tracker for that.

France has 5,500 new cases
www.france24.com/en/20200826-france-records-nearly-5-500-new-covid-19-cases-highest-figure-since-mid-april

Original poster
TheOrigBrave · 27/08/2020 08:41

@zigaziga

Because quarantine, isolation and shielding mean the person is in the highest level of containment. No-one wants to stick their foot in a rut and end up in A&E when they go for a run. But it's the sort of thing that happens all the time.

Does it?? In all the walks and runs I’ve had in my life I can’t say I’ve ever stuck my foot in a rut and ended up in A&E...

I have. The second time I got a stress fracture in my foot I took myself to A&E so I could get the boot ASAP. Well, it wasn't getting stuck in a rut, but an overuse injury but none the less. I guess if I did it again during the pandemic I would find another way to get the boot.
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SoManyActivities · 27/08/2020 09:19

Second wave caused by hundreds of infected quarantiners breaking their ankle on a run and spreading Covid round A and E Grin

Hobnobswantshernameback · 27/08/2020 09:53

I've said it before there is a contingent of people that are utterly wanking themselves into a frenzy of desperation at the thought of a second wave
They'll still be wanking in 2025
They've pinned their hopes on so many things to get this second wave
It'll be schools next
Then Christmas
Then Easter
Fuck off

PhilCornwall1 · 27/08/2020 10:20

@Hobnobswantshernameback

I've said it before there is a contingent of people that are utterly wanking themselves into a frenzy of desperation at the thought of a second wave They'll still be wanking in 2025 They've pinned their hopes on so many things to get this second wave It'll be schools next Then Christmas Then Easter Fuck off
Nicely put Grin
LouiseNW · 27/08/2020 10:37

“Honestly, if you want to go for a run just go for a run - it's totally different to going to the shops or the pub or to work, the risk of you spreading Covid by going for a run is absolutely tiny, especially when the risk of you actually having Covid is really small already. You won't be touching anything or be in contact with anyone so there is no risk.

I'm not encouraging recklessness or actively putting others in danger, but people seem to have lost all grasp on common sense!“

Hmmm. You kind of are.

So sorry, can’t recall her name, but a Prof. of Epidemiology was interviewed on the Today programme when the mask debate began many weeks ago. She was firmly of the opinion that there was a good case for people wearing masks in crowded outdoor spaces such as open air markets where SD wasn’t always possible. She also very specifically said that she avoided walking in the wake of runners, particularly if she was down wind of them, because the airborne capabilities of the virus were still very much unknown. Since then, there have been numerous pieces and demonstrations illustrating clearly that the virus lingers for longer and travels further than was previously thought.

Please, don’t go for a run if you are quarantining.

LouiseNW · 27/08/2020 10:39

Sorry that was in reply to somanyactivities