Control your fucking dogs

[ThunderSkies]

I’m so angry. Yet again someone can’t control their dog and my dc is even more afraid due to some massive dog leaping up at their face and mouthing at them (very young, but big dog).

If they have no recall and keep jumping up at people (and are at the mouthing people stage still) don’t fucking let them be able to get out of control.

Dog ran away from owners, out of the garden and my child ran towards the road. I’m so 😡. Why did I come away feeling like my son was to blame for running and shouting (yes it excites the dog, no I can’t stop him doing it when he’s scared and the dog is chasing him). Yes the dog was playing. No, it makes no difference to my child when the dog can jump higher than he is tall.

The people defending the dog owners who haven't secured their garden so the dog doesn't escape and chase people ( forgetting that a young dog chasing a young person into the road could be hit by the same car ) , how would they feel if I let my small horse escape from the field and chase them down a street ? Same thing, right ? A large dog to a small child is the same dimensions as a small horse to a large adult, so no problem ? Or I could open the gate next to my house and let the young bullocks out to play, they are only young, a bit excitable but mean no harm, everyone would be fine being chased by them too ? They would only be playing and they are only little in comparison to a bull !

You're not over reacting OP.

If a dog like this jumped up at an elderly/infirm person they could knock them over and could cause a broken hip.

They shouldn't be letting their dog bolt toward your son but your son is going to have to learn to live in the world too and it includes unruly but friendly dogs

Prey tell us how a child can tell between a friendly mutt and one that's about rip his arm off?

This happened to my DD, my partner kicked the dog very hard.

1000s of people every year end in hospital requiring plastic surgery because of dog attacks.

If you really must have a dog, get it trained, clean up its shit and stop treating it like a surrogate child.

MoreListeningLessChatting Thank you; that’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

I’m not defending the dog owners, nor am I suggesting the out of control dog is OP’s problem. What I am doing is pointing out that we don’t live in a perfect world with impeccable dogs and considerate owners.

We live in a world where dogs are unpredictable and so you need to combat your sons phobia rather than just wishing people would control their dogs.

You can do something about the phobia, you cannot change anyone else’s behaviour.

I’m starting to agree. Our local park and woodlands are dogshit central, you can’t step for dogshit and poopbags (why????) on the floor.
I love dogs, grew up with them, but I’m starting to think they should be banned in cities and towns (apart from service dogs), and come with a massive dog tax (£200 or so per month) to clean up the mess.
A shame for the decent dog owners out there, but so many dog owners just don’t care

@ThunderSkies

My 'd'h thinks I’m overreacting and should just smile and be nice and be friendly with the neighbours. I think they should be able to control their dog and actually be vaguely apologetic

I'm a dog owner myself (we have four) and I agree this is unacceptable.

Tell her if it happens again you'll report her out-of-control dog to the police. He could have knocked your son down, your son (or any other child) could have run into traffic, the dog could have run into traffic and been killed or caused an accident. She's irresponsible not to train her dog, or fill the gaps in her hedge.

A large dog to a small child is the same dimensions as a small horse to a large adult, so no problem ? Or I could open the gate next to my house and let the young bullocks out to play, they are only young, a bit excitable but mean no harm, everyone would be fine being chased by them too ?

frumpety Except the difference is that we don’t encounter bulls and horses on a regular basis like we do dogs.

@ThunderSkies I am so with you I have a Staffy the minute I see a loose dog she goes on the lead and would be horrified for her to knock a toddler over as she is 'over excited' am ultra cautious becos would hate to start a phobia with a child being scared of MY dog feel like I want to apolog for all twatty dog owners sorry xxxx

This happened to my DD, my partner kicked the dog very hard.

Actually a very stupid thing to do.

It can make a playful dog aggressive, and an aggressive one savage.

@heartsonacake well if I let them loose you might

This literally boils my piss.

Regardless of any ‘dislike’ or ‘phobia’ of the ‘it’s okay he just wants to have fun’ hound leaping at you, what about people with allergies?

My DS has a chronic chronic dog fur and saliva allergy. If a dog were to slobber or lick he’d likely have to have his epi pen used - and we have to scout out every beach, walk, park that we want to use. It shouldn’t be necessary as dogs should be controlled.

Yesterday, on a NO DOGS ALLOWED beach I counted 20 dogs. One of which came running up to our family who were sitting making sandcastles. ‘Oh Fluffy, do come back...I know you want to join in but you can’t’ - I gave the owner absolute shit and I don’t care.

I had another dog try and stuff it’s nose up my crotch on the walk back to the car, and laden with bags I couldn’t even shoo it off.

Drives me mad it really does. You may well love your yapping, woofing, shitting pissing creature but I don’t. I bloody hate them and their consequences. Your dog might not mean harm but it might DO harm.

If I understand OP correctly - dog escaped from the garden and was without a collar. It is entirely possible that it managed to get its head out of the collar while on a leash. Unfortunate accident, but accident nonetheless. Puppies sometimes do that until properly trained. And a puppy can't be fully trained over night. I hope that, if this was the case, this puppy will grow into a properly trained dog. Not sure its worth bad blood with neighbours.

Completely different thing if they let their dog out in the front garden that is not properly fenced without a leash. Then you'd be right to report.

Sorry @heartsonacake what I was trying to put across was the fact that a lot of dogs ( my old dog included ) are very big when looked at by a small child, a larger animal like a pony or a small bullock are equal in dimension to a fully grown adult and so those who believe that a small person shouldn't be frightened by one would be equally comfortable being chased by the other ? The fact being that the vast majority of these animals hold no malice to humans, but if you run around they get excited and run too, one is supposed to fine and yet being chased by the others would be terrifying to most of us.

Also, how many times does OP have to say she is addressing her sons phobia. For some people it is so deeply engrained it takes years of intensive therapy to overcome, and guess what, when lazy, irresponsible, dangerous dog owners allow are about and allow their dog to run up to a child twice, it’s going to set him back, and ultimately take longer to get over or manage his fear.

I’d definitely be reporting them since the dog doesn’t have a collar either, that’s a legal requirement.

@ThunderSkies

I’m so angry. Yet again someone can’t control their dog and my dc is even more afraid due to some massive dog leaping up at their face and mouthing at them (very young, but big dog).

If they have no recall and keep jumping up at people (and are at the mouthing people stage still) don’t fucking let them be able to get out of control.

Dog ran away from owners, out of the garden and my child ran towards the road. I’m so 😡. Why did I come away feeling like my son was to blame for running and shouting (yes it excites the dog, no I can’t stop him doing it when he’s scared and the dog is chasing him). Yes the dog was playing. No, it makes no difference to my child when the dog can jump higher than he is tall.

Ugh, I'm sorry, OP. I was terrified of dogs for years because of something similar happening to me as a baby. My dad went batshit at the owner after their huge dog jumped on me. Even if the dog means no harm, it can be quite intimidating for a child to have an animal jumping on them and getting up in their face.

My son did his best not to run. He cracked when the dog licked his face for the second time.

My parents' dog could stand on his hind legs and rest his front ones on my shoulders without straining. This dog is not so big this way, but is ,ore solid. My friend had an Irish wolfhound. My son is wary of her, but knows she’s gentle and will let her come close to him. My childminder had a dog and he loved her. It’s not so much the fact that it’s a dog, but the situation that he’s in with the dog.

This dog has jumped up at me before and you have to prepare yourself, because the weight of him will knock you backwards. I think that they know he jumps up at people, so they should make their garden secure and have him on a lead when he’s out of the garden (we back onto a park and they let him run around - fortunately the play area is fenced off)

It’s very easy to say don’t be scared, it dogs are big and strong and when they’re jumping, it’s understandable to be scared.

This really annoys me. My ds with asd is terrified of dogs. If they come towards him, he gets very distressed. He is non verbal and has learning difficulties so cannot be talked through his fear. We do our best to stand in front of him when they approach and ask people to call their dog. Some people apologise and get their dog quickly under control. Some people are very ignorant and are also completely incapable of controlling their animals. I had one woman who was walking five dogs all off lead. She told me that it was no use her calling one of the dogs as it was deaf! The dogs were some distance in front of her and she had absolutely no control of them.

[quote ednclouda]@ThunderSkies I am so with you I have a Staffy the minute I see a loose dog she goes on the lead and would be horrified for her to knock a toddler over as she is 'over excited' am ultra cautious becos would hate to start a phobia with a child being scared of MY dog feel like I want to apolog for all twatty dog owners sorry xxxx[/quote]

OP ignore the ‘no harm done’ posters blaming your parenting/child.

Many owners sadly can’t be bothered to look after their dogs properly because training them takes a bit of effort. Easier to just let them run riot and blame others for their ‘phobia’.

A dogs behaviour is a good sign of lazy, passive owners, always too ready to play the ‘they’re just playing, no need to get so angry, no harm done card’.

Our extended family on one side have lovely dogs - well behaved and controlled. On the other side the dogs are a nightmare and out of control.
One side could be bothered to train their dogs. The other couldn’t be arsed.

I would speak to the neighbour. Let them know if it happens again you’ll report it.

YANBU. Please report this to the council, 101 and anyone else you can think of because if I live anywhere near you and that dog jumps out on me I won't be able to leave my house again for months.

It makes me so angry.
After DD was flattened 3 times in the space of a year, I just started kicking any dogs who tried to attack her after that. Then filming the owners.
If your dog is not controllable - you put it on a lead.

You are right to be pissed off: dog should have been under control.

I have a big dog and walk her off lead as she has great recall BUT if I see horses or young children she goes straight back on as she is my responsibility and I must make sure she doesn't become a pest.

@Austereorange

This literally boils my piss.

Regardless of any ‘dislike’ or ‘phobia’ of the ‘it’s okay he just wants to have fun’ hound leaping at you, what about people with allergies?

My DS has a chronic chronic dog fur and saliva allergy. If a dog were to slobber or lick he’d likely have to have his epi pen used - and we have to scout out every beach, walk, park that we want to use. It shouldn’t be necessary as dogs should be controlled.

Yesterday, on a NO DOGS ALLOWED beach I counted 20 dogs. One of which came running up to our family who were sitting making sandcastles. ‘Oh Fluffy, do come back...I know you want to join in but you can’t’ - I gave the owner absolute shit and I don’t care.

I had another dog try and stuff it’s nose up my crotch on the walk back to the car, and laden with bags I couldn’t even shoo it off.

Drives me mad it really does. You may well love your yapping, woofing, shitting pissing creature but I don’t. I bloody hate them and their consequences. Your dog might not mean harm but it might DO harm.

As a dog owner, it's infuriating when other owners don't respect 'No Dogs' or 'Dogs on Leads' areas. It makes life harder for responsible owners, and it's hell for people who are scared of dogs, or allergic. It's not hard to find dog-friendly places, so why make life miserable for people who don't like dogs around?

Huge dog lover here. Fox red Lab. Sometimes he listens, sometimes he doesn't. Because of this, he goes on his lead when another dog/child/adult/cyclist approaches. He's beyond friendly, but it's irrelevant, get it under control. If people want to fuss him they are welcome but you can't assume everybody loves dogs. I used to be petrified of dogs until we had our first family dog when I was 15. Now I love them. But there's absolutely no excuse for not controlling your dog. I'd be horrified if my dog jumped at anyone, let alone a child.

@Newdaynewname1dog tax, why not actually. So many dog owners don't clean up after their dogs.

People shouldn't get a dog unless they are prepared to set aside adequate time and resources to train it properly, to the point where it's not a nuisance or risk to anybody.

We have had dogs walk over our picnics, snap at our children, jump up and leave muddy paw prints on clothing and so on. My friend was actually bitten by a small dog when we were out on a walk with our babies in prams, apparently this spooked the dog and it lashed out. Not a big injury but it drew a little blood. No apology from the owner