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Hello Girls..it’s me again.

Hope your all out and about enjoying this glorious Saturday.

Hope your DD gets all the support she needs and doesn't go down that road.

Glad peoples have had good days out it makes things much more bearable doing something normal.

Finally got round to dying my hair. Hope it doesn't dye my stupid hat at work😃🤣🤣

Oh I`ve got the rage now. Was talking to a friends daughter she is a teacher primary school. She said she was not able to go back because her mum who did child care was shielding. Well mum was bloody there and has been out and about to pubs restaurants since things eased up. She does not need to shield either. Daughter has a side business bringing in 2k a week so needs time for that. She still expects to be paid fully on furlough for not teaching. She also wants to go abroad with family in September and was moaning about the government saying she cannot go to certain countries. I just wanted to slap her.

justasking111
Wow bare faced cheek spouting all those lies when you know its crap!

Hello everyone. Checking in.

Nice to see all the new posters. Hope you stay :)

I've been trying to catch up with the conversation, you've all been been very chatty today.
I'm very disturbed by the accounts from the Melbourne and Aberdeen lockdowns. I don't think I could cope with a winter lockdown. My reserves of patience are running very low.

We went for a traipse around our high street today. It felt wonderfully normal. It wasn't crowded and everyone was spaced out. A significant number of shops were open, and we did our part for the economy by shopping in bricks and mortar shops. Wales, so no masks needed. The vibe was very positive!

What are the rules on the English coming to Wales? Is it ok now? Am seriously tempted to try to book a last minute break. I want to go somewhere I don't have to wear masks every time I go indoors.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

What are the rules on the English coming to Wales? Is it ok now? Am seriously tempted to try to book a last minute break. I want to go somewhere I don't have to wear masks every time I go indoors.

As far as I know, there are no restrictions on booking a break in Wales. We welcome you!

Good morning from Melbourne! I love the t-shirt slogan, particularly 'commonsense is the solution'. ISaySteadyOn - huge empathy, my DH, DS and I are really struggling with this latest tightening of restrictions. We've been locked down since March, with two weeks of vague normality in the middle. Is this some kind of record? There's something so horribly Australian about this 'Go hard!' attitude.

I just want to provide some context to what is happening here, if anyone is interested.

In Victoria it is clear that this is an aged care problem. Last time I checked, we're at just over 200 Covid deaths, of which just under 30 were not from aged care. We're about 6.5 Million strong, so if you x10 for all the numbers you get a sense of how it would look in the UK. It would be some 300 community deaths since January! Crazy. There is a belief, which is not addressed by the emergency govt, that the aged care issue arose from hospital acquired infection - not a wider community problem, but a very specific system failure in aged care. Yet the aged care deaths are being blamed on the failure of people in community to 'follow the rules' - all without any data.

During the same time that 200 have gone to Covid , we've lost some 20,000 (round numbers) across the state to other causes. Covid is 1% of deaths and community covid is 0.15% of deaths.

Despite the fact that this is overwhelmingly an aged care problem we have police stopping us traveling, only allowed out the house once a day, only one person per household allowed to go shopping, 8pm curfew, and mandatory face masks at all times outside your house. The govt have been found guilty of a branch stacking scandal - basically making up people in order to control party votes. It is straight corruption, three ministers have resigned, that is not being examined during this state of disaster.

The lock step approach with the rest of the world, just doesn't make sense here.

The three of us have all had some form of break down caused by this. But this seems to be the norm in this lock down. Round here people don't live in their houses, they live in community, and now that has been taken away. DS hasn't hung out and played with his peers for 5 months. We had a two week spell in the middle when that was possible, but he couldn't re-adjust fast enough to the normal situation to enjoy it.

Anyway, I'm actually ok, and I'm sending love and light to everyone else who is experiencing trauma, sadness or even just a bit of a low today.

Masks on public transport and some chemists ask you to wear masks when going in for prescriptions. Other than that @SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito we are cracking on as normal. You do see older people who wear masks, sanitising stations in shops. It is pretty relaxed here.

The A55 was solid this evening people going home after a lovely weekend. September is usually a lovely month weatherwise.

@justasking111

Oh I`ve got the rage now. Was talking to a friends daughter she is a teacher primary school. She said she was not able to go back because her mum who did child care was shielding. Well mum was bloody there and has been out and about to pubs restaurants since things eased up. She does not need to shield either. Daughter has a side business bringing in 2k a week so needs time for that. She still expects to be paid fully on furlough for not teaching. She also wants to go abroad with family in September and was moaning about the government saying she cannot go to certain countries. I just wanted to slap her.

FFS - Could just see how that would go down on the main board. AND for once I wouldn't blame them.

Bad enough doing it but bragging about it - despicable.

Clearly not fit to teach children as she doesn't give a fuck about them.

@Skeptile the reaction to covid in your neck of the woods baffles me. Like you in Wales we had an awful care home situation, the hospitals discharged the elderly back to homes in a panic, they then spread it through the homes. We have had another spike in one hospital in one town people are coming out of hospital with covid, this hospital really is grim at the best of times, but it has skewed our figures somewhat temporarily.

Skeptile, our care homes have had a rough time too, mainly from March when "bed blockers" were cleared out of hospitals, and PPE was being directed towards hospitals and that continued being a major problem until May/ June. Of course the shut down of large swathes of wider NHS care has also impacted the general health of older people disproportionately hard as a demographic.

The accuracy of what is a "Covid death" is questionable, especially from early when testing capacity was limited, plus the "revelation" that Public Health England were cross referencing any death against Covid testing and declaring any deaths following a positive test. So say, had on 1st July, Jeremy Corbyn had gone on a murderous rampage through 10 Downing Street, the demise of Mr Johnson, half the cabinet and numerous aides would have significantly increased the numbers of Sadly Covid Deaths due to their positive tests in the spring even though they were all well recovered

That's the thing when I consider personal risk of exposure... some cases are routinely picked up in hospital, a fair proportion of infected people are in institutions such as care homes. So when my city is picking up 0-5 cases per day across the week, generally concentrated in certain neighbourhoods or institutions, the risk of actually being exposed to the virus in my community is getting to the 1 in many thousands, probably 10 thousands.
Then there's the moralising over masks and I had a panic attack over it while food shopping yesterday, and if I'm not covering up just so that I can breathe, while I can't guarentee that I'm not contagious, it is incredibly, incredibly unlikely that I will actually murder a granny (and definitely not one in my family as one is in another country and the others are miles away and keeping a low profile )

@chocolatesweets

It is antisocial to distance from people. People think they are doing it out of kindness to vulnerable people but we will soon learn that we can't live in fear all the time. Being social is what makes us human. I do social distance but I think it's cruel.

This. To be honest I don't know how much longer I can cope with social distancing.

I was just mask shamed by a smoker. I wear a silk scarf tied securely around my nose and mouth (any mask is permitted here.) You couldn't make it up.

@skeptile, that all sounds really awful. Is there anything we can do to help? I keep thinking some international law must be being broken there.

Hello - can I join too please

I'm in Cumbria (not the busy tourist area) and life seems relatively normal here! DH and I went out yesterday - took the dogs down the (empty) beach for a good run, went to a local burger place for lunch - sat outside and enjoyed the views (no masks in sight!) and then demolished the most amazing chocolate and coffee cake.

Felt totally pre-Covid and everyone was social distancing in their groups but chatting and having a laugh - it was awesome 😊

Here's a photo of my beagle ignoring the view (and the idea of social distancing) in order to try and steal my burger 😂

Look at that face! He's lovely. And welcome, vanillaandhoney.

Thank you!

He wasn't very impressed that I wouldn't share my lunch - the vet put him on a diet last week 🙈😂

A young bird has just committed suicide via my kitchen window. It's not a good start to the day. I really don't like dead things.

Yesterday we went to the pub with my friend. The kids played on the play area, we had food, sat outside then they came back here for the kids to play more in the garden. It all felt really normal. Today I've booked a different pub for me & DS as part of the 50% scheme.

That's a lovely pic vanilla.

I'm debating a trip to wales (where it's mainly mask free). We're about an hour from the border so I'm contemplating doing my christmas shopping somewhere indoors there if the same rules still apply. To be honest if I didn't have DS I'd be doing my supermarket shopping there already.

Aww thank you @bakingcupcakes - like I say, he wasn't impressed that I didn't share my food 😂

Having left fb mostly due to corona hysterics and dementors, I thought my private Instagram was a safe haven however some dementor dick slipped through the net and posted this! she's not even a fucking nurse (actually wouldn't matter if she was would still be out of order tbh!) this was my comment at the bottom 😂 (you may need to click on it to big it up)

Brilliant, Totoro. Also, brilliant username.

@ISaySteadyOn

Brilliant, Totoro. Also, brilliant username.

Haha thank you ! I do love Totoro so it's apt

The funny thing is she never replied to the post (I was expecting a row tbh) . I unfollowed her but she still follows me and keeps liking my posts . So I wonder if she hasn't seen it (if she hasn't all her followers will!😆 ) or even better, perhaps she has seen it and it's made her see the error of her ways! I can but hope ....

I love the comment back

I'm so fed up of the chorusing of "I'm asthmatic (insert other condition of choice) and I wear a mask so quit moaning". It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't harped on about the bloody things for months in the first place!

And no, I'm not a surgeon. I had no desire to tripple my teacher's salary to work in an over heated hospital in full PPE. It was hot enough spending all day wandering the coridors and catacombs on the quest to find medical records.

A connection I made the other day, I've always loathed the snap chat selfie filter type feature, the ones that distort a human face into a freaky animal or animé character. No it's not cute, or gawguss it's disturbing. I suspect it's part of the same issue in my head. I wasn't keen on the early days of 3D style CGI animation too, but the expressions and subtle motions have improved with time.

* A connection I made the other day, I've always loathed the snap chat selfie filter type feature, the ones that distort a human face into a freaky animal or animé character. No it's not cute, or gawguss it's disturbing. I suspect it's part of the same issue in my head. I wasn't keen on the early days of 3D style CGI animation too, but the expressions and subtle motions have improved with time.*

Yes to this! Grown women with “cutesy” ears and noses- very disturbing.

I also don’t like those baby clothes that come with ears and tails. Creepy.

I honestly don't think we'll have another national lockdown. Lockdown's costs are now widely acknowledged, compliance wouldn't be unanimous and we can't afford it anyway. I think the only reason the government aren't explicitly ruling it out is that they want the threat of it on hand. Cases WILL go up again to some degree, but we're in much better position than we were before in all sorts of ways. In terms of treatment, even patients ill enough to end up in ICU have a 75% survival rate now, and they're a tiny percentage of the infected when you count asymptomatics. I just hope we hold our nerve and do a Sweden rather than a Melbourne.