How are you feeling about another lockdown?

[RosieLemonade]

I’m feeling frustrated and sad for people who work in industries which are just starting again and anxious about my DD not being able to attends school as her grandparents can’t pick her up.

Sadly resigned. We’re not too far from the edge of the tighter restrictions in the North West and looking at the way people are continuing to behave in our (holiday) town it won’t be too long before they apply to us too.
Unfortunately, lots of us will just have to factor local restrictions or even lockdowns in until a vaccine/effective treatments are rolled out and plan accordingly.

I haven't found it easy getting back out there again, but I've tried to take the attitude we keep strong and keep going. Other than liviing within the restrictions so the government have a clear picture of the risks in each type of work/social get togethers and if any need tighter restrictions to stay open or guidelines are basically working, I think the rest is out of our control. For this reason really trying to make the most of what I feel comfortable doing right now.

I think the government will be reluctant to put the whole country into lockdown again, and it'll be local lockdowns perhaps with restrictions being a bit tighter than they are now, ie I understand you can travel out of a high risk area to a lower risk, whereas I'd have thought you could only do that for essential reasons, ie work/hospital appointments.

I’ve been thinking about this recently. I think my family would cope fine with another lockdown. I have no idea of how much chance there’s going to be of another lockdown . It seems quite likely though.

I will be extremely pissed off if they try another lockdown. I would consider not completely complying.

I lost my job in the one we have just had, and very nearly my parents too without ever seeing them. I have no job prospects at the moment and we still have DD3 to see through university starting this autumn.

I dread another lockdown and feel that mentally I won't cope with it anymore.

@Topseyt

I will be extremely pissed off if they try another lockdown. I would consider not completely complying.

I lost my job in the one we have just had, and very nearly my parents too without ever seeing them. I have no job prospects at the moment and we still have DD3 to see through university starting this autumn.

I dread another lockdown and feel that mentally I won't cope with it anymore.

This.

I'm dreading another lockdown, and am most concerned about schools staying closed. At this moment in time I don't have faith the government would choose education over pubs!

My husband has used up his paid carers allowance for the year, my employer are very unlikely to offer the same degree of flexibility for another period. We are both key workers, but decided to keep our son out of school, both working full time and home schooling him.

My mental health and pain condition deteriorated massively during the first lockdown and we will really struggle to manage for another long period. If lockdown returns, we'll be sending him in as a key worker child. I'd imagine many other key worker families will feel the same.

@kittensarecute thank you. Iris always good to know that other people feel the same way and understand.

This morning my Dad was taken to hospital with breathlessness and circulatory problems. My Mum is at home but certainly not able to take care of herself for long periods as she isn't mobile herself and has only recently recovered from a serious episode of pneumonia which could have finished her off.

So as far as I am concerned further lockdown can get to fuck.

I live with my grandma who was shielding. I've worked from home since end of March and haven't left the house bar one day in April to pick up equipment from work.

I was due to return to my sport (competitive figure skater) this weekend but that got pushed back by a fortnight 24 hours before the rink was due to open.

My mum, who is also in the house, along with me, gran and my uncle who's disabled, was the only one going to the supermarket or out to work (nurse).

So I've not been able to enjoy the freedoms we have now, if we go back into lockdown I think I'd cry. I just want a tiny bit of normality back!

I would be livid about another spring-type hard lockdown and wouldn't comply fully with it, because where the fuck does it end??? If we have another lockdown, we'll inevitably have to lift it, because it isn't sustainable past a certain point, and then cases edge up again....and what then? A third one? Where does this end? It just isn't a sustainable strategy. Though I'm actually pretty certain there won't be one, partly because we're in a much better position than in March and partly because the social, economic, educational & emotional costs are just so high.

If over 50s have to shield then how will my 7 year old get to school? We have nobody to take him if we can't?

And who will look after my MIL in her 80s? Her neighbours in their 60s did her shopping for her (no family nearby). All her children are in their 50s so even if BIL or SIL were to move back to live with her then they would be shielding as well. We couldn't move back because our DC are all at school.

The numbers who died under 60 are not large enough to justify such extreme restrictions. The middle aged are the people that support the young and the old, society will fall apart if we are shielded. Plus, who will run the government, although admittedly the current lot aren't doing too good a job.

In Greater Manchester. The partial lockdown isn't the problem, it was the contemptuous way it was announced. If you happened to be on Twitter two hours before it came into force or you happened to be awake when the reports started appearing, you found out. Otherwise, you didn't. Treated like shit.

If over 50s have to shield then how will my 7 year old get to school? We have nobody to take him if we can't?

If over 50s have to shield, the schools won’t be open as they often have a high proportion of TAs, teachers, SLT, site staff and catering staff in this age bracket.

It won’t happen-the country would grind to a halt.

Why the fuck are they panicking over a fkn bug that nobody is even dying of any morr!?

Absolutely and totally mental

Just let those with underlying conditions who want to shield shield

Emmie - I’m assuming you haven’t seen the R rate figures for the different parts of the country?

@Parker231

Emmie - I’m assuming you haven’t seen the R rate figures for the different parts of the country?

The R1 rate might be going up but hospital admissions are not.

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Parker231
Emmie - I’m assuming you haven’t seen the R rate figures for the different parts of the country?

The R1 rate might be going up but hospital admissions are not.

I recall a BBC News breakdown of stats one evening several weeks ago when Hugh Pym said most people who needed to be hospitalised weren’t until about 3 weeks after they were first symptomatic. In fact, many appeared to be recovering, only to then deteriorate again several days later.

I would really struggle. My mental health has been fucked. DH works from home, doing long hours often into the evening because the WiFi is so overloaded during the day. I was furloughed at the end of April because I couldn’t do my job from home with my toddler, it just wasn’t possible. My furlough ends in a fortnight and DS will be going to my parents. We’ve already been seeing them anyway to prepare. I got to the point where I was so anxious I couldn’t eat and lost a stone. My hair fell out, my body aches all over. I’m not out of the woods but a bit better.

I would be ignoring the guidelines and seeing my parents because my mental health couldn’t take it. DS doesn’t deserve it. I had PND his first year, better but still fragile last year and utterly fucked mentally this year.

Why the fuck are they panicking over a fkn bug that nobody is even dying of any morr!?

Absolutely and totally mental

*Just let those with underlying conditions who want to shield shield
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Ah, another one who advocates locking up certain members of society,just as long as she doesn’t have to be one of them. .

And I suppose you know 100% you don’t have an underlying condition? Nope, didn’t think so.

Thing is with underlying conditions that a lot of people don’t even know they have them. I didn’t, until four years ago when I caught the flu, ended up on life support and it was discovered I have a condition called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. It’s actually a condition which is more common than people realise, and approximately one in 500000 have it, although most live normal lives and never know. The first most people know of the condition is at the autopsy.

But it is a condition which leaves you more susceptible to endocarditis (infection within the heart) and the associated damage. That was what happened to me. I ended up with a damaged heart valve, atrial Fibrilation, have had surgery, two cardiac arrests, several weeks in ICU, a lifetime on medication and the need for a heart transplant. And all because of the flu.

Everyone says “it won’t happen to me.” Until it does.

My 6yr old only child is putting a brave fave in but he is depressed. Flat. It’s so sad to see.
And i am in a cycle of repeated migraines with the stress of trying to work full time and also create some joy for ds in his summer holiday (hosting play dates and day trips).
If school doesn’t restart we will have to break the rules and have other children over. It’s not his fault he doesn’t have siblings

I'm simply not going to obey the rules if there is another lockdown.

To quote Megan Markle - life is about more than just surviving!

I obeyed it too the letter the last time, even when my mum died of cancer. I'm not doing it again.

I don't go food shopping (online delivery), don't go to pubs. I'm meeting my friends and staying 1-2m away from everyone else. My children need more than just us. I'll keep them save by assessing the evidence but I'm not keep is locked up in the house this winter. Boris can go fuck himself.

We're at a level now where the numbers are so small the R rate gets knocked right out of whack with the slightest fluctuation and has become much less relevant.

I am very mentally fragile and barely functioning now - mum has the kids for a couple of weeks so I can recharge my mental reserves a bit as I'm just coped out.

It’s not just the R number. The daily infection rate is almost at 1000 a day now, and that was a weekend figure....

In Melbourne all non essential shops and businesses have closed again.

If we go back into lockdown, then there won’t be pubs to go to, and if the weather’s shite people won’t be going outside, and there’s only so much getting together in other people’s houses people will do. It will only take on person in a friendship group to become infected for others to rethink again whether they want to mix.

I can’t imagine we will go back into lockdown, but if we do, then it will actually be easier in the winter, not for the individuals, but in terms of e.g. outdoor activities which bring people together.

I'm not going to comply with it. Speaking to my colleagues today, all of them have said they won't either.

I'm sure my parents will, they are bloody loving all the drama over the last few months.

@AlternativePerspective

It’s not just the R number. The daily infection rate is almost at 1000 a day now, and that was a weekend figure....

In Melbourne all non essential shops and businesses have closed again.

If we go back into lockdown, then there won’t be pubs to go to, and if the weather’s shite people won’t be going outside, and there’s only so much getting together in other people’s houses people will do. It will only take on person in a friendship group to become infected for others to rethink again whether they want to mix.

I can’t imagine we will go back into lockdown, but if we do, then it will actually be easier in the winter, not for the individuals, but in terms of e.g. outdoor activities which bring people together.

@AlternativePerspective easier in winter? Not with a toddler. When you can’t even take him to a museum or soft play or toddler group to let off steam.

None of this will be easier while my children cannot go to school.
Like pp said, they are flat, depressed and missing their mates, many of who don't live nearby.
It's also a crucial part of their secondary education.

If it were just the two of us, I could do this. Ideally, I'd like not to wfh indefinitely, with an increased workloaf while trying to juggle family at home too, but but it's the kids, my mother, my family, who this will impact hardest.

I'm dreading the heating costs of winter too. I've worked under an electric blanket before, but I can't expect us to all do that, but I can't afford to heat the whole house all day everyday. Nobody can.